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<0> Though I haven't tried that one
<1> I don't like reading books on the screen
<1> I prefer to print them out
<2> fxn: how you like ruby then
<3> yes, I always come back to the command line
<4> friedo: I don't think anyone does.
<3> rixxon: I like dynamic languages in general
<5> I use a mix of CUI and GUI. I prefer to have both available.
<4> Brend: Dude, it's working.
<3> rixxon: do you like Ruby?
<0> buu: What is?
<5> My favorite language is CubicZirconia.
<4> Brend: My raid!
<0> buu: Why the hell would I care about your raid
<4> Brend: =[
<6> buu: how big is it now? I forgot



<4> FINE.
<4> Botje: 2.13tb
<6> ooh
<6> *wibble*
<6> nice
<4> =]
<6> and it is for backing up your system, of course? :)
<4> Yes.. backing up my.. windows.. install..
<7> Your raid? Who did you attack? :/
<5> Brend: Have I got it right that I will have a locally cached copy of the files of interest and then will hand them back when I am done?
<6> yes. never CAN be too sure
<6> Yaakov: yes
<8> quick CGI-ish question. Can you compile perl 5.8.x with modperl 2.x with out thread support?
<6> a "working copy" in jargon :)
<6> New0rder: sure you can
<5> Brend: Your nick changed!
<8> hmmm
<7> New0rder, perhaps you should take a look at the modperl docs? IIRC it has a list of things you can and cannot do...
<4> Botje: Yaakaovo is learning svn?1
<9> Ani-_: OK.. I have AUTOLOAD working fine, but I can't quite get can() working...
<4> Botje: I thought mp2 required threads..
<9> Call the inherrited one and return if that was defined.. that's done.. but then what?
<7> LeoNerd, did you look at my can-method?
<7> It basically has all you need...
<9> Yes, well, I've tried that
<9> return \&$method;
<6> buu: it doesn't. only if you pick the threaded MPM as default
<9> Always returns a coderef, apparently...
<7> LeoNerd, yes.
<6> LeoNerd: you might want to use UNIVERSAL::can instead
<6> if that's what you're trying to do
<6> oh
<6> nm :|
<10> perl -le '*n=2; "abc"=~/(.)(.)(.)/; print $n'
<7> Why include something complelty irrelevant?
<10> would have thought that ***igning something other than a reference, or a glob to a glob would be an error
<4> bod: apparently *n=1; is the same as *n=*1
<10> kind of
<4> Hurray for perl!
<10> it sets sv magic with the literal
<6> perl -le '*n=1; $n =2; print $a'
<6> Modification of a read-only value attempted at -e line 1.
<6> haha :)
<10> *n=2006 ends up being the same
<6> well, s/a/n/, but you get the point
<9> Ani-_: do I have to get can() to check whether such a function can be called, or do I just rely on AUTOLOAD to always have an attempt and maybe fail?
<10> *n='.'
<10> odd really
<9> It seems not to be calling AUTOLOAD, and is just returning a new CODEref for some reason
<11> damn hippies
<7> LeoNerd, again look at my code.
<12> fxn: if you want to use it call import() as well is it like this import { require Module }; print "loaded" unless $@;
<12> or just imort <module name>
<12> i canuse use <module name>
<12> right
<7> LeoNerd, what did I do in my code? If the method names were the ones AUTOLOAD can handle then return a reference. Else use the inheritted can method.
<10> might be kind of useful for programmatically selecting a numbered match without eval though
<7> bod: My guess: if at the time of the ***ignment a glob exist which has the same name then the glob is copied.
<3> close_to_debian: nope, I mean if you want to use Module in case it is found you do this:
<6> close_to_debian: require Module; Module->import()



<6> and that between eval {}
<9> Ani-_: ahh yes.. :/ Tricky, because knowing if it is such a name it can AUTOLOAD is non-trivial...
<13> GumbyBRAIN: do they make einstein "back m***agers?"
<14> simcop2387: Back with the outfits. You guys look like...what do they make sense.
<10> Ani-_: ah, that's possible
<5> perl -wle '$x="blort"; *g=\$x; print $g'\
<3> close_to_debian: eval { require Module; import Module; } unless ($@) { I can ***ume Module is loaded here }
<7> eval: *FH = \"abc"; *n=FH; $n
<15> Ani-_: Return: abc
<10> perl -le '$x=42; *n="x"; print $n'
<7> eval: *{-1} = \"def"; *n=-1;$n;
<15> Ani-_: Return: def
<3> close_to_debian: if you only want to check whether is installed you don't need the import, that's what I meant
<7> eval: $x=42;*n="x";$n;
<15> Ani-_: Return: 42
<10> Yaakov: that's normal... ***igning a reference to a glob is documented to work that way
<11> yay, on our way to code C style pointers. screw references!
<13> eval: *{0}=1; *{1}=0; print **{0};
<15> simcop2387: Return: 1
<10> woop. time for work
<13> eval: *{0}=1; *{1}=0; print **0;
<15> simcop2387: Number found where operator expected at (eval 135) line 6, near "**0" (Missing operator before 0?) Error: syntax error at (eval 135) line 6, near "**0"
<13> eval: *{0}=1; *{1}=0; print **'0';
<15> simcop2387: String found where operator expected at (eval 135) line 6, near "**'0'" (Missing operator before '0'?) Error: syntax error at (eval 135) line 6, near "**'0'"
<13> hmm
<0> Yaakov, yes you are mostly correct
<13> GumbyBRAIN: do they make einstein dildos?
<14> simcop2387: Do they make sure that they breaking people's systems is ok.
<0> Yaakov, but there is no locking on the files you have checked out
<7> simcop2387, do note that Return is returning the value of the print statement.
<10> endless oportunities for obfustcation
<0> So other people may be changing their own copies too
<13> i know
<7> eval: *{0}=1;*{1}=0;**0;
<15> Ani-_: Number found where operator expected at (eval 135) line 2, near "**0" (Missing operator before 0?) Error: syntax error at (eval 135) line 2, near "**0"
<5> Brend: Right, it merges them.
<7> eval: *{0}=1;*{1}=0;**{0};
<15> Ani-_: Return:
<0> When the second person commits their changes, there may be clashes with the changes the other person made
<6> well, tries to :)
<0> And then you have to sort it out yourself
<2> fxn: i really don't know much about ruby, hence the question :)
<0> Partly for that reason it's better to have lots of small commits than a few big ones
<0> I usually commit every 2-3 hours
<13> sign up for free pizza at papajohns.com, if they make an 85 yard p*** in the superbowl you get a free pizza
<7> You should commit (IMHO) when you are done with a file/function/whatever and before making big chanes.
<6> yes
<5> perl -wle '*g=0; print $g' #fun
<13> eval: *g=0; print $g;
<15> simcop2387: ./././evalbot.plReturn: 1
<13> hmm
<5> perl -le '$x="happy"; *g=x; print $g'
<9> Ani-_: thanks for the help; I think I have it all working now. :)
<5> NOW I HAVE TO LEARN ALL THIS VERSION CONTROL CRAP
<5> THANKS BREND
<7> Brend++
<16> Hello, Yaakov.
<5> There was a reason that is was DOWN the list...
<5> Hello, Daveman.
<5> Lemon Juice, Citric Acid or Vinegar?
<1> (version control)++
<5> I use version control! Just not this geeky automation business.
<5> DAVEMAN!
<5> Lemon Juice, Citric Acid or Vinegar?
<5> At least the documentation looks decent.
<5> And I have Brend's cell phone and home numbers...
<6> hmmm
<6> much fun will ensue.
<0> Call me anytime sugar!
<5> Yeah... easy to say when I don't REALLY have your number!
<0> Gah, my resume isn't there after all


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