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<0> Someone at 84.72.2.130 pasted wget http://tinyurl.com/c5rql at http://dragon.cbi.tamucc.edu:8080/3
<1> LadyNikon: Yes.
<2> k
<3> "As explained previously, a desklet communicates with its private adesklets interpreter via redirected unbuffered streams." why should an ipc protocol require _unbuffered_ streams? what could happen when I use for example readline?
<4> boerst: is it a bidrectional protocol?
<3> yes
<4> well then. :)
<4> you need unbuffering for select to work right :)
<3> so for example im waiting for a line... how do I read the complete line unbuffered as soon as it arrives?
<3> I just dont understand how to write program like that :)
<5> any parse::recdescent clue around? I'm having odd problems with redefining skip as [ \t]+_
<4> what a weird thing to redefine skip as
<5> why's that?
<4> I don't know :)
<5> well, I need to care about newlines
<6> hi all



<4> it was the underline I thought was weird
<5> oh, that's a typo
<6> i could not install perl for xp ,
<5> however, when I redefine skip, it just stops matching anything at all
<6> i downloaded NT version but it said wrong OS
<4> that's a .msi you got?
<5> oh, it should be [ \t]*, not +
<6> integral , i think soo
<6> so*
<7> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I have a CSV generated via a perl script, and somehow one of the fields has got encoded as binary (at least that's what KATE detects it as).. any way to get this back to ascii (plaintext)?
<4> LinuxMafia: http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePerl/Windows/5.8/ActivePerl-5.8.7.815-MSWin32-x86-211909.msi
<8> integral's url is at http://xrl.us/js29
<4> is that what you've got?
<6> integral, no
<6> integral, the exe one
<9> hi
<4> LinuxMafia: I don't see any exe of activeperl.
<4> I only see a .zip and a .msi. I see some Windows Install 2.0+ stuff, but that's not activeperl.
<4> you just click on "MSI" under "Windows" :)
<6> integral, INSMSIW.exe
<4> LinuxMafia: well that's not active perl.
<9> is there a function like toupper()
<9> ?
<4> LinuxMafia: all the activeperl stuff is the links in the bar on the left
<6> integral, how can i install msi
<4> gigabytes: up
<4> LinuxMafia: you should already have the microsoft installer on xp, just double click the .msi
<9> integral, the function name is up() ?
<4> gigabytes: sorry, I mean uc
<9> ok
<6> oh thanks alot integral
<9> thanks integral
<10> fg
<11> $<=$>=65534; says operation not permitted. the script is running as r00t under a freebsd 6.0 jail. any pointers what i could have missed? :/
<10> 65534 is nobody?
<11> right
<12> use the POSIX::setuid calls
<12> and you may have to switch the order of ***ignment
<13> I was about to say that.. :)
<12> :p
<11> mh.. that's strange.. anyway it works. thanks Botje ;)
<14> perlbot, be esr
<15> <esr> CAN I BORROW SOME OF UR BRAINPOWER PLZ? I DONT WANNA LERN PEARL!@!
<16> GumbyBRAIN: brainpowder
<17> Prof_Vince: hey, you're experienced in writing but not quite, as bad as the lense people see through messy is going to avoid installing x.
<18> if i append to a file that does not exist, does the file get created?
<12> yes
<5> hrm, does m// match everything or nothing?
<19> dvtoo, perlop says: If the PATTERN evaluates to the empty string, the last successfully matched regular expression is used instead.
<5> ok, thanks. I was looking for that, but it's a hard thing to search for
<19> dvtoo, yeah, I knew of it but it still took me awhile to track it down :)
<5> I did find something that indicated that m// was special, and m/()/ was the work around
<20> the question is why the heck are you trying to do matches with an empty pattern if you aren't trying to use that side effect
<21> because....
<22> .win 12
<22> doh
<23> There was a 12 bit version of windows? Hnh. Never knew that.
<24> what was that called?
<23> skrye, I wasn't serious I was making fun of BinGOs mischannel.



<24> lol, ok, i was google a well ..
<24> s/google/googling
<22> :(
<23> Though there really was a 12 bit microcomputer back in the day. Some RSTS machine maybe, I forget. It didn't do very well.
<23> Er. minicomputer rather, not micro.
<25> PDP8s were 12 bit
<26> tybalt89 : major advancement over the ol' 4 bit stuff eh ? ;)
<25> 8 bit
<12> I think i'm going to make a 42-bit system
<12> i'll make a killing selling to HHGG geeks
<26> somewhere around here, I have some old 4bit stuff, I am not sure if it was microprocessors or microcontrollers
<12> skrye: what good would that do :p
<25> KoffeeBeanz: the intel 4004 was a 4 bit system/chip
<24> I have absolutely no idea :P
<27> hi
<26> I have a chip tube with some in it, I remember they are 4bit, but not what they are, I woudl have to go find them
<13> Is there a way I can get "user overload" to provide autogenerated methods for an object, if that object fails to define one..?
<13> E.g. $obj->somemethod , then I would generate a somemethod for it
<12> AUTOLOAD?
<13> Oh.. or that... How's that work?
<12> if perl can't find a method it calls AUTOLOAD
<12> but how it works *EXACTLY*, i dunno
<22> what would the autogenerated methods do ?
<12> see perlsub?
<13> BinGOs: set or return a hash key in $self of the same name
<13> Though only certain names are valid. I know in advance what names are
<22> Cl***::Accessor is it ?
<13> Maybe.. but my cl*** does a lot more than just that
<22> something of that ilk i think.
<28> it does more than what?
<27> i've a problem with Net::IRC, the dcc send files doesn't work :\ (with the method new_get( ) ), somebody has already coded with this module ?
<1> Hmm... Komodo for OS X...
<1> Hmm...
<12> LeoNerd: one of the Cl***::Accessor mutants then
<20> using the module doesn't exactly prevent you from doing more
<29> someone know how I can clear my tk widget : text ?
<28> an according to the blog entry of today regarding the issue with Sophos, ActivePerl for OSX is coming
<1> If the performance is decent, I might buy it. Worth a try.
<12> istr there being one that can validate parameters
<4> fxn: hmm, when I looked earlier there was an option to download it from activestate on activestate's activeperl download page
<13> Hrm.... Not 100% sure I like the look of it though. Having to explicitly call the mk_accessors functio
<13> n
<29> someone know how I can clear my tk widget : text ?
<25> Saitan: $tk->delete('1.0' => 'end');
<30> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=526753 <--- annoying
<29> ok thanks =)
<31> Deimos_: Net::IRC is old and not very good.. take a look at IRC::Bot instead..
<4> Bot::BasicBot and POE::Component::IRC surely?
<4> perlbot Net::IRC
<22> does that do dcc though.
<28> integral: oh right! "NEW: Now on Mac OS X"
<4> also on hpsux I think I saw
<11> mh.. is there something like index() which isnt case sensitive?
<22> i make no guarantees about POE::Component::IRC's dcc support as i haven't used it yet.
<31> noganex: use lc first?
<1> The default template or perl in komodo:
<28> I am gonna try to switch to pxperl for Windows, I am tired of checking for ppm packages and versions
<1> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
<1> use strict;
<1> Not bad. :)
<11> argh
<20> integral: that also use PCI :)
<4> ah
<20> integral: and it's written by Benjamin Smith!
<31> noganex: always a good plan.. yes. :)
<22> the Net::IRC is fubar as well :(
<4> Khisanth: ?!
<4> no, Benjamin *W* Smith. The W is very important.
<22> 'The W' >:)
<26> should we vote for him because of that ?
<22> *sigh* nevermind


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