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<0> War and Peace was the sort of literary misadventure you undertake when really, really, really ****ing drunk.
<1> freakman, that's a pretty good question - i don't know
<2> integral: I figured if you have to keep notes on a book, it's probably not worth reading.
<3> x80: I think that it's called "Tk".
<4> tried that too....must be a problem with cpan grr
<4> keeps giving me this crap: LWP failed with code[404] message[File '01mailrc.txt.gz' not found]
<3> Yes, it does have its problems. Try adding another mirror address to it.
<5> sounds like the mirror is hosed
<1> freakman, i mean the obvious is to match it and then grab pos and then set pos for the s///
<1> but i've never done that;)
<6> so i've been reading up on scope and lexicals, and have a better understanding of them now, but now i have a question...
<7> I must have been ****ing drunk for a whole freaking *MONTH*
<7> buu: It's actually a damn good book.
<2> integral: Really?
<7> All the well known russian ones are
<2> How so?



<0> Being all blotted. Being proposed to save you from the window. Then i make madam mina, and again tried to sleep, but with intention. It were as fond of dancing was a terrace, and from a fearful.
<8> freakman: you could add it to the regex
<7> it's a great epic sweeping from society through wars etc
<2> csb: Did you read "coping with scoping" ?
<0> ^^^ I mean, god.
<7> ew73: is that a summary? :-P
<0> integral: No, that's from my hal!
<9> How would I make a perl script execute a file in linux called "run.sh"?
<8> s/(foo.*)foo/\1bar/
<7> Jrex-Linux: system("run.sh");
<9> ty!
<10> Kulrak: what do you mean?
<2> Kulrak: Back references in the rhs of a s/// op are deprecated.
<1> :( - that ****s
<6> if i use strict, and have a statement like "if (this) {my $Val = "yes"}... how do i get that to work in the main part of the script in another statement like "if ($Val = "yes") {do this}
<1> $1 then
<8> oh well
<6> i ***ume use a global of some sort
<3> csb: Delcare it unconditionally, set its value conditionally.
<2> csb: You have to declare it in the larges scope you need it in.
<6> buu: yes i read that a week or so ago, although i have to admit i should read it again now that i have a better understanding
<11> my $val; if (..) { my $val = "yes" } ... if ( $val eq "yes" ) { ... }
<1> the rhs of a s is not a regex so how could backrefs ever work there?
<6> buu: that's what i though. just at the begining. so that's not bad form?
<11> er
<11> my $val; if (..) { $val = "yes" } ... if ( $val eq "yes" ) { ... }
<3> jdv79: They work outside of a m//. Also, it's a special case.
<3> if you mean $foo, vs \foo
<2> csb: Well, it's bad form to do it where not needed. Generally it's good practice to scope them as tightly as possible. Sometimes this means making them file scoped or global scoped.
<6> that's what i thought i should do... i just didn't know if that was bad form. that's good though, so this stuff is starting to make sense to me
<6> buu: and "file scoped" is just putting a "my $val;" at the begining of your script
<3> csb: Unless that's within a package, yes
<2> b0at: Not so.
<3> consarn it
<2> csb: Yes, every time perl parses a file via do, use, require and similar, it creates an implicit lexical scope.
<2> eval: use strict; package x; my $foo; package y; $foo=52; package main; $foo
<12> buu: Return: 52
<10> hm
<2> Note that packages do not create lexical scopes.
<10> is there a boolean operator for "and not"?
<1> i was under the impression that backreferences are for inside the same regex and $1, $2, etc were the same data just outside of that regex
<2> jdv79: They are. That's why it's bac practice.
<2> s/bac/bad/
<2> jdv79: However \1 and friends were hacked up to actually work outside it, for some unknown reason.
<2> freakman: 'and not' =]
<1> weird that you say it actually worked that way though
<10> buu: I am so dumb.
<13> buu: sed lovers?
<14> jdv79: backward compatibility for backward people.
<2> Supaplex: Probably.
<13> beth++ spot on :)
<2> eval: $_="beth"; /(\w+)/; "\1"
<12> buu: Return:
<2> Hrm..
<2> eval: $_="beth"; /(\w+)/; "$1"
<12> buu: Return: beth
<2> eval: $_="beth"; s/(\w+)/\1_omg/; $_
<12> buu: Return: beth_omg
<2> Interesting.
<14> the rhs of a s/// has special almost-regex properties
<14> specifically, that one.



<1> thanks for the lesson
<2> beth: Isn't my bot nifty?
<14> it is!
<2> Yay!
<14> is it reasonably break-proof?
<2> Yeah.
<14> so then you won't mind if I do this...
<2> Not at all.
<2> It hasn't even been banned in like a month.
<3> heh
<1> buu++
<14> eval: while(1){ print "buu is a dork"}
<2> b0at: I'M DOING GOOD.
<1> that's just cause somni went missing though
<3> hehe
<2> beth: I can't figure out how to get output when the thing terminates
<2> Is there a signal I can send that flushes buffers some how?
<3> Put a sign on the door that says "flush when buffers are full"
<2> =[
<3> "Welcome to our erl. Note that there is no 'P' in it."
<2> Cute.
<13> hehe
<15> Ooo... the origin of the Lone Ranger.
<15> Now I know where he got his name.
<1> a w e s o m e
<8> Yaakov: a writer?
<15> Kulrak: In the Lone Ranger universe.
<15> Ooo... he is lecturing to a boy that he has to go to college.
<15> While he brings law and order to the west.
<15> College is preperation for manhood!
<7> I wish rubric was even more general.
<7> I can't attach notes to people. I can write general entries and tag then like with "person:YAAKOV", or I can make up urls like "person:YAAKOV", but tags lack all that lovely computer processable semantic information.
<7> Some kind of cross between tagging and actual records/cards
<9> :( I can't get this script to do anything: http://pastebin.com/531181
<16> The paste 531181 has been moved to http://erxz.com/pb/513
<15> integral: Once you put that YAAKOV thing on there, you are pretty much done.
<7> HyperCard with tagging and wiking and RDF and full-text searching
<7> Yaakov: but the computer doesn't know it's a person. I can't say: list all people plz.
<17> is 0x8e6 in hex equal to the decimal 2278 ?
<15> integral: I am using VoodooPad Lite, so far I like it.
<7> eval: hex "8e6"
<12> integral: Return: 2278
<15> integral: Because it isn't a lifestyle.
<17> thanks
<17> perlbot math 0x8e6
<18> 2278
<17> hah, that is easy. I was playing with sprintf and its formats. thanks
<15> I hate applications that are actually the crystalization of someone else
<15> 's neurosis.
<7> I currently keep my journals in TextEdit rtf files, but once I denastified tiddlywiki a bit it's okayish
<15> integral: tiddlywiki is WAY too crufty for me.
<15> integral: Try VoodooPad Lite!
<1> what about word press?/
<15> integral: It does RTF.
<9> Any clue at all? http://erxz.com/pb/513 does nothing when I run it, as far as I can tell
<7> jdv79: tried that. I have no idea how to theme the damn thing.
<15> integral: It is basically a desktop wiki with graphics. Nice and simple.
<7> it also stick links like "site admin" on the public interface
<7> oooh!
<7> I wonder if I can integrate it with the mythical semantic database thingie I want to write
<2> Jrex-Linux: Add debugging statements.
<9> Um....
<9> I know nothing about perl at all
<1> Jrex-Linux, ask wherever you got that thing
<9> I didn't even make hat script
<9> ok
<15> Probably not. It isn't open source, but there are some wiki implementations for OS X desktop that are.
<7> I'm a bit nervous of desktop things since I only have one OS X box.
<7> and at home my workstation there has a way nicer screen
<15> I use my notebook as the core of my computing.
<1> not your brain?!
<1> you could lose your notebook


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