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<0> I'm not about to get beat in randomness.
<1> on a fish scale from zero to ford that's a horse of a different color
<2> tummy daffodils from outer jupiter moons.
<1> fluter flutter little bat. How I wonder what you're at.
<0> not bad for a novices.
<1> fulflling the random requirements with small amounts of lead and asbestos.
<0> mmm lead and asbestos for the win.
<0> oh, the misaptly titled form_helpers of RoR are failing to help.
<3> Well, it's lucky you joined the #perl channel then
<0> Yes, it is.
<3> :-)
<0> Otherwise I would miss the people who came in expecting this channel to be on-topic
<0> etc.
<0> Now, lets forget about all of this and talk about, Jesus.
<0> Thats not an option.



<1> jesus is just all right with me, jesus is just all right oh yea!
<3> I think he died
<1> I don't care what they may say, I don't care what they may do.
<0> I bet christianity would be much more successfull if Jesus looked as awesome as the hulk, rather than just looking like a lame whimpy white guy.
<3> He probably looked more middle-eastern than white
<4> considering Jesus was dark-skinned, picturing him as a white guy seems mistaken
<0> Dude, jesus was the first white man ever.
<0> He started it.
<3> haha
<3> And nobody even remembers his real name
<4> His full name is Jesus *H* Christ. :)
<3> haha
<0> I wonder if he had a nickname.
<3> stickman
<4> "walks-on-water"
<3> before or after turning it into wine?
<3> and removing all the fish
<4> his nickname was "hey zeus"
<4> you have to live in a border town to get that. :)
<0> blondie: death-metal?
<3> My town has a border
<3> I think my garden has one too :-)
<4> but does it have Borders?
<3> yes - it's surrounded with them
<3> on all sides
<4> surrounded!
<2> Ecarroll: no
<3> Alamo
<4> car rentals?
<3> Remember the....... oh
<0> blondie: go download Tristania, if you can do any one of those songs -- I'll give you 5095 Evan points.
<3> Points make prizes
<3> Points make driving licenses invalid
<3> It's lucky people join #perl - it would fall apart otherwise
<5> There aren't any people here.
<5> GumbyBRAIN: people
<6> Egah - you people are ****wits who need to have , between args, but $_ is not a shabaz.
<0> Tristania, according to scientific proof magazine is the best band ever.
<3> The best band we've never heard of
<4> o/~ with points on her own, sitting way up high.... way up firm and high... o/~
<0> cursor: Thats a fault of yours.
<0> go download Tristania and fix it.
<3> perl -e 'print qq^9(A)gzk\b1,\\\^^^qq^rM7@\tZ<i]_4T^'
<7> can you use redo in a do block?
<3> no
<0> you can while(1) and break though.
<7> that'll work
<0> See, god damn i'm good.
<7> that's what i am currently doing, but i thought a do block would be more readable.
<3> At least you didn't suggest a goto :-)
<8> goto!
<9> |ryan|: you can use a bare block and redo
<10> ok, why do I get "Global symbol "$key" requires explicit package name" when trying to use "foreach $key (%foo)" when I "use strict" ?
<8> foreach my $key (%foo)
<10> scrottie: that's what I've had to do to get around it, just trying to understand why.
<3> It declares $key
<8> rorx: declaring variables is a *feature*, not a work-around



<9> because you can't just use global variables
<8> rorx: when you declare them, you set their scope, which is very important.
<9> at least not in the presence of strict 'vars'
<7> heh
<7> goto
<7> ick.
<8> yes. goto.
<8> goto++
<10> right, I figured the the scope was implicitly local at that level.
<3> my $key = 'mouse';
<8> YAPC.
<8> I want to go, but, well, if it's like hanging out on an IRC channel, I don't want to go.
<3> It'll be a bunch of people standing around talking about anything except Perl
<8> Crap.
<3> Perhaps some of them will join #perl and talk some more non-perl
<11> or sitting around, chatting on laptops
<3> and a tail
<11> a penguin?
<3> Do penguins have claws?
<8> DEFCON usually has kung fu by the pool, naked people jugling fire, people being arrested on stage, loud parties that go till dawn and then serve pancakes... that makes it moderately enjoyable considering I know very few people there.
<11> ever tried installing gentoo? you bet they do
<12> scrottie: not sure about the new location this year...
<3> 100% Gentoo here
<8> mobius: about DEFCON? yeah... since they used to just take over Alexa Park, it was kinda anything goes
<12> scrottie: there won't be the "communal" atmosphere in a hotel
<3> mobius: That depends upon the room you end up in
<12> but also fewer random people walking into our room (one of them w/ projectors)
<13> is there anyway to fix a fubared cpan?
<13> (basically many modules are installed yet it complains they arent installed(it even gives the righ path to the right file...)
<3> DeathWo1f: That will depend upon the nature and extent of the fubar
<13> so i dont know what i can do to fix it
<13> (perl 5.8.8)
<8> DeathWolf: what version of Perl were they installed for? 5.6?
<8> what path are they at?
<13> it always was 5.8.8
<3> Are they installed in a previous Perl version?
<13> it's supposedly a fresh install...
<8> there's no help for you if you're using a package manager instead of the CPAN shell
<13> i'm not, i installed from the 5.8.8 package
<3> reinstalling CPAN might help
<13> and then i only used cpan
<0> oh man pdf so ****ty to search through
<13> so i try like "install Bundle::CPAN" which it's recommending me
<13> and it goes: Undefined subroutine &Digest::base::new called at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN.pm line 4343.
<8> Is YAPC one of those cons where the well-connected and well-known have a great time hanging out with each other while the novices have nothing to do but go to talks trying to get a glimpse of their heros?
<13> of course digest::bas is installed
<13> +e
<8> Will I be invited to cool parties?
<3> A man with a broken watch knows the correct time twice every day
<8> DeathWolf: case sensitive. Digest::Base... and even then, that doesn't look right
<3> Unless it's a 1980s digital watch
<13> i'm starting to wonder if i got on a fubared mirror
<8> DeathWolf: FIX THE SIMPLE PROBLEMS FIRST...
<3> Where did you get your Perl from
<3> did it come with the distro, or is it a manual install?
<8> DeathWolf: did you get the caps right? are you aware that they have to be right? what's the name of the module you installed?
<13> it came from freebsd's ports
<8> what's the name of the module?
<3> scrottie: Your shift key is broken
<8> i'm getting bored waiting for answers from you
<13> i only did "install Bundle::CPAN"
<13> i didnt do anything else
<8> cursor: correct
<13> (after starting cpan for the first time after perl installed)
<8> cursor: Toughbook CF-28. You try typing on one of these rubber keyboards.
<3> :-)
<4> use of useless cat!
<8> oh, huh, there is a Digest::base
<3> use Cat;
<8> which module are you trying to use that complains that Digest::best isn't installed?
<13> all


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