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<0> so hey what is a god way to learn perl?
<0> I have a windows xp desktop
<1> tilrman: it's not exactly efficient either ;)
<1> I always forget about IO::All. It's sort of cool
<2> I know that we can do: @filedata = (<INFILE>); but not $filedata = (<INFILE>);
<3> get cygwin, shemale_magic
<2> the latter only gets first line
<4> well, i defined effciency a little bit
<5> Wyleyrabbit: that's why they're setting $/ to undef
<2> StoneToad, ahhhh
<5> if %/ is undef, "one line" is the same as the whole file
<5> normaly it's "\n"
<6> Wyleyrabbit: check perldoc perlvar
<7> perlvar - Perl predefined variables. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perlvar'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlvar.html
<5> (actualy I think that's wrong, it's something weird to deal with \r\n stuff... but you can pretend it's just \n ^_^)
<3> shemale_magic, you should try linux though, it's free, and it's easy to encrypt you r gigs of porn!



<5> using local makes it so you dont have to worry about what it was origionaly, it automaticly reverts when you leave the block
<3> eval: $/
<7> bluebeard: Return:
<2> on winxp, best way to encrypt yer porn is Truecrypt!
<3> eval: print $/
<7> bluebeard: Return: 1
<3> strange.
<5> eval: print "[$/]";
<7> StoneToad: [ ]Return: 1
<0> encrypt porn?
<1> bluebeard: the bot sanitizes its output so that it doesn't screw up IRC
<0> heh
<3> eval: print hex($/)
<7> bluebeard: 0Return: 1
<5> eval: print ord($/);
<7> StoneToad: 10 Return: 1
<1> eval: [map ord split //, $/]
<7> hobbs: Error: Not enough arguments for map at (eval 122) line 1, near "$/]"
<3> eval: print chr($/)
<7> bluebeard: Return: 1
<1> eval: [map ord, split //, $/]
<7> hobbs: Return: [10]
<0> its a mother ****er to get tomcat n apache n redaht linux working together when you ignore redahts packager rpm and install mysql 5.0
<1> okay, yeah, just a \n. Of course :)
<0> let em tell ya
<0> there has to be an easier way to do things than using java
<0> <--hence interest in perl mod perl etc etc
<5> ah so it's just perl6 that makes it into something weird like (\r\n?|\n\r?) then?
<6> StoneToad: no, it depends on the platform
<3> shemale_magic, no, it's really now.
<3> s/now/not/
<5> the person who started the whole line ending thing should be shot
<1> StoneToad: it was probably a tty maker
<3> indeed.
<5> that's ok, bullets are cheap :D
<6> Neither \r or \n are really correct on their own though .. \r would set you back to position 0 of the current line and \n would move you down a line. So the only one that actually makes sense is the mac-cl***ic
<3> now why microsoft just doesn't switch over to \n is beond me.
<4> i was under the biased impression that dos would use \012\015 as newline so that files could go straight to the printer
<6> Or is it DOS that uses \r\n?
<5> dos uses \r\n
<8> Woosta: Stop thinking like a type writer
<8> =)
<9> Hi all, i use the exists command, i would like to know what its return if the key dont exist? 0 or false
<5> part of the problem is that \r and \n have diff hex codes on diff boxes
<4> dos is \r\n . . . but mac may be (have been) \n\r
<3> tilrman, it was before that, it was back in the days of the 50s computers.
<6> r3m: perl doesn't have a 'false' as such
<3> from what I read.
<5> so you have tot use \012 and \015 if you want to be really portable
<5> r3m: 0 is false
<3> eval: FALSE
<7> bluebeard: Return: FALSE
<3> hmm
<1> \x0d and \x0a are nicer to read
<6> eval: %x=(); print exists $x{foo}
<7> Woosta: Return: 1
<5> hobbs: right, well, it's just a different way of saying the same thing :)
<6> eval: %x=(); print ord( exists $x{foo} )
<7> Woosta: 0Return: 1
<6> heh .. so it's returning a null byte .. :)
<1> eval: ord(undef)



<7> hobbs: Return: 0
<9> so if (exists($usagerident{usager}) == 0) { ... }
<5> eval: print ord("")
<7> StoneToad: 0Return: 1
<5> yea, so the same as ""
<1> r3m: no, if (!exists ...) or unless (exists ...)
<9> ok thanks hobbs
<6> r3m: no need to compare it to anything .. if (!exists(... )) { ... }
<5> r3m: perl is smart enought to do what you mean, most of the time :)
<4> eval: paint_my_house();
<7> tilrman: Error: Undefined subroutine &main::paint_my_house called at (eval 122) line 1.
<9> i can use !index too with index
<9> ?
<1> r3m: no, index is an odd one; it returns -1 on no match
<9> ok
<1> so use == -1 or != -1
<9> ok thanks ;)
<5> it's cause if it matches the first place in the string, it's the 0th position
<1> right
<1> it still could have used undef, but it would have been annoying ;)
<5> and "0 but true"?
<1> or "0e0" for true zero and "0" for no match
<5> you've been using DBI I see :)
<1> but, like I said, annoying ;)
<1> StoneToad: yeah, DBI is part of my life.
<10> hmm i want to match a Carriage return. I am do a $x = <STDIN>; if ( $x =~ /\r/) { print "sucess";}
<10> it does not match.
<11> um, has anyone ever had a Microsoft Intellimouse make a loud popping sound (like a Pillsbury biscuit carton opening up), and then a squeaking liquid noise, like soda squirting out of a small hole?
<11> wireless intellimouse
<12> spo0nman: looks like you didn't enter a carriage return
<10> mauke: It says "Enter" on the keyboard. I thought it was a carriage return.
<10> mauke: or is it just \n?
<12> just \n
<10> mauke: hmm ... thanks.
<3> it's sort of funny that comedy central did something to prevent people from leeching their videos for free, but since they're making it windows XP only, I have to leech it.
<11> you shouldn't be using hacker operating systems!
<11> thief!
<3> http://secunia.com/advisories/11433/
<3> holy ****, that'd be a very skillful attack if anyone accomplished that.
<1> that's a dumb design
<1> I see the potential usefulness of that feature, but really, take your options from a whitelist or something :)
<3> ya
<3> still, VERY skillful attack
<3> unless you're just destroying data, then you just set it to output to /dev/hda
<3> well, then they'd need to be playing stuff in root. which is stupid.
<1> or as a member of 'disk', which the default user is on a lot of consumerish systems
<3> really?
<3> like lindows?
<3> hehe
<3> that name makes me sad
<1> hmm, nevermind. I'm in cdrom and floppy, but not disk.
<3> I'm in users.
<1> bluebeard: that name has been dead for a while
<3> really?
<3> copyright issues?
<3> I googled it and get linspire.
<1> bluebeard: not exactly. Microsoft sued, realized they had no chance to win, and settled -- they essentially bought the name out
<3> hahaha
<1> bluebeard: MS gave Robertson's company 24 million dollars, and they changed their name to Linspire. Which is still a bad name ;)
<3> I just loled
<3> wow, microsoft accidentaly funded the move away from windows as a desktop operating system.
<13> you poor deluded fool.
<14> deluded.
<1> diluted.
<14> geneology is a lie.
<1> genealogy
<15> Sorry.
<3> who's deluded?
<14> you's deluded.
<3> why?
<14> integral said.
<16> SON OF A BITCH
<16> These people are mentally retarded


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