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<0> b_jonas: ya, basically I want to maintain the population of the 5 child process and whichever one died the parent will notice and fork a new one to replace it, the thing I predict now is what if I want to exit the parent to damonize it ? then all 5 will be zombie processes ? I do have to daemonize it since it should run as a daemnon
<1> there is a module for managing a process pool, and another for doing pre-fork serving
<2> hey all.. I have an object question.. if someone can help me out..
<3> if you exit the parent, they won't be daemon processes I think, but then how would you refork if one of them dies?
<1> brettnem: sorry, I can't because my mind reading skills are rusty.
<1> heng: daemonise, then fork the children.
<2> I'm using berkeley DB for dictionary data.. the value of one of my queries returns an object.. how do I tell perl that the return value IS an object (I'm used to calling new)
<1> but plenty of books like APUE discuss this stuff.
<4> brettnem: What? You don't need to tell perl if something is an object
<4> brettnem: It already knows
<1> brettnem: umm, berkeley DB doesn't store perl objects... Maybe you want to use Storable to serialise your objects.
<2> integral: Can't locate object method "get_key" via package "Cache::Object=HASH(0x8165e94)" (perhaps you forgot to load "Cache::Object=HASH(0x8165e94)"?) at ./dump.pl line 18.
<5> brettnem: that's not an object, that's a string
<1> brettnem: you've stored a stringified reference, "Cache::Object=HASH(0x8165e94)".
<2> I'm so confused... heh
<5> brettnem: it's just a string



<6> brettnem: you're using DB_File ?
<5> it doesn't mean anything
<1> laughing in the face of the unknown is best not done.
<1> BerkeleyDB > DB_File
<2> I'm using Cache::BerkeleyDB.. and I want to use the regular berkeleyDB routines to get at the Data
<1> why?
<2> because I want to write a C routine to access the data directly
<7> hallowed are the buu
<2> yeah for the key value pair, it's returning the following at the value: Cache::Object=HASH(0x8165e94)
<1> if you want to access the data you'll need to store it in a format that C can cope with...
<1> and is useful. So a stringified reference is not useful.
<2> it's berkeley DB.. C can work with that.
<7> mmm... stringification
<8> simcop2387: Bleeding edge Perl contains heisenbugs. It can't be helped.
<1> no, you're trying to store a perl *object*, brettnem
<9> dngor: heh
<1> C cannae cope with _that_.
<9> perlbot calc 2160*16/9
<10> 3840
<2> oh.. I see.
<2> so that value "Cache::Object" is a perl object.
<9> i want a 40" lcd capable of doing 3840x2160
<1> no, it's a string. you're not even saving the object.
<2> Cache::Object=HASH(0x8165e94) is a string?
<1> yes.
<11> (looks like a hash to me)
<2> why don't I see it? Why does it return that when I print it?
<1> you see that when you print it because it is a string containing that.
<9> jidar: HASH(...) is a string, it WAS a reference, but isn't now
<11> simcop2387: I was poking fun :P
<1> it *is* possible to have a string that looks the same as a stringifed hash you know.
<2> hmm do I just dereference it?
<1> eval: print {}; return "HASH(0x00405633)"
<12> integral: HASH(0x842ed38)Return: HASH(0x00405633)
<4> brettnem: You don't
<5> brettnem: you can't dereference strings
<4> brettnem: Once it is a string you don't get access to it any more.
<1> brettnem: you can't, it isn't a reference, it's a string that looks like a reference that's been stringified
<1> and if you're storing it in a DB, the original object will have been destroyed...
<2> ok.. so I can't do anything with that perl object then?
<1> it is *NOT* a perl oibject!
<5> brettnem: it isn't a perl object
<1> you're storing the data in the DB wrong!
<5> brettnem: it's just a string
<2> haha
<2> Cache::BerkeleyDB is writing the data
<9> GumbyBRAIN: ***
<9> BinGOs: FIX HIM
<7> gumbybrain what do you eat for breakfast?
<13> HALO
<1> brettnem: wrongly it seems.
<6> BinGOs: feed it the collected works of buu!
<7> :O
<2> DOH
<2> hmm.. anyone use Cache::Memcached?
<1> brettnem: perhaps it expects the user to perform necessary serialisation.
<4> Botje: Actually that would be kind of entertaining..
<1> The ELEPHANT cabbage is sitting on the GREEN.
<6> had too many leaves, eh?
<1> this is so the wrong time to be reading gcc source



<4> Elly: ZOMG
<3> integral: reading the gcc source? it's always the wrong time for that I think
<13> buu: Shoggoth on the Roof is hilarious.
<9> cube it bitch
<14> You really know how to take the fun out of a ****ing chest wound.
<9> @find () () (bitch)
<14> it uses a weird python make replacement so fixing it is a bitch | well xmllint doesn't bitch | HDPE is a bitch | coderman, contention due do soft metrics is a bitch | that learning curve is a bitch | putting up drywall is a bitch | rhes3 is a bitch | so job allocation is a bitch | czthwrk is a bitch | haha and this chick is a bitch | It isn't cable knitting, which is a bitch | Life is a bitch
<15> GumbyBRAIN: beloved Andi
<9> Yaakov: i broke him last night
<9> Yaakov: i gave him a couple md5sums
<16> oh noes
<15> GumbyBRAIN: WAKE UP
<9> Yaakov: and BinGOs is being a lazy bastard
<13> GumbyBRAIN is borked!
<9> @find (Gumbybrain) () ()
<14> Gumbybrain is a source tree and stupid things like fetches rss feeds | Gumbybrain are you getting at o.o? | Gumbybrain is a jive-*** mother****er | Gumbybrain are you rindolf | Gumbybrain is a little excited, she is now learning to master the most reasonable way | Gumbybrain is a woman for chancellor *rolls eyes | Gumbybrain is a pimp | Gumbybrain is a ground | Gumbybrain is clearly a musical note
<15> @find () () (Andi)
<14> Nothing returned.
<15> @find (Andi) () ()
<14> Nothing returned.
<15> Wow.
<15> @find (Yaakov) () ()
<14> Yaakov is smrt | Yaakov is now known as Yaakov | Yaakov notes a lack of kismet on the lisr | Yaakov is away: electrical fire in my hair | Yaakov is back. | Yaakov is away: electrical fire in my hair. | Yaakov is possibly not feeloing exceptionally stable just now. | Yaakov is famous! | Yaakov is using yatta.mpg for network throughput testing | Yaakov may be a fun person to talk about re: that.
<9> hehe
<15> @find () () (Yaakov)
<14> hobbs hurts Yaakov | snL20 stabs Yaakov | yes, I know of Yaakov | GumbyBRAIN: hate Yaakov | everyone loves Yaakov | iank bites Yaakov | i don't know Yaakov | Ah I see Yaakov | **** man, I love Yaakov | buubot: **** Yaakov | of course you aren't Yaakov | sAMOa looks at Yaakov | Maddas wonders about Yaakov | Setzer petpets Yaakov | corwin_ misses Yaakov | I'm Ya`akov (the perl guru is Yaakov
<15> People seem to talk about me.
<15> @find () () (simcop2387)
<14> GumbyBRAIN: hurt simcop2387 | bynari peers at simcop2387 | sdakota agrees with simcop2387 | Khisanth stabs simcop2387 | psypete slaps simcop2387 | what is simcop2387 | I blame simcop2387 | You **** simcop2387 | my account name is simcop2387 | thanks, I have simcop2387 | elisabeth == simcop2387 | Khisanth smacks simcop2387 | Khisanth slaps simcop2387 | Khisanth disagrees with simcop2387
<13> Yaakov will you have my babies?
<15> ew73: No.
<13> :(
<4> ew73: Shoggoth on the roof++
<13> buu: The "If I Were A Deep One" had me laughing aloud.
<4> Yeah
<17> hey buu
<4> flub flub flubb
<15> simcop2387: It seems that people have a tendency to be violent with you.
<18> Jews Did WTC!!! http://www.jewsdidwtc.com
<18> SUKI: New WORLD RELIGON http://www.sukireligion.org/
<4> tor again.
<4> Yeah
<4> er
<4> wtf?
<1> typo
<4> integral: hahaha you broke my bot
<4> Stupid BinGOs
<1> your bot? *I* broke your bot?!
<4> integral: Yes!
<1> yay!
<4> Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE / at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7/POE/Component/ IRC/State.pm line 350.
<4> mode/#perl [-b +b!*@*] by integral
<4> Looks like it was that line.
<1> yay :-)
<19> ?
<15> @count () () (Yaakov)
<14> Your query matched 87 factoids
<15> @count (Yaakov) () ()
<4> mode/#perl [-b +b!*@*] by integral
<14> Your query matched 794 factoids
<4> hrm
<6> @search () (hump) ()
<4> I wonder if it was the '+' in the mode?
<15> @count (Botje) () ()
<14> Your query matched 297 factoids
<1> must be. that's why we shouldn't use regexps for parsing kids :-P
<15> @count () () (Botje)
<14> Your query matched 45 factoids
<6> HAHA IM MORE POPULULAR
<6> or maybe not
<6> feh
<15> Botje: 794 > 297 in this universe.


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