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<0> how do i flush array clean?
<1> bleach
<2> @array = ();
<2> or, bleach
<0> thanks
<0> i'll try bleaching too :7
<3> where could I know about HTML parsing in perl
<4> $#array = -1;
<5> wamty: HTML::TreeBuilder
<3> but i want to parse table data
<5> HTML::TableContentParser
<6> a very nice thing is http://search.cpan.org/~autrijus/Template-Extract-0.40/lib/Template/Extract.pm
<7> zamolxes's url is at http://xrl.us/kjx6
<6> thank you shorten , bot cookie for you
<6> wamty: http://perladvent.org/2003/5th/ short intro
<5> zamolxes: ooh. neat!
<6> of course, this only works if the content was generated by a template itself
<8> heya guys... i'm looking for a download for gui based perl programming... i'm a noob to programming, and i'm just looking to 'tinker'... anything not terminal based would be great... any suggestions?
<5> a perl IDE?
<8> yes
<5> Yaakov`: was wibbly about Komodo a while ago
<8> i have anjuta... but i'm not sure that is what i was looking for
<9> glade for gtk
<8> thanks b0at
<10> is there any webframework for perl, except using .cgi?
<11> huh?
<11> .cgi is a file extension
<11> did you mean instead of using CGI.pm ?
<11> the module?
<10> yes
<11> well - considering how popular perl is for building websites - most ***uredly yes
<10> what kind of frameworks, names or urls?
<11> but you would probably be better off describing another tool you are familiar with
<11> or
<11> by describing what your desire is
<11> since there are lots and lots of ways to do
<10> I would like somethink similar to django or ruby on rails
<11> CGI::Application, CGI::Prototype, Maypole, Catalyst, etc etc etc
<11> ok - ruby on rails
<11> let me remember what the emerging project is on that
<12> Catalyst
<12> they are pretty similar
<11> yeah
<11> thanks
<10> it's that, I've just started with perl, and I'm not so fimiliar to programming and I wan't to have something to play around with
<11> I knew Catalyst by name but couldn't remember if it was the Ruby on rails replacement
<11> fredrik - well, unless you have a lot of experience with dynamic programming languages
<11> starting out with Catalyst as something to "play around with" is likely folly
<11> what's the other one I am thinking of Khisanth - Petal?
<11> that's not a web framework per se though
<11> hrmmm
<10> Limbic_Region: do you have an easier one for me to play around with?
<11> fredrik - you are missing the point
<11> you don't know the language
<11> you should start by familiarizing yourself with the language
<11> IOW - you don't know how anything about driving and you are asking to race in NASCAR
<10> Limbic_Region: ok, but I don't have so mouch ideas of what I could do
<12> life of a moth vs life of a butterfly? :)
<10> I'd love to do something, but I'm out of ideas
<11> fredrik - so you are the type of person that learns how to swim by having an ocean liner drop you off in the middle of the pacific huh
<10> be right back
<11> ok
<11> well
<11> go for Catalyst then
<11> we will be here when you start getting dehyrdrated and the sharks are circling
<10> I wan't start with easy things
<12> then we start burning life savers ;)
<10> but I don't know what I could do that's usefull for me
<11> fredrik - fundementals are the building stones of things that become useful to you
<12> ah the old "I am too good for the basics" excuse eh?
<11> learning how to implement the basics in a new language is always a good idea
<10> Khisanth: reversed to that
<11> fredrik - can you understand the following code? http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=538829
<11> that was my solution to a very basic problem that is solved using Perl - how to parse text into a data structure and get the desired computations on the resulting data structure
<10> Limbic_Region: no, I can't understand it
<11> it uses references, hashes, arrays, functions, etc
<11> all the basics
<11> if you don't understand that - then you are just plain not ready for NASCAR
<10> I don't undertsand the /*\^//\
<11> that's a regex
<12> Limbic_Region: that is more like getting into a car and not knowing which is the gas and which is the break :)
<13> I'm sure the manual will clearly indicate which is the accelerator and which is the deceleratrix!
<11> fredrik - I know that writing hello world programs and determining the maximum value in a file isn't all that exciting but you really need to learn the basics
<12> also stuff like scoping
<10> Limbic_Region: I haven't finnished to book yet either
<10> Limbic_Region: I'm at chapter 9
<11> and I have been using Perl since 2002-07-11
<10> Limbic_Region: seems like I have to put all my effort in learning it
<10> Limbic_Region: because I really wan't to be able to script
<11> fredrik - I had taught myself several programming languages prior to perl
<11> I did PASCAL, BASIC, shell scripting, etc
<11> awk and sed
<11> and I can tell you - nothing grabbed me by the balls and rocked my world like perl
<11> my wife calls her the other woman
<10> haha
<11> If you don't know about PerlMonks then start today
<11> http://perlmonks.org
<11> perlbot learn perl
<14> http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/
<11> hrm - what's the other perlbot factoid that has a longer list of links?
<11> perlbot perl tutorial
<11> *shrug*
<10> Limbic_Region: are you using linux?
<11> fredrik - I use Win32 and *nix pretty much 50/50
<11> well - actually since being married Win32 has gained a slight advantage as my wife isn't really a techie
<10> Limbic_Region: do you know how I install a module in ubuntu?
<11> well - CPAN.pm works on every platform that Perl works on so that's 1 way
<11> but no, I don't know the ubuntu specific way
<11> perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'
<11> CPAN> install Some::Module
<11> that's my preferred method
<10> ok
<11> some people prefer CPANPLUS
<11> but others that have a default package manager swear by it
<11> so someone from the debian camp would like laugh at me
<11> s/like/likely/
<15> what's Limbic_Region's project?
<13> fredrik: If you want things "managed", you should first see if there's a libfoo-bar-perl module already available and install that
<13> fredrik: and if there isn't, you're encouraged to use dh-make-perl to try to get the module from CPAN and turn it into a package, and install that
<13> fredrik: because at the least, you get easy uninstalls and upgrades :)
<16> is the hasksell implemetation of perl6 stable enough for serious development?
<13> mc__: developing it, or developing _on_ it? ;)
<16> hobbs: on it
<13> mc__: Depends. Not unless you want to get caught up in developing it. And that's not the implementation so much as the language ;)
<13> mc__: but talk to #perl6 instead :)
<16> hobbs: k,thx
<15> who is MJD ?
<15> perlbot MDJ
<15> perlbot MJD
<14> Mark Jason Dominus, http://perl.plover.com/ - The Man, The Legend, The Ultimate Perl Guru
<15> ohhh
<15> he's supposedly coming to in May
<17> good speaker too
<15> to toronto that is
<17> I hate perl.c.
<18> ahh. toronto, in the only country in the world that I can't enter. :)
<17> just wait until they don't let you back into the states :)
<18> that's pretty unlikely. :)
<15> merlyn can't get into toronto??
<18> I'm a felon.
<18> Canada doesn't let felons enter.
<18> Criminals with misdemeanors have to pay a CDN200 transit fee.
<15> i see
<15> misdemeanor makes you a felon? i'm a felon too then
<18> Probably a reaction to all the canadian refugees during vietnam.
<18> No...
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