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<0> buu: OK
<1> daddius: taking a poll?
<2> i got a perl q
<3> daddius: I don't and I consider it as Evil incarnated.
<4> dabreegster: sometimes
<3> jedi06: shoot. Don't ask to ask.
<5> Paladin, naw no poll
<1> daddius: then why ask?
<3> Hi Paladin`
<5> rindolf, what do you use?
<0> Khisanth: What're the chances of it being in Houston or somewhere in the south?
<1> 'lo rindolf
<3> Paladin`: are you going to YAPC::NA?
<6> dabreegster: I know some people trying to get it in houston
<5> Paladin, i was confused by some of the instructions on it...
<3> daddius: XML::LibXML mostly.



<6> dabreegster: But I don't know if they're winning
<1> rindolf: no.. unfortunatly, I can't..
<3> daddius: also XML::Writer, etc.
<2> in using reqex when you use a variable such as /^$var[2]/ and the $var2="$hello" this will not work
<5> rindolf, does it work good?
<3> Paladin`: I'm not going either.
<0> buu: I hope they succeed. Is there a poll or something?
<5> rindolf, i just want to read an xml config file
<1> daddius: then why not ask about what you are confused about rather than wasting time asking usless questions?
<3> jedi06: there isn't double interpolation in Perl.
<3> daddius: it works pretty well.
<3> daddius: do you want to write it?
<2> $hello is not a variable
<4> dabreegster: actually I was replying to daddius without looking :P
<2> it is a string
<3> daddius: also look at XPath...
<6> dabreegster: Not really. Cities submit their bids and the council decides|!
<0> Khisanth: Oh, OK
<5> rindolf, just need to read a few xml files into a script
<3> daddius: XPath rocks my socks.
<0> buu: Woot!
<3> daddius: OK.
<6> dabreegster: Yeah
<2> $hello is not a variable it is a string
<3> daddius: there's a nice XPath tutorial on zvon.org.
<6> idiot
<2> is there a way around it
<5> rindolf, will check up on it
<3> jedi06: you should use '$hello'
<6> Oh god
<6> Have they no shame?
<3> jedi06: or q{$hello}.
<3> jedi06: or "\$hello".
<3> jedi06: TIMTOWTDI.
<2> but i need a variable there
<3> daddius: OK.
<2> in the regex
<7> or q!$! . "hello"
<3> jedi06: I mean outside it.
<1> jedi06: you just said it was a string, not a variable.. which is it?
<3> jedi06: do a my $s = q{$hello}; /${s}hello/
<3> jedi06: with better variable names.
<2> $var[2] needs to be in regex but this variable will always have a $ at the beginning
<3> This is just for demonstration.
<3> jedi06: OK. So what should happen to this $?
<2> i just need to search for it in a .txt
<6> I don't think I can take titanic in space
<1> jedi06: you need to search for the literal text '$hello'?
<2> yes buts its not always 'hello' but always a $
<1> jedi06: so you just need to search for a '$'?
<2> nope
<2> has to be something after it
<1> jedi06: then you need to be more specific.. What exactly do you need to search for?
<2> "$" Follow by some variable string such as "$hello" or "$bye" or "$whatever"
<1> jedi06: ok.. so build that.. how do you match a literal '$' in a regex?
<3> Is beth coming to YAPC::NA? I think so judging from her blog.
<2> \$
<6> hahaha
<2> so /^\$$var[2]/ but i will have to cut off the $ in $var[2]
<6> You hurt my head.
<6> Your code, it oozes out of your malignant brain like a tumour with legs.



<8> buu++
<9> AKIRA! TETSUO!
<6> integral: I've lost track. Are you at yapc?
<8> buu: I'm in Edinburgh. Where's YAPC?
<6> integral: Someplace else.
<8> Nope, I'm not at yapc
<6> Ok.
<10> Where's YAPC? have you been sleeping these months?
<6> integral: It's just over there.
<11> nice.. battery dropped below critical as I was typing.. shutdown the laptop.. heh
<6> Paladin: Those Bastards!
<11> heh.. luckly yum had just finished it's update..
<6> its! Its for president!
<11> shutting down while installing the kernel would have been a "Bad Thing"TM
<12> nah
<12> it would be fine unless the interruption happend during the running of lilo
<11> ya.. not sure at what step it removes the old kernel, whether that's before or after installing the new one.. or before or after running lilo
<3> Hi Ikarus_
<13> off to YAPC, TTFN
<3> linuxnohow: bye, have fun.
<3> What's TTFN
<3> perlbot is still ofline.
<14> tata for now
<3> blondie: are you going too?
<14> no
<3> blondie: oh, I see.
<3> I wonder if my co-worker went to YAPC::NA. He's American.
<3> But we're working with PHP at work.
<3> Which is what I'm writing a use.perl.org journal entry on.
<8> perldb-- # wtf doesn't it use the same commands as gdb?!
<3> integral: my sentiments too.
<3> integral: did you look at Devel::ebug.
<3> integral: did you see the bug I found in it on perl5-porters?
<3> I wonder if anyone replied.
<3> I didn't receive any replies to my inbox.
<8> p5p is funny
<3> No, none.
<3> Hmmmpf...
<3> And it's reproducible (at least on my system).
<3> Maybe I should report it using perlbug
<3> I originally found it when trying to debug Module::Build.
<3> Whose code seems readable.
<3> Then I discovered it was a bug in the onfig, or an incompatiblity.
<3> Which exists in both Fedora Core 5 and Mandriva 2006.
<8> using perlbug is good. There's a regular report of open tickets so until someone does something about it people get nagged
<3> And doesn't exist in a plain sh Configure -prefix=... .
<3> integral: OK.
<3> integral: it's also exhibited in Devel::ebug.
<3> So it's probably in the perl core.
<3> I used to think that perl just worked and was bug free.
<3> Nowadays I'm discovering more and more bugs.
<3> But maybe I'm becoming a more advanced programmer.
<3> And so my code is more complex.
<3> Sorry for the long monolgues.
<3> integral: you are welcome to join #lisp-il.
<8> I don't program in lisp
<3> It's much less hostile than #lisp.
<3> integral: don't you know Lisp?
<8> closures have long been bugged, and guess which programmers use those more :)
<3> Or Scheme?
<3> I like closures.
<8> rindolf: oh, I can write code in Lisps, but I do not program in it.
<3> integral: yes.
<8> I only do Perl, Haskell and C currently.
<3> integral: well, #lisp-il is not really about Lisp.
<3> Well we are lisp-oriented, but we also discuss other stuff.
<3> integral: I see.
<8> meh, I discuss stuff to much. doing is much better.
<3> integral: I don't recall when was the last time I did a lot fo Haskell programming.
<3> integral: yeah.
<3> I always log off the IRC when I'm trying to get something done.
<3> The IRC is too distracting.
<3> I don't have a lot of discipline.


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