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<0> rindolf: That's a good way to break a system, not accomplish something useful.
<1> Probably, for you, the second easiest way would be to just build and install what you needed.
<2> http://search.cpan.org/~kennedyh/Number-Phone-US-1.5/lib/Number/Phone/US.pm states the at phone numbers such as "5 1212" are valid, how can that be?
<3> hobbs: I see.
<4> rutski89's url is at http://xrl.us/noyt
<1> Yaakov, pinning is weird, I don't know it, and I don't thik I like it
<0> rutski89: they have a tendency to work on really big exchanges at universities :)
<2> hobbs: hmm... but what if I dialed it from home?
<0> rutski89: i.e. the number that's 123-834-1234 from the outside is also 4-1234 from the inside
<5> jsn: You roll a pin test if a unit loses more than 25% of its models to shooting..
<5> Wait.
<2> hobbs: define outside, define inside
<0> Outside \Out"side`\, n.
<0> 1. The external part of a thing; the part, end, or side which
<0> forms the external surface; that which appears, or is
<0> manifest; that which is superficial; the exterior.
<0> [1913 Webster]
<6> hobbs: lol
<2> lol
<2> seriously though, what's considered "inside" on a phone system?
<7> the parts you better not touch unless you're servicing it :)
<8> Er. Hi. I'm doing exec("echo \$RANDOM >> file.txt") while(1==1); and I only get one new line each time my script executes. Any idea why?
<7> or can't anyway :P
<0> freeone3000: because your script doesn't exist anymore once you call exec()
<7> freeone3000: are you using bash or perl?
<9> freeone3000: Why not just say while 1? 1 will always == 1
<8> Supaplex: Perl.
<7> while : ; do echo $RANDOM ; done
<8> Supaplex: Ah, thanks.
<7> then why use exec at all?
<8> Er. I royally **** at bash and was stupid and didn't read the docs about exec overriding my program.
<7> we all start somewhere
<10> what's the name of the module that lets me find out what the filename is of the script I'm executing?
<11> print __FILE__
<12> $0 is the filename
<9> $0 will contain it
<10> thanks :)
<13> $0 is mutable
<12> YOU'RE MUTABLE
<13> (sometimes)
<14> our $thrig is mutable;
<5> Is HE?!
<1> immutable data is such a h***le I know longer use it
<14> Apparently.
<14> buu: According to japhy, yes.
<12> I muted him earlier.
<5> Aankhen``: This is fascinating. Do go on.
<5> japhy: How does that make you feel?
<14> Sorry, I'm all tapped out of wisdom. Try again tomorrow.
<12> buu: we were talking about you, not me
<5> japhy: Go on. Did it involve your mother?
<1> I store all text strings in a hash $text. $text{barf} = "barf". So, if I want to put together a sentence, it is like print @text{qw(This sentence is an immutable string)};
<12> buu: how does it involve your mother make you feel?
<5> jsn: Uh. What?
<1> buu: Uh, just kidding.
<5> japhy: You're better at it =[. I've never actually played with elizas
<12> jsn: just use Identity.pm
<1> Does that make all data immutable?
<12> buu: I played with one on a Commodore 64.
<14> buu: Aww, you missed out.
<14> It was a lot of fun.
<1> $numbers{4} = $numbers{2} + $numbers{2}, for example.
<14> I remember playing with one in emacs.
<12> jsn: no, it gives you a hash that returns its keys as its values
<1> It is a very immutable system
<12> jsn: I think it was renamed Interpolate.pm though
<6> lol
<12> not very immutable, I guess ;)
<12> anyway.
<1> data, changing on a person, how can I keep up, I constantly wonder.
<15> why oh why isn't Error.pm in the standard distribution :(
<3> pasky: possibly because it's too magical and error-prone.
<16> can i display a block of code in pod without having to wrap each line with C<< line; >> ?
<3> pasky: I'm the Error.pm maintainer BTW.
<17> chovy: yes
<18> chovy: apparently just indenting it with a tab does the trick
<17> http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpod.html#Verbatim-Paragraph-POD%2c-verbatim-paragraph-verbatim
<4> mauke's url is at http://xrl.us/noz3
<16> nice
<19> Dumb Q: Is there a (more succinct) pod meta language? Like something terser that compiles to pod?
<5> More succinct than.. wtf?!
<18> centosian: you could look into Kwid
<18> it's supposed to be the next generation of POD
<5> Kwid is just weird
<18> dunno, haven't looked at it
<15> rindolf: Ah. Well, I've just designed and implemented a nice error-handling interface for reporting errors to the caller in my module, and now I'm wondering what to do... :|
<18> in fact, i'll do so now
<3> pasky: you should also look at Exception::Cl***.
<3> Botje: there's also Perldoc
<15> rindolf: unfortunately, it's not acceptable for the module to have dependencies on non-default modules :(
<3> pasky: I see.
<18> hello, rindolf
<15> rindolf: I guess I will just have to die and let the caller catch it with eval, but it's clumsy
<18> my exams went well today.
<18> i'm looking for ward to tomorrow, the last one.
<1> I got a stinking job offer today!
<1> I've been out of work since the day the Iraq War started.
<3> pasky: well, you can just put Error.pm along with the rest of your code. (I don't think it has any deps).
<1> a perl job, thank you
<3> jsn: the new Iraq war, right?
<18> jsn: UN weapons inspector?
<3> jsn: congrats?
<3> jsn: congrats!
<1> rindolf, yeah, 3.5 years or somesuch
<3> jsn: holy virgin...
<1> Botje, I really don't have the background to do that, although if they need some perl programming, I could do it
<3> jsn: and I though I was looking for a job for a long while.
<18> ;)
<18> congratulations on the job offer, anyway
<1> rindolf, I quit on purpose. I didn't work on purpose.
<1> messed up war
<15> rindolf: yes, that's what I considered too.. I expected it to have some .xs part, though - if it doesn't, that's pretty interesting option
<3> jsn: I also quit my previous job.
<20> "godzirra" at 71.16.83.66 pasted "regex question" (3 lines, 125B) at http://sial.org/pbot/17929
<21> Can anyone take a look at that and tell me if that will work? I'm not clear on whether thats the part not working r if its a different part not working.
<22> anyone know why i have this error "Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/Protocol.pm" or why Encode::is_utf8($response->content) return false ?
<15> godzirra: first, are you sure you want to p*** an array _reference_ initializer to an array?
<21> Oops. Probably not.
<3> Chris62vw: here?
<21> pasky++ # For pointing out my own folly.
<21> That did it :)
<15> cool :)
<15> godzirra: otherwise, it'll make you much more effective if you learn quickly reviewing any hypothesis on how could whatever behave by writing code snippets as perl -le 'yoursnippet...'
<15> and seeing what it does
<21> What does -l do?
<21> I'm familiar with -e
<15> (the -l makes print append a newline)
<21> Ah ok
<21> Thanks for the advice.
<3> jsn: does the company you are going to work for has a website?
<3> s/has/have/
<23> hm, what does the following syntax mean: my $foo = sub { ... }
<23> is this a pointer to a function?
<24> ref to sub
<25> joseki: it creates a code reference
<3> joseki: it's a dynamic reference to a function. A closure.
<17> NOT A CLOSURE
<26> yay! only 14 more functions to write!
<25> simcop2387: what are you writing?
<23> ok, then I should be able to p*** this to a constructor by logger => $foo ?
<26> GumbyBRAIN: closures, coroutines, and grammars! oh my!
<27> Oh, and i cant seem to be able to modify the p***ed object in some coroutines :p.
<26> doctormo: some boring C++
<3> joseki: http://www.shlomifish.org/Vipe/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture3/
<23> and then call it as $foo inside my constructure?
<4> rindolf's url is at http://xrl.us/no3o
<3> joseki: sure.
<15> rindolf: if I'd install Error.pm along with my module, will a further "proper" installation of Error.pm happily overwrite it?
<24> $foo->()
<3> joseki: if you say $foo = $args{'logger'};
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