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<infi> ... and knowing is half the battle.
<blackcarrera> the same happends on windows
<blackcarrera> hm
<infi> GumbyBRAIN: GI Joe!
<GumbyBRAIN> Go joe go.
<Botje> AI_coder: now try adding in Mason modules
<Botje> just use them
<Botje> see if they change DBI
<infi> never looked into the windows allocation implementation
<Ikarus> infi: windows never returns memory
<blackcarrera> :)
<infi> EVER!
<Ikarus> windows 9x even can manage to never ever return memory to free condition
<infi> it blows out the transistors themselves
<infi> write-once memory!
<Teratogen> Win 98 SE Forever~!
<blondie> no, ME
<infi> hey, they could do that to further lock their OS onto the desktop
<Ikarus> infi: there once a spec sheet for write only memory (april fools joke)
<infi> like a bastardized Pringles commercial: "Once you boot, you can't stop!"
<infi> Ikarus: I think I vaguely remember seeing that
<AI_coder> It appears as though it has been using CGI all along, when I "PerlSetVar MasonArgsMethod mod_perl" iI get an internal server error.
<Ikarus> infi: pff, the windows 2003 server is already "once you boot you can't stop" as it won't ever shutdown
<Ikarus> (the one at work)
<infi> hah, I know all too well
<Ikarus> Luckily i don't have to deal with it much
<infi> Shutting down network connections..................
<infi> .............
<infi> .......
<infi> etc.
<Ikarus> It never happens
<infi> It's a ruse.
<Ikarus> It actually was the reason to buy 3x as much UPS capacity
<infi> to give them an extra 45 minutes to shut down properly during a power outage?
<Ikarus> infi: erm, it never shuts down, it is just a hope and pray operation
<infi> ah, here we go.
<infi> blackcarrera: took some digging, but check out perldoc -q 'program shrinks'
<Ikarus> and if it involves blood sacrifice to Bill Gates
<infi> and if there is a ``Ritual Chair-throwing for Aspiring Executives'' workshop after every sermon..
<Ikarus> yup
<BinGOs> I found this GIF -> http://gumbybrain.org/images/bill.gif
<Ikarus> Seriously, Windows is one OS that requires too much luck
<AI_coder> Botje: Ok, I'm trying to run the standalone.
<AI_coder> http://www.masonhq.com/docs/manual/Admin.html#using_mason_from_a_standalone_sc
<shorten> AI_coder's url is at http://xrl.us/nns5
<AI_coder> $interp->exec("displaydb.html");
<AI_coder> Component path given to Interp->load must be absolute (was given displaydb.html)
<blackcarrera> hm, I need Frontier XMLRPC expertice... anyone know who to contact ? :-)
<AI_coder> I used their code and plunked the file name into <relative path to file>
<AI_coder> So ***uming it wants the absolute I put it in and get...
<AI_coder> could not find component for initial path '/var/www/3/cgi-bin/displaydb.html' (component roots are: '/var/www/3/cgi-bin')
<Botje> well, I really don't know Mason, sorry :/
<Teratogen> don't you back up your data?
<AI_coder> Ok, the bastard just wanted a leading / not a ./ but a /
<AI_coder> Ok, yes Mason works fine with DBI there.
<AI_coder> It just doesn't like to work with it in apache.
<scrottie> Why 3x UPC capacity? Sometimes deisel generators don't like to start after they've been sitting for a month. And you *do* fire it up every month, I hope.
<scrottie> That gives you enough time to get a diesel repair tech down.
<scrottie> Worked at Motorola for a while. The email team had a bay of cubes by us. They very rarely came in. But they always left their monitors on. The area was under heavy construction and for a while power outages were frequent. Half the lights would go off, and a recording would play on some PA speakers in the ceiling, a la grade school, reminding everyone to shut off their monitors and other non-essential equipment.
<scrottie> Of course, no one ever turned anything off.
<scrottie> And sometimes bays and bays full of unused computers would sit there on UPS for four hours at a time.
<blackcarrera> Maybe XML::RPC actually works (anyone tried?)
<blackcarrera> xmlrpc::lite and frontier both seem to have serious problems :-(
<blackcarrera> or maybe I am the problem
<scrottie> Then there's Eli Lilly er I mean PCS er I mean AdvancePCS er I mean CareMark. They've got a *nice* diesel generator.
<AI_coder> Hehe, check out what I found http://rsm.usask.ca/login.html
<AI_coder> One point of interest is knowing if mod_perl is working.
<AI_coder> Is there any way to test that?
<scrottie> No, there's no way to test if mod_perl is running.
<Teratogen> up late or up early, scrotty?
<scrottie> late.
<Teratogen> err
<scrottie> but not very late. not yet.
<Teratogen> s/scrotty/scrottie/
<blackcarrera> beam me up scrottie
<scrottie> if I had a nickel for every time I heard that one...
<blackcarrera> :)
<blackcarrera> you'd still be poor?
<blackcarrera> or have like 2,50
<scrottie> I'd still be poor, but it would double my income.
<blackcarrera> ah :)
<f00li5h> is there an easy way to resolve depends when cpan's being lame, and failing builds?
<scrottie> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
<scrottie> okay, that's better
<scrottie> nothing like a low keyrepeat rate and autoindent off ;)
<infi> I dig solaris' keyboard repeat rate, you can set it up to like 120cps
<scrottie> that doesn't touch what you could do in AmigaOS
<infi> er, Sun's I guess
<scrottie> the sky's the limit there. could cover a page in half a second if you liked.
<infi> hehe
<infi> (outtyping a 14.4 modem)++
<b0at> My thinkpad frequently beeps because I'm going too fast
<infi> ew, what model?
<infi> my T41 never did that
<infi> sounds like a terminal issue or something, rather than a hardware limitation, though.
<b0at> t21
<b0at> Well, sometimes it just pauses for a second and then catches up
<scrottie> heh. and what operating systems?
<Yaakov> pravus: rotors, pads, caplipers and hoses for both front wheels.
<infi> Yaakov: Ew, sounds expensive. Is this on the new Buick you mentioned a while back?
<scrottie> ewww. American cars ****. You should buy a Japamerican car. They're a lot better.
<Yaakov> infi: No, Astro. 725 bucks.
<infi> oh, that's not as bad as I'd thought. I think I paid that for just one set of the above, with labor :|
<dec> perlbot, build?
<dec> perlbot, Module::Build?
<scrottie> GumbyBRAIN, buick breaks?
<GumbyBRAIN> If theyre not references then dereferencing breaks.
<Yaakov> infi: Still didn't want to pay the money--but it was genuinely unsafe to drive.
<dec> is Module::Build what I should be using for some sort of makefile, package and module distribution?
<BinGOs> condensed evil.
<dec> I will rephrase.
<Yaakov> infi: Plus they gave us 2 free oil change coupons!
<dec> What should I be using to package and distribute a module for CPAN, etc?
<BinGOs> ExtUtils::MakeMaker
<dec> Ok.
<dec> :)
<BinGOs> Module::Build is condensed evil.
<dec> buubot: Module::Build?
<dec> buubot: Module::Build
<dec> pfft
<Yaakov> GumbyBRAIN: YAPC
<GumbyBRAIN> Hi all - i am going to yapc::na is also leroy brown.
<Yaakov> LEEEEEROY JENKINS!
<scrottie> GumbyBRAIN: RDP over carrier pigeon
<GumbyBRAIN> F00li5h, what should i get dpkg -l to show a bit over the same place i could really want to give me a hole! Yeeehaw!!! *Bzzzt* &#(!*&no carrier.
<Teratogen> wow tempe.pm is really taking off!
<Teratogen> NOT!
<Teratogen> =)
<BinGOs> dec: http://search.cpan.org/~kwilliams/Module-Build-0.2801/lib/Module/Build.pm#MOTIVATIONS
<shorten> BinGOs's url is at http://xrl.us/nntj
<f00li5h> GumbyBRAIN: oh, ok! thanks a bunch for that. it really helps.
<GumbyBRAIN> And make sure that if it helps.
<GumbyBRAIN> My flatmate thinks that the rest of the gumbybrain, is long and narrow, like hallways, and some sunos/solaris boxes had the "broken" cc that couldn't do with them, i think.
<scrottie> GumbyBRAIN: unformatted capacity of my head?
<GumbyBRAIN> I made my head for a certain capacity.
<dec> BinGOs - heh, his reasons are not really good enough for me to use Module::Build over MakeMaker :)
<dec> GumbyBRAIN: how big is your head?
<GumbyBRAIN> O'reilly is a big head.
<Brend> GumbyBRAIN, have you played with O'reilly's big head?
<GumbyBRAIN> I head the file for you with all the examples they give a better interface.
<scrottie> GumbyBRAIN, you talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?
<GumbyBRAIN> But be able to walk.
<dec> GumbyBRAIN: you have no legs!
<GumbyBRAIN> This line seems to have no legs!
<dec> perhaps the line is drunk
<scrottie> GumbyBRAIN: comment my code for me please: $request->print(map qq{<td><img src="$_"></td>}, map $_->fn, map $screen->[$_]->[$sy], 0 .. $screen_width-1);
<GumbyBRAIN> Localtime goes from index 0 to the subroutine. See pasted code at http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/map.
<scrottie> "yeah, that's why i get this bot to the poor, they call me a snack." -- GumbyBRAIN (nearby comment in the same program)
<dec> buubot: the line
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