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<0> lol
<1> Perl Over Everything
<2> and CGI::application.
<3> I do sudo pkg_add ftp://some.mirror.com/path/to/gmake.tgz
<1> and CGI::Prototype
<1> and my ***-travel. :)
<3> and mod_perl, but that's mostly me complaining about DSO's and libperl.so for the past 2 days
<3> lol
<1> australia, mexico, brazil...
<3> need i remind you?
<4> what func can I use to format a string >80 chars so that it wraps properly (doesn't break a word) in an 80 char term
<1> there's Text::AutoFormat
<2> brlancer: look at Text::Wrap
<5> damn...i got a huge problem that i have no idea how to solve, god damnit
<6> damir: we'll need more explanation than that to help you with it then.
<2> brlancer: better yet, Text::Format.



<1> let's just start solving random problems
<1> maybe they'll be part of it
<2> merlyn: isn't Text::AutoFormat Damian's highly magical module?
<1> so - a train leaves chicago at 4:30 in the afternoon, travelling 60 mph...
<5> its this unicode crap, i have a chat server with web interface (using ajax and stuff) and its also listening on tcp socket accepting IRC connections
<1> damir - are you using POE?
<5> i want to allow people to use different nicknames, like in arabic or swedish
<5> server is not the problem merlyn
<1> apparently it is
<5> its converting all this unicode stuff
<1> or you wouldn't be asking about it
<1> that's why I asked
<5> how do i accept utf-8 from web browser and then display that to irc clients?
<7> very carefully
<5> they just see bunch of ****
<6> damir: well first you have to pin point exactly where it's getting converted.
<5> mIRC doesnt have unicode support
<1> how will the irc clients know it's a UTF8 encoding?
<8> stop using mirc then.
<1> you can down-convert with Encode
<2> damir: can you try it with X-Chat or whatever?
<5> its like telling google not to develop website that will work on IE Botje
<1> I did it for a column just recently
<4> rindolf / merlyn -- I'm reading up on those modules now. thanks
<1> oops
<5> merlyn, you mean convert utf-8 to "something" and send it to irc clients?
<1> ... use Encode qw(encode);
<1> ... my $desc = encode('ascii' => $headline->description);
<1> that ascii-fies the string as best it can
<2> brlancer: you're welcome.
<5> how fast is this encoding? I will have to do that for each line i get from some client
<5> could be 100's in a second
<8> ...
<1> why does it matter?
<1> it's the right thing, and as fast as it can be
<1> if that's not enough, get more CPU
<1> you can probably do the wrong thing quicker. :)
<5> yea heh
<1> so for each TCP connection, you'll have to have some way to know what downconverting to do
<1> because some of them *might* want utf8
<1> *and* some of them might be *sending* utf8
<1> so you need to have everyone register what type of encoding they are using
<1> others may be sending latin-1
<1> and that's not compatible. :)
<5> i can just ***ume that from web browser i am getting and *want* to send utf8
<5> from irc clients ascii
<5> from/to
<1> be sure you include the right encoding on the page response then
<5> i am
<5> this will be cool....knowing i am doing it the "right way" heh
<5> merlyn, i get bunch of question marks when using encode()
<8> ascii kind of ****s for arabic
<5> its not arabic, its ""
<1> those are the characters that don't have an ASCII
<9> what is the difference between a reference and a weak reference?
<1> Hmm. I just saw \366\345\344 - are you sending latin-1 here? or utf8?
<1> immute - weak references don't get refcounted
<8> immute: if something is only reachable by weak references, it may be garbage collected.
<1> they let the object go away, and then become undef.
<1> you'd use it for A pointing at B pointing back (weakly) at A
<1> if the latter wasn't weak, it'd never go away unless you manually broke the link



<5> here in the channel?
<5> i have it on my keyboard heh
<1> yes, here in the channel.
<1> I can send utf8 - Ingy dt Net
<1> if you didn't see "Ingy dot Net" with dots over the o, your encoding is messed up
<5> i dont, i am using mIRC
<8> get a decent irc client then.
<1> Ahh.
<1> That's why \366\345\344 then - it's probably sending latin-1
<2> merlyn: I didn't see the dots.
<2> dt
<5> i am pretty sure that string i am encoding is in utf8
<1> I saw the dots there
<8> yay dots!
<1> o/~ dots the way, uh-huh uh-huh I like it... uh-huh uh-huh
<5> merlyn, encode should recognize utf8 automatic or ?
<1> Only if you told it that on the read
<1> a string has an ***ociated encoding
<1> how did you get the bytes into the string?
<1> unless otherwise stated, it's just "bytes"
<1> Perl doesn't know the encoding
<5> it says perl's internal encoding
<1> perldoc perluniintro
<10> perluniintro - Perl Unicode introduction. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perluniintro'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perluniintro.html
<1> please to be reading that. :)
<5> i have use utf8;
<1> please to be reading.
<1> I think it's time I jumped into the shower and started doing my laundry
<1> in case someone decides to come over, although that's unlikely.
<5> ah crap, i have binmode $client, ":utf8";
<11> GumbyBRAIN: clams ...
<12> I use only one exec will be done.
<13> This channel is _dead_ !
<14> Does its spirit live on?
<14> Perhaps in a different universe... or maybe just a different IRC server?
<15> not normally
<13> Yea, the spirit moved to irc.perl.org
<13> but it's trying to move back, I see
<13> Let's all talk about nonsense to get the spirit back!
<15> it is normally no let this
<13> perlbot talk about nothing
<13> perlbot be like nothing
<16> <nothing> CAN I BORROW SOME OF UR BRAINPOWER PLZ? I DONT WANNA LERN PEARL!@!
<13> YEA PERLBOT IVE GOT MORE THAN ENOUGH :P:P:P:P:P
<9> perlbot: jerk it
<9> hmm
<9> workbench: cube it
<17> That contained a sentence with fewer than three words.
<13> perlbot, jerk it is Jerking it
<16> added jerk it to the database
<17> It's for this reason that I've started selling TSA ****S! socks and HANDS OFF, LIBERALS! butt plugs.
<13> perlbot jerk it
<16> Jerking it
<13> ^_^
<13> workbench help
<13> workbench, help
<17> There's no help for topic 'help'.
<13> ...
<13> Riiight.
<9> perlbot: no, jerk it is <rss="http://www.phreeow.net/cgi-bin/jerkme.rss">;
<16> added no, jerk it to the database
<13> I'm BQSed.
<13> :P
<9> perlbot jerk it
<16> Jerking it
<13> perlbot no, jerk it
<16> <rss="http://www.phreeow.net/cgi-bin/jerkme.rss">;
<9> must not be like purl
<14> Thanks for the object lesson
<9> perlbot-- purl++
<13> really ;)
<13> perlbot, forget jerk it
<16> removed jerk it from the database
<18> no im weird i just broke my keyboard


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