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<0> No fish. No fowl.
<1> lies :(
<1> what about sheep?
<0> No brain. No pain.
<0> GumbyBRAIN: baa ?
<2> It'd be awesome to see if the decedent's will did not redefined "understand" as "realize ...". I distinguished those as two separate things.
<0> okay ...
<3> How does mod perl know where to find the perl binaries to embed into httpd? I ask because I want to build mod_perl with a manually compiled version of perl.
<3> do I need to set LD_CONFIG_PATH?
<3> **LD_LIBRARY_PATH
<1> rutski89: it links with libperl ..
<0> Hmmm. I'm trying to be lazy^wefficient and want to check for the existence of a module in Makefile.PL, set something if it exists that'll then 'be available' in my plethora of test-cases ?
<1> so probably the first one you come across
<3> Botje: yes, my system's libperl.so is in /usr/lib/libper.so.10.0, but this manually compiled perl that I have is prefixed into /home/rutski89/perl, and it's statically built, so no libperl.so exists.
<0> the ExtUtils::MakeMaker docs are not being very helpful.
<0> That must be huge!
<1> rutski89: well, you need a libperl.so to compile mod_perl
<4> hoorah for torrents!
<1> you PIRATE
<3> Botje: are you sure? then how is mod perl built on systems with a -Uuseshrplib Perl?
<5> guten morgen
<1> err.. what? :/
<6> GumbyBRAIN: ninja pirates
<2> Boobs will be a ninja after 15 years.
<3> Botje: -Uuseshrplib prevents the creation of libperl.so and builds all of the libperl.so stuff directly into /usr/bin/perl
<4> haha Botje++
<1> and what good does that do you?
<4> I just lost my whole music collection.
<4> /kick bluebeard
<3> Botje: if you DO choose to use libperl.so then you can have other programs like mod_perl or PostgreSQL link against it too. This is convenient, but it can cause issues when you upgrade your Perl, and dynamically linked programs are a few ticks slower then statically linked ones
<1> ehh
<1> I believe it was statically linking that made problems when upgrading.
<3> I don't really care either way, but the HTML::Mason docs say to use a non-DSO mod_perl, but I don't know how far to go with that
<3> Botje: hmm, maybe i'm not sure
<3> what i'm saying is
<1> I doubt dynamically linking mod_perl will be much slower than statically
<1> since it would only get loaded *ONCE*
<3> maybe
<1> and you'd reduce the memory footprint of apache binaries too.
<3> again, I don't really care either way, but the HTML::Mason docs say that it will have memory leaks if used under a DSO mod_perl v1
<1> every child having its own copy of libperl linked in takes tits toll
<1> brr
<1> mod_perl 1?
<1> so you're running apache 1 too?
<3> yea
<3> Mason still has a few kinks to work out on Apache2/mod_perl2
<1> like?
<7> hey all im usinhg IO::Socket to make a tcp connection to a service on a remote machine all is working well, but I need it to do timed events. now as im reacding the socket into $_ it will only read any code when it is recieved. how should I get around this
<3> and performance really isn't an issue for this app
<3> Botje: it uses CGI modules in a few places instead of the Apache:: modules because of the different API. They intend to fix that, but I don't want to deal with the hack fixes until then.
<3> The books I read about mod_perl and mason used mod_perl and apache1, so I guess it's also that i'm used to it.
<8> anyone knows where could i find some Tk gurus?
<1> rutski89: CGI.pm is mod_perl aware ..
<1> prism: use nonblocking sockets.
<3> Botje: ahh, ok; I built perl with -Uuseshrplib, so no libperl.so exists. However, there is a /home/rutski89/perl/lib/5.8.8/OpenBSD.i386-openbsd/CORE/libperl.a file, so mod_perl can probably use that
<7> Botje, got a man page anywhere
<1> ehh
<1> maybe.
<3> but how can I be sure that it links against /home/rutski89/perl/lib/5.8.8/OpenBSD.i386-openbsd/CORE/libperl.a and not /usr/lib/libperl.so.10.0 or even /usr/lib/libperl.a
<3> ?
<1> prism: perldoc IO::Socket::INET lists quite a few instances of blocking
<9> IO::Socket::INET. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc IO::Socket::INET'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/IO/Socket/INET.html
<7> Botje, ty
<3> Botje: this page shows some of the stuff that i just don't feel like dealing with: http://www.masonhq.com/?ApacheModPerl2
<1> ehm.
<1> that page bitches about mod_perl 2.0.0-rc5
<1> we're up to 2.0.2, atm.
<3> "Apache2::Request is part of the libapreq2 package. It is still in the development stage"
<1> lies.
<3> really?
<3> even the README file in the latest mod_perl-2 distro says "** Status ** mod_perl-2 is still considered beta"
<1> it's rock solid for me, anyways
<3> it probably is, but the Mason docs clearly point out issues, and I don't want to deal with them. I'm sure other modules are fine.
<3> But that's not the point. The point is that I need to be sure about which libperl.{so.a} mod_perl is linking against.
<1> i'm sure man ld or man ld.so knows
<3> ldd seems to only work on executable programs
<0> indeed.
<3> and plush I couldn't use ldd to see which libperl.a my httpd binary is linked with because it's statically linked, and ldd only shows info about dynamic linkage
<3> s/plush/plus
<1> I said ld, not ldd
<3> ahh, ok; never used that one before
<3> i'll read up, 1 sec
<1> err, i doubt taht
<3> huh?
<1> it's the linker :P
<3> oh, yea :(
<3> so what examination tool should I use then?
<1> man ld.
<1> i'm sure it has some flags you can set to add include paths
<1> you could p*** that along as LDFLAGS to the configure
<3> ahh, ok; cool
<10> mh.. i need to place a very basic counter on a website written in perl, because i can't access the apache logs. any recommendations? maybe there is already something in CPAN which i didnt find...
<3> Botje: oh, hey. Here's an idea. My system's default perl and the perl I built manually are of different versions. I'll fire up apache and write a perl handler to simply print out the version of perl! that will show me which libperl.so or libperl.a httpd was statically linked with
<3> hmm.. how do I print out perl's version in a perl program?
<11> $]
<3> seems simple enough :) ty
<12> noganex: http://www.perl.com/doc/FAQs/cgi/perl-cgi-faq.html Q4.5: How do I write an access counter script?
<10> frostschutz: well. this one is too basic. ;)
<10> i really thought of something that saves ip/ua. i don't want the counter to update each time someone hits reload ;)
<1> but that's what counters do ..
<13> how can i get title of some web page?
<1> first, you download the html, then you parse out the title
<1> which part are you having troubles with? :)
<13> Botje, title
<13> Botje, parse out the tite
<13> title*
<1> my $title =HTML::TreeBuilder->new_from_content($html)->find('title')->as_text
<13> Botje, wow thanks
<13> Botje, thank you so much
<1> read about HTML::TB. it's wonderful
<13> Botje, thanks alot
<1> np
<14> What is the most efficient way to see if a array contains a given value?
<1> they're all O(n), why bother?
<14> I want to see if its already in the array before using push to insert it.
<1> yes, but why bother about the "most efficient"
<15> Botje, maybe he means "wrist efficient" :-P
<14> true well is a for loop for example slower?
<1> than what?
<14> chemaja: that too..
<14> foreach or I don't know I am just trying to write code that runs fast, I thought there must be some way but if not nm
<1> there's lots of ways.
<1> but if you're caring about the "most efficient", why are you using arrays anyway?
<14> to store a list of strings
<1> hashes are O(1) in both lookup, insertion, and deletion
<1> whereas arrays are O(n),O(1),O(n)
<1> of course you lose inherent ordering with hashes but you didn't say that was important
<14> ah so hashes are better, I thought that could be but I thought I was just been lazy.
<14> its not
<14> no order is required
<14> :)
<1> then hashes are, effectively, the "most efficient" data structure, for this task
<14> ta
<16> hi guyz.. how to pipe the verbose of PING into a string container?
<1> "pipe" "verbose of PING" "string container" ?
<1> explain yourself.
<17> after uninstalling perl. and reinstalling so I could have setuid perl capability I'm getting an error upon enterning the cpam prompt with the command "perl -MCPAN -e shell" as root. My error message is "Use of uninitialized value in bitwise and (&) at (eval 263) line 1, <STDIN> line1." But I don't understand what to do about it. Ive googled for it with no results.
<1> rance: have you tried reinstalling Bundle::CPAN ?
<17> If I tell it install Bundle::CPAN it tells me that its already up to day
<17> date
<17> unless there is a actual "REINSTALL" command that would work
<16> Botje: example if you use PING theres an output.. i called that verbose of ping... i want to pipeout that verbose to a string variable of perl.. so that i can strip only i want..
<1> rance: install it manually, I mean.
<1> axscode: wtf is "a verbose" ?
<1> do you perhaps mean "output" ?
<1> and would you want to ***ign that "output" to a perl string, by any chance?
<14> he means where it lists each ping request instead of final results most likely
<14> there is a POE ping package is there not?
<18> POE::Component::Ni?
<17> Botje: you mean install Bundle:CPAN without the cpan prompt?
<1> yes .
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