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<0> sili, i know it does :)
<1> frog: neither. encapsulate them
<1> access via interface
<2> they're stored in the symbol table anyway
<3> perl: The LiquiGell of OOP.
<4> ugh, the ox-cart question was easier
<5> how /quit
<6> ok, thanx guys
<7> Ok, I am in love with xul
<1> meh
<1> it's ok.
<2> buu: we won't tell
<7> "There is no data, only xul"
<2> ITYM flickrs
<1> IE doesn't do xul
<4> a born-again tag
<7> IE IS GAYER THAN SILI.
<1> obviously.
<7> And IE ****s, who uses it
<7> Come on now.
<2> communists.
<4> So when is XUL going to become a kernel module?
<2> and gay people.
<8> integral - XUL::Node , you mean?
<7> integral: 15.32 minutes
<4> ayrnieu: that's a _kernel_ module now?!
<3> IE7 looks promising.
<4> Ban the insane from CPAN!
<8> integral - no, that's a question. XUL::Node is AFAIK yet CPAN.
<4> No, I mean XUL support in the kernel
<7> integral: Pssh, then there would be no cpan.
<4> I don't mean a CPAN module
<8> integral - um, I know, but by 'XUL support in the kernel', do you mean 'something that does what XUL::Node does, but which happens to reside in kernelspace' ?
<7> ayrnieu: Stop applying logic to the situation.
<2> nothing like logic to **** up an otherwise wonderful idea.
<4> oh! No. I mean XML parsing, RDF databases, graphics rendering, and stuff; in the kernel.
<2> integral: **** that. we need XML parsing HARDWARE!
<8> XPU
<2> indeed
<2> you could even abuse the AGP port!
<3> <bus type="agp"><device><name>ATI Radeon 9700</name>...
<3> Yeah, that's fun.
<7> hahahah
<2> ehh, no
<2> I meant put that xml processing card on the AGP port
<7> http://www.faser.net/mab/chrome/content/mab.xul
<7> That's really ****ing cool.
<2> oh. that again
<2> are there any *OTHER* useful XUL apps yet?
<4> autrijus has used it for presentations
<3> So what, exactly IS XUL?
<8> Botje - I'll be using XUL for my LJ library.
<2> ah
<4> ew73: It's like HTML but designed for marking up user interfaces, not crap scientific documents
<8> ew73 - well, a google search can tell you. It is yet firefox-specific.
<9> hello. I don't know anything about perl but i'm try to edit a script I got. Could someone tell what $obj->{name} means? is this an attribute?
<4> (lacking maths typesetting, so it must be crap science)
<10> Using DBI, $dbh->selectall_hashref($statement, $key, \%attr) is it possible to get a straight key => value pairs hash instead of the hash of hashes?
<4> f00: That's just a hash reference element access.
<3> Ah, so I'm guessing 'UL' is maybe 'Userinterface Library' or somesuch?
<8> foo - please stpo editing a script and start leaning perl -- or getting someone who knows Perl to edit this script for you.
<10> Normally I juse use arrayrefs or binding, I thought perhaps adding { Columns => [1] } in the attr hashref might work but it's not
<4> The union will be sending it's enforcers around shortly.
<9> I will, but not now
<8> arguile - that works just fine, depending on what you want to do.
<8> arguile - oh, sorry, missed the first part of your question.
<4> ugh, port makes integral werry sleepy
<9> integral: thanks. If it's like $self->{val}, how am I expected to set that value? $self->{val} = "myval" is ok?
<11> integral: Stop being so damned British.
<3> arguile: selectall_hashref will use $key as the key for each record, which references a hash, whose keys are the column names.
<11> integral: Next you will being having stilton and a digestive.
<4> port's not british!
<2> arguile: you want selectall_arrayref({})
<7> Heh, my favorite part about knowing Perl is listening to all the people who don't understand it criticize it.
<2> buu: yeah!
<10> Botje: That give you an array of hashrefs, no?
<7> "I really don't like perl because it's hard to understand [...] I never actually learned it"
<4> Oh, just like maths then
<3> Aye, selectall_arrayref, or, just use something like a while() and fetch each row in turn and build your own datastructure.
<0> hows it go? "don't knock it til you try it"?
<2> arguile: yes, isn't that what you wanted?
<4> I mean, a profession where there's too many people wanting to do research, yet not understood by the general public?!
<10> No, I want a basic hash from two fields, ... ie "SELECT id, name FROM foo" transforms to { id1 => 'name1', id2 => 'name2' }
<2> integral: math is hard.
<12> hola ninos y ninas
<10> I thought there might be a utility method in DBI for it, I guess I'll just do it in two steps
<7> integral: I was thinking more of the "professional linguist" type people
<2> selectall_arrayref("select....",{})->[0]
<2> that returns a hashref
<2> oh blah
<2> nm
<2> i'm too tireded
<12> I need to hit my ODBC connection using perl on a windows machine (activestate). Are there standard modules included in order to do this?
<7> arguile: Er, what?
<4> protron: DBD::ODBC.
<7> arguile: Why on earth wouldn't you want an array?
<12> integral: is it a standard module or do I need to go get it?
<4> protron: Yes, it's standard and is available with any recent copy of CPAN.
<12> integral: sweet. thanks.
<12> integral: ...I don't suppose you could give a quick tutorial? :)
<4> See what I did there? I reinterpreted the question and so didn't lie!
<3> I like hashref for one record, and arrays of hashrefs for more than one!
<11> I like it all crammed into a scalar.
<3> mmm
<12> integral: like, how would I send a SQL statement and retrieve the results?
<7> protron: The documentation has a quick tutorial.
<12> mmmkay
<4> protron: it's just a DBI driver, so it uses the standard interfaces.
<11> fetchall_scalar
<4> I mean, can you call yourself a perl programmer without knowing DBI?!
<3> ...and goatse orgasms.
<13> integral, some people seem to be able to do that... :/
<12> integral: I don't call myself a perl programmer. I call myself a fat noob.
<4> I don't want to know how
<14> "chew" at 213.67.249.214 pasted "Use of implicit split to @_ is deprecated at ./script.pl line 38." (12 lines, 436B) at http://sial.org/pbot/15941
<15> haha..
<10> buu: Because the IDs are INT8 non-sequential ranges and it's being cached for a lot of lookups so hashing directly to that one value is faster. Anyways I'll just do it in two step :)
<15> that was quick
<13> stop using split in a void context.
<4> chew: @something = split; never just split; on its own.
<15> cheers ;)
<12> GumbyBRAIN: shoehorn
<16> protron: They just mailed my to let me dissuade you!
<4> chew: where do you think the result of the split is ending up?!
<7> arguile: That had absolutely nothing to do with it..
<13> $ps = split/\r/, $ps; ==> split returns a list. Not a scalar.
<10> buu: Uhmm... that's why I don't want array...
<7> arguile: You'd have an array of hashes storing your key,value pairs, instead of trying to store an array in a hash..
<2> chew: your ps returns \r ?
<15> i get it now. thanks
<11> integral: Go into Information Theory.
<10> buu: I'm not trying to store an array in a hash, the value is a simple scalar. As I'm only concerned with one field as the value and one as the key that maps to it.
<4> ah, yes, a thesis on where all the information that gets stuck down the back of sofas *really* goes to
<7> Well, your example had two key/value pairs, but anyway, you can select that directly from DBI..
<7> {Slice=>{}} as I recall
<10> buu: Tried both that and Columns => [ordinal number] seperately and together, neither worked. Thanks though.
<17> can anyone point me to some good documentation about how to install perl modules as non root using CPAN?
<4> ------>
<17> man CPAN, and perldoc CPAN are not what I'm looking for
<2> <------
<4> perlbot life with cpan
<18> Information pertaining to the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) can be found at http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/
<3> ^^
<4> VV
<3> \o/
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