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<0> Daveman: no
<1> brilliantly argumentative.
<2> anyone know any manpage/URL with a list of all functions usable wiht arrays? or if someone can tell me how to clear a whole array
<3> Well hobbs you are an extremist with a fragile ego.
<0> ooh, a grue.
<4> we'll be less Friendly for a while I guess
<5> I should just make my ignore list public. I'm batting 700 so far.
<6> :o
<5> Kukla Fran and Olie!
<6> hobbs :)
<2> how do I clear a perl array
<7> perldoc perldata
<8> perldata - Perl data structures. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perldata'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perldata.html
<7> go read, bighead
<6> anyway, thanks for your GREAT help, hobbs :p



<6> perldoc merlyn
<6> :\
<2> melyn thanks
<7> s/me/mer/ :)
<2> =
<2> =)
<9> bighead = parenthesis!
<2> ?
<5> How do I tell vim that '' ought to center the line it jumps to?
<9> cfedde: #vim knows
<9> that sounds complicated
<2> cfedde: http://www.fprintf.net/vimCheatSheet.html
<10> cfedde: :set so=99 hehehe
<6> Hi tybalt...
<5> sili: good point.
<10> Daveman: a) I'm eating b) I have no idea what you're trying to do
<5> tybalt89: perfect!
<9> holy siht
<9> 78mb for intel wireless "drivers"
<5> tybalt89++
<6> tybalt, asdfjkl;
<6> sili: bangin'
<6> sili: you want the three-digit kilobyte, actual drivers?
<10> cfedde: :)
<6> ****ing win32 packages
<6> tybalt, can I pm please? and I didn't know you were eating :)
<9> no one gets in to see the wizard
<9> not no one not no how
<2> guys, does this look good? trying to implement a simple unget solution
<6> confusing
<2> while (($_ = shift @unget_cache) || <> ) { ... }
<2> and in the while loop, whenever I wanna unget, I do "push @unget_cache, $stuff"
<7> beware the values that are false but not undef
<2> hmm
<7> I'd normally just build a queue:
<7> my @queue = <>; while (@queue) { my $item = shift @queue; ... }
<11> how to open a image/jpeg file and convert it to hex? (so I can use it like print OUTJPG chr($byte[0]).chr($byte[1]);)
<12> Hello, I've been away from perl for a couple of years, and I think I've forgotten more than half of it. Where can I find a quick tutorial for programmers, so I can get back up to speed? (There's no FAQ in the topic, so I'll have to ask, sorry!)
<2> kim_: perldoc perlintro
<8> perlintro - Perl introduction for beginners. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perlintro'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlintro.html
<12> thank you
<2> =) you're welcome
<2> so merlyn...yeah but I wouldn't want to read all the input in one go (just a little itch regarding efficiency)
<12> Oh yes! man perl!
<2> kim_ =D
<12> perl reftut, perloo, perlretut, hehe, it's coming back already :-)
<13> troff < /dev/null | $PAGER
<13> s/null/urandom/
<12> One last question: Is there a good graphics library out (like an sdl mapping lib or something?) I've found I (re)learn twice as quick if I can "see" what I'm doing. I didn't do graphics in perl last time I used it.
<7> for the convenience, I woujldn't worrry about it unless you're talking 10,000 lines or more
<11> kim_: perhaps GD library
<7> (for bighead0
<2> ok
<2> I think i'm under that limit =D
<9> if anyone wants to get angry, go to talks.php.net
<2> heh
<9> there's plenty of stuff that's wrong.
<12> I've seen GD before. It'll do in a pinch. Is there more of an SDL-like library? I've used pygame to improve my python skill before. (And java has AWT and Swing, of course, though those are actually less handy)
<14> I am going to make a potato pancake for breakfast I think
<15> you're right, those colors piss me off!
<12> The trick is to be able to change your graphics in real time, so you get direct feedback. It's very motivating. And you always learn more about programming from it :-)



<9> kim_: you could use sdl
<7> you would love Squeak then
<2> merlyn: so is undef really diferent than false? undef not considered a boolean when in context?
<7> undef is false
<9> perlbot: false
<16> false things: @array/%hash if they have no elements, (), "", "0", 0, undef
<7> but so is 0 "" and "0"
<2> so your code I can make
<9> "00" not false.
<9> don't get tricked!
<2> @all_stuff = <>; while ($_ = shift @all_stuff) { }
<9> bighead: that's retarded. you didn't even localize $_.
<12> SDL_perl... hmmm! SDL didn't have primitives like lines and polygons last I looked... ahhhh wait, SDL_gfx
<12> HMM! This might actually be enjoyable
<2> sili: i'm sorry , i'm a little rusty with my perl. localize?
<2> to the while loop?
<12> thank you very much , sili, gob****e, bighead, et al :-)
<2> kim_ np =)
<9> bighead: just don't do that. while(<>){do stuff with $_}
<7> bighead - that's going to stop when you get to a "" or 0
<9> merlyn: wouldn't that depend on his $/
<9> too
<2> merlyn ok...
<17> Daveman, howdy
<9> bighead: bottom line don't do it. while(<>){$_ stuff}
<7> that's why I said use while (@stuff) { ... }
<7> @stuff = <>; while (@stuff) { my $item = shift @stuff; ... }
<7> that won't go wrong if a line of that is false
<12> Hmmmm! With sdl graphics primitives, I should get around to practicing more C++ too! ;-)
<12> very thank you
<9> why is <> being read in all at once if he's immediately disregarding it?
<2> silli all I want was a quick way to get a "unget cache"
<2> so I'm resorting to reading everything first
<7> that's why I keep writing it for you
<7> and then you ignore it. :)
<17> kim_, i wrote some primitives routines for SDL, but not any perl bindings :)
<9> q[ender] knows c?!
<17> sili, "knows C" is a bit... what's the word, generous. but yeah, enough to do damage.
<2> merlyn, oh I got your point regarding how my code would stop at a linen representing a "perl false"
<18> I know q[ender].
<18> (Enough to do damage.)
<19> GumbyBRAIN: beloved Yaakov
<20> i found a nearby indian grocery store, and was wondering if you felt like stealing them.
<17> hahaha
<17> GumbyBRAIN, beloved Andi
<20> and fire came down from heaven, burning as it is to come, the almighty.
<17> :O
<17> OH NOE
<12> q[ender], actually, there's now sdl-gfx
<21> stealing the indians?
<12> I hope installing perl-sdl here will aslo give me perl-bindings for gfx :-)
<18> q[ender]: Find a way to come to YAPC, man!
<9> Yaakov: i was going to go, but i'll be in ph
<9> .ph that is
<9> Yaakov: so i won't have the pleasure of har***ing you.
<17> heh
<17> that's what sili does
<17> har*** people
<18> sili: I am sad clown.
<9> hairussed.
<9> yay.
<22> perlbot: .ph
<16> .ph is Philippines
<17> clowns scare the piss outta me
<19> GumbyBRAIN: are you a clown ?
<20> you don't have to report you to do it not: i am sad clown.
<19> oh the irony.
<12> perl functions have named parameters these days too eh? Does Larry Wall have spies watching Guido van Rossum? :-P
<19> er .. hi, simcop2387 :)
<18> q[ender]: If you don't come to YAPC, and bring the B.A., a clown will kill you in your sleep--but he will wake you up just before he does it.
<17> then it wouldn't really be in my sleep, would it?
<2> is there a != equivalent of =~


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