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<0> Quiznos: there's no good way to do that.
<1> i know c
<2> the C semantics don't map well to Perl.
<1> i doesnt need to be perfect
<1> just the grunt work
<3> merlyn: any experience with EVDO under Linux?
<2> as in, your entire program would be just library calls
<2> so there's not much point
<1> no, lib calls are no good
<2> C doesn't have a native $scalar type
<0> Quiznos: yo might attempt to use the perl compiler and output C. But I suspect you'll be very disapointed in the output.
<2> so to add two scalars, you'd have to call a lib
<1> cfedde k
<2> that's why we're saying - doesn't map well.
<2> the entire program would be Perl bytecodes as lib calls
<2> perlcc does that sort of thing
<0> Quiznos: you can probably pick up enough perl in a few hours to eirhter fix the code you have, or translate it to a different programming environment.
<0> Quiznos: start with perldoc perlintro
<4> perlintro - Perl introduction for beginners. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perlintro'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlintro.html
<2> The best Perl 2 C translator is a human being.
<1> cfedde the script is >200k of perl code
<2> 200k *lines*?
<1> and IMO it's twisted spghetti code
<2> that's not a script. that's a disaster
<1> oops, that's file size
<3> yeah no kidding
<2> the C program would be even worse.
<1> not lines
<2> ides - I don't use linux
<3> merlyn: ah ok, that's right you're a Mac guy if I recall
<2> this card works fine with OSX :)
<0> Quiznos: I feel your pain.
<2> I use OSX and OpenBSD
<1> cfedde wanna share in it? :)
<2> Quiznos - use B::Xref
<2> to get a view of where things are defined and used
<1> merlyn what does that accomplish?
<0> Quiznos: I have plenty of my own pain.
<2> but otherwise, you're just in trouble
<3> merlyn: ah used to be a FreeBSD myself before I ended up having to run all Linux servers a few years ago
<1> cfedde k
<2> sometimes, it's better to start over
<5> Hi
<1> merlyn true
<2> 200K code is probably 20K code + some good CPAN modules
<0> I'm trying to convince myself that I can understand CGI::Prototype.
<2> it's pretty rare to have 200K of *unique* stuff these days
<1> merlyn there are no modules; it's self-contained
<3> ouch yeah run screaming
<2> Right - that's probably a sign that some CPAN modules would have saved a huge amount of code
<2> lots of reinventing of the wheel
<1> possibly
<2> what does it accomplish?
<0> Quiznos: sounds like the developer of that was paid by the line.
<1> it is a FOSS
<2> probably has a few sections that would fit thedailywtf.com
<2> what is "FOSS"
<1> heh
<1> foss=free open software stuff
<1> <Stuff>
<2> Oh - what does it *do*?
<2> I guess you didn't answer that.
<0> Quiznos: that does not arrow down things much.
<1> it's the toast package manager, www.toastball.net/toast
<0> narrow
<2> FOSS covers a lot of ground
<2> 200K of code for that?
<1> cfedde it's free gpl s/w
<2> I imagine my original claim is true
<6> you mean free open-source software? :o
<0> Quiznos: that's what I mean
<2> 20K of original code, and CPAN modules, would have done the whole thing
<1> merlyn it sings, it dances, it does the occasional dishwashing
<2> where is the source?:
<1> merlyn the url is above
<2> and what's yoru goal?
<0> Quiznos: Um.. what is it you want to do with this?
<2> trying to figure out how to fix it?
<1> merlyn to possibly make it more usable; i think it's difficult to optimise perl code
<1> also to make it faster
<2> It's not difficult to optimize *good* perl code
<0> seems like Jacques Frechet is actively working on it. Maybe you should contact him.
<1> or simpler
<2> use Devel::DProf
<2> find the hot spots
<1> cfedde i'll check, thanks
<2> concentrate tehre
<2> are there tests?
<1> no tests afaik
<2> Ugh
<7> hey all, I've been teaching myself perl for a few days now, and I'm looking for a url that might help me with a little problem. I know how to use perl to capture information from a form, but this is only if the form is static. I'm trying to do this with a dynamic form, anyone know of a url that would explain for to capture the values from a html form as an array or hash?
<2> it's *uselss* as FOSS then
<3> merlyn: source is at http://toastball.net/toast/toast
<2> it's basically 1995 crapware
<1> merlyn when it works it works VERY WELL
<1> when it doesnt, it's 200k of urecoverable blocks
<2> ANything can work well some of the time
<2> it's not good unless it works well *all* the time
<1> yea i know
<3> heh just browsed the source, about 10 pages in I found the first comment :)
<1> heh
<2> ... use 5; # oldest version that actually works might be 5.003; not sure....
<0> It does not 'look' too bad: http://www.toastball.net/toast/toast-1.433
<1> how about perl2awk?
<2> ... &the_correct_line_number_for_this_line_is(23); # perl thinks this is line 2..
<2> got this is scary
<1> lol
<2> ... # allow script to run even in the absence of strict.pm, etc.
<2> EEEEEEEEEK!
<1> that's why i called spaghetti code
<2> DANGER WILL ROBISON
<1> :)~
<1> yea
<2> Ugh - uses prototypes everywhere
<1> woop woop ERROR EQUITNOW_ALL_WHO_ENTER_HERE!!!
<1> lol
<2> ok - this is getting more and more scary
<1> you're very welcome
<1> glad to brighten your day!
<8> bnovc: adv_windowlist (formerly wlstat)
<0> sub false() { "" }
<1> basically, i cant make heads, tails or backs of that code
<1> or fronts
<2> heh - cperlmode breaks on it
<1> lol
<1> what about perl2awk?
<9> ironpig: try $cgi->param(). It will return an array of all the CGI parameters.
<9> ironpig: my @params = $cgi->param()
<0> Quiznos: some how you think translating it to awk will make it better?
<3> Quiznos: I'd just find another software package that does what toast does
<1> cfedde lighter weight at least
<0> Quiznos: um.. probably not.
<1> ides yea, i know, but i'm a romantically hopefully
<2> What's your goal?
<1> cfedde k
<2> with this crap?
<2> are you now the maintainer?
<1> make is smaller, leaner, faster, ***ier
<1> god no rofl
<3> Quiznos: well if I opened up my wife and found code like this, I'd be grounds for divorce ;)
<10> rm -f $crap
<0> Quiznos: even if such a tool exists you'd have the overhead of emulating perl datastrucures in a less powerful language
<1> i already confessed to not knowing perl
<1> cfedde that's why i said awk
<9> Hi cfedde, kitchen, merlyn
<0> rindolf: howdy!
<1> a developer doesnt call his lang of choice nor his tool "spaghetti code"
<2> why are you taking this on?
<2> No - I mean, are you *now* the maintainer?
<1> i have a few spare cycles
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