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<0> what cafe doesn't serve java? ;)
<1> guys... remember that arguing about languages is like arguing what color do you prefer :P
<2> amnesiac: it's not an argument about languages
<3> tag: I'd like to discuss it. I don't mind your insults, but other people may be offended by them.
<1> tag: but you love me don't deny it
<1> just because I use Java :P
<1> heh
<3> Supaplex: we serve any drink.
<2> amnesiac: I do love you, but it has nothing to do with Java
<1> yay!
<2> I don't love Java. I just use it.
<1> because I own in PHP?
<4> debian, (g)vim, xfce, perl, irssi, intel
<4> every thing else ****s
<4> :D
<1> o.O
<2> amnesiac: Use PHP. -20 respect points.
<3> Java is too demanding on my configuration. Mono is actually better.
<1> dang!
<2> sparkman: actually intel ****s for a variety of reasons.
<4> nope, it doesn't
<5> amnesiac++ # GREATEST GUY IN SPAIN
<5> Oh, wait...
<3> Does Intel sell Xeons for desktops?
<2> interesting.
<2> Yaakov: mexico
<5> HE ISN'T IN SPAIN
<4> a 180 USD intel cpu can out-perform any amd chip
<1> Yaakov-- # I don't like Spain
<0> as long as nobody like sthe current choice, or there's more then one, we'll usually disagree :)
<6> rindolf: yes, intel doesn't require that Xeons only be used in servers.
<5> amnesiac++ # STILL THE GREATEST GUY IN SPAIN
<2> amnesiac: intel vs. amd wasn't the conversation I had in mind
<2> err
<3> integral: yes, I know.
<2> sparkman: that was meant for you
<3> integral: I just wonder if my machine is a Xeon.
<2> sparkman: My world is much bigger than amd and intel, and yours should be too
<6> I doubt it
<3> integral: the board is 56PERLsomething (ironic, I know).
<1> we all know integral hates Perl
<5> Actually, fxn probably is...
<1> and tag loves buu
<6> hell yes :-)
<1> and buu likes to have *** with sili
<1> :P
<5> amnesiac++ # MEXICAN NINJA
<3> tag: ARM, Alphas, SPARCs, UltraSPARCS, MIPS32, MIPS64, PA-RISC, - just off the top of my head.
<1> Yaakov++ # yay
<3> I wonder how many winnies will know what they are.
<4> tag: well, it was a nice change-of-topic away from any possible drama or arguing :D
<3> Also zSeries (S/390), AS400, RS6000 -- all from IBM.
<1> AS400 == iseries
<3> amnesiac: yes.
<3> The new IBM terminology is confusing.
<3> zSeries, iSeries, xSeries...
<1> pSeries
<1> :)
<3> amnesiac: yes.
<7> serieSeries
<3> sitcomSeries
<7> zParallel
<3> Maybe they're doing it to confuse the customers.
<3> The AS400 OS sounds intriguing. It combines a Database (DB2) a filesystem, etc. into one.
<3> Also has unix emulation.
<8> : --- lem.freenode.net irc.freenode.net :0 Moskow, RU, EU
<8> I guess it doesn't matter that Russia isn't actually in the European Union
<9> perlbot placeholders
<10> You want placeholders: http://www.geekuprising.com/create_better_perl_and_sql_with_placeholders
<11> damn EU huggers kill them all
<9> oy, i'm in the EU :[
<3> Hi Botje
<9> hello, rindolf
<3> Botje: sup?
<5> cfedde: Pain eliminating pills would be better, I think.
<3> Botje: maybe you'd like to prepare the UML diagram of Test::Run for me?
<3> UML confuses me.
<9> and I don't konw Test::Run
<3> Botje: OK.
<9> so I don't know how everything is related
<3> Botje: then I can explain.
<3> Botje: are you familiar with Test::Harness?
<3> "make test", "prove", etc.?
<9> nope
<3> Botje: I see.
<9> I've used Test::More and the other one a few times
<5> How many people here hate me? Let's see hands!
<3> Botje: OK.
<9> Yaakov: why bother with hands? guns will do! ;)
<5> Botje: That's mean.
<9> you know you likee it. :)
<7> how about we compromise. rubber bullets?
<12> wow
<9> OMFG ITS EvanCarroll
<12> It looks like I missed a heated discussion about java's inferiority to better languages like PHP
<12> oh well, I'll catch it next time
<13> hello, pls somebody could point me on the right direction, i want to add perl support to a C++ app
<13> like a scripting engine to the c++ app
<3> I wonder if there's anyway I can get hold of Ken Williams.
<12> google 'embedding perl interpreter into c'
<3> xquestionx: your best bet is pehraps E&EP
<3> perlbot: E&EP
<10> Extending and Embedding Perl - http://www.manning.com/jenness/
<3> xquestionx: I'm sorry that I have to recommend a book.
<12> hahah
<12> manning books aren't that bad now
<3> Which means I'll probably need to revamp the documentation about it.
<3> EvanCarroll: I wasn't saying they are.
<13> thanks both
<3> EvanCarroll: it's just that I'd like a technology to be easy-to-learn even without books.
<13> rindolf... it doesn't seems Sooooo hard.
<3> Are Manning books available as part of Safari.
<9> except for UML.
<9> UML may burn in hell for the suffering it causes people.
<3> Botje: yes.
<13> hahaha
<3> Botje: the UML spec is horrid.
<3> Botje: but the UML book is pretty nice.
<13> go to read, thanks
<9> there's a spec? O_O
<3> Botje: yes.
<3> Botje: stay away.
<3> It's very tiring.
<9> I wrestled through the C++ spec and (X)HTML
<3> Botje: did you learn from the Addison-Wesley book?
<9> rindolf: I think that was the one used in cl***
<3> Botje: OK.
<9> I just picked up sam's UML in 24 hours and read that
<3> Botje: I see.
<3> Botje: was that 24 hours book good?
<9> good enough for my exam, at least
<3> Botje: I see.
<3> Botje: how much did you get?
<9> 9/20
<3> Botje: is it a p***ing grade?
<9> not really
<9> I don't _HAVE_ to retake the exam
<3> Botje: I see.
<9> but will be doing it anyway
<3> Botje: OK.
<3> Botje: maybe you should read the AW book.
<3> But this may be a bit more tedious and confusing.
<3> They talk about buildings there and stuff.
<9> heh, i'll see
<9> still have two months to learn ;)
<3> But it is a good book, especially as a refernece.
<3> Botje: can you bring books to the exam?
<9> no.
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