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<0> sili: let's form the Perlers-who-are-forced-to-work-with-PHP-against-their-will support group.
<1> DrForr_: Yeah, deep hurting.
<0> And start a conspiracy to make PHP more like Perl.
<2> rindolf: I'll join.
<0> mjl69: you're also writing stuff in PHP?
<1> rindolf: Weren't you the one who tried to start a perl fork to make it more like php?
<1> rindolf: Didn't you call it 'rindolf' ?
<0> buu: rindolf was nothing like PHP.
<2> I even write perl that writes php.
<0> buu: http://www.shlomifish.org/rindolf/ # This is the latest spec.
<0> mjl69: heh nice.
<0> mjl69: I wrote a phpgrep thingy in Perl.
<0> I'd better check my email.
<0> Work email, that is.
<2> I used to dream of rewriting the whole project in Perl, but it's just too big and no one really has any interest.
<0> mjl69: yes, our codebase is pretty large too.
<0> mjl69: did you read what "Joel on Software" had to say about it?
<0> perlbot: rub a dub dub
<0> perlbot: rub a dub
<0> perlbot: rub a dub dub is "Rub a dub dub" from "Joel on Software" - http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000348.html
<3> added rub a dub dub to the database
<2> If the language is easy enough, there is more of a chance of intersection of the user set and the developer set.
<2> "Joel on Software"?
<0> mjl69: yes, it's a blog about software management and stuff.
<0> mjl69: it's very famous.
<4> jolene on hardware. mmmm.
<0> merlyn: heh.
<0> merlyn: did you ever write embedded software?
<0> This is one of my favourite articles of Joel - http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html
<0> merlyn: there's a thing on the Internet where Britney Spears explains about Semiconductors.
<0> merlyn: it seems pretty accurate scientifically.
<0> merlyn: I studied it in School.
<0> merlyn: not from this web site, but still.
<0> Well, I guess Britney does not know squat about semiconductors, but the guy who wrote it and attributed it to her did.
<5> Sometimes, I think whoever is in charge of version numbers in the unix world needs to be shot in the head. Twice.
<0> ew73: why?
<0> ew73: version numbers of what?
<5> Stuff.
<0> ew73: like what?
<6> stuff-V3
<7> Hey guys i've recently started learning about perl programming, and want to understand perl sockets, every book i have though and tutorial i can find just covers perl in general i can't find a decent resource about perl sockets,can anyone point me to some or in the right direction please?
<0> I'm using Linux kernel like version numbers. At least the old style.
<4> mindbob - when you ask a question, DO NOT LEAVE
<7> i didnt leave
<4> sure you did
<8> don't bother with sockes, use IO::Socket::INET, be happy.
<7> u didnt answer me?
<6> mindbob: perlipc
<4> I asked you a question
<5> For example, libgal23, version 0.24-7 or libgal2.4?
<4> but you never answered back
<4> and then you left
<0> mindbob: perldoc perlipc
<9> mindbob: Type 'perldoc perlipc' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlipc.html
<7> i did
<4> mindbob - what protocols are you wanting to use?
<0> mindbob: also try reading a tutorial about sockets in C.
<6> mindbob: perldoc IO::Select
<9> mindbob: Type 'perldoc IO::Select' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/IO/Select.html
<0> mindbob: wait a sec.
<4> or web
<7> Meriwether, i said to u tcp/ip
<4> for almost all reasonable protocols, there are libs to handle it
<4> no need to look at the lowest level
<0> mindbob: http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/tutorials/internetworking/internet-theory.html
<10> rindolf's url is at http://xrl.us/o3ss
<7> i wanna like read about it
<7> then play
<4> so what protocols?
<0> mindbob: it was written by someone I know.
<4> TCP/IP isn't an answer there. :)
<7> google
<7> i want to interface with google and irc
<4> there are modules for irc
<7> and also ftp/smtp
<4> and you can't use google except via the API
<7> i don't know howto use modules etc
<4> DO NOT SCRAPE GOOGLE
<4> learn to use modules
<7> how do u use google?
<0> mindbob: yes, learn to use module.
<4> see WWW::Google
<4> in the CPAN
<0> merlyn: isn't it WWW::Search::Google?
<4> But actually, Search::Yahoo is far easier
<4> you don't need a developer key
<4> and the answers seem to make more sense. :)
<7> how do i search cpan for keyword on the command line?
<7> nad is there a command line help like c
<7> man printf etc
<11> mindbob: perldoc perldoc
<9> mindbob: Type 'perldoc perldoc' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perldoc.html
<7> danke
<11> mindbob: man also works, usually. man perldoc, etc.
<2> I have never written embedded software, but I have written software in bed.
<2> uhoh
<12> merlyn: blasphemy!
<4> heh - I know.
<4> but it still works easier
<11> Is Yahoo evil?
<13> Yahoo killed me pa.
<14> i wrote a bit of embedded software :)
<13> only a bit?
<0> zamolxes: I only wrote some VHDL code for a Technion project.
<0> But I would have been lost without my partner who previously worked with Verilog.
<15> does that count as embedded, though? i thought embedded software necessarily required it to remain "software" and run under an embedded system rather than being translated into hardware
<0> Now he's also working for a hardware shop. Something like sofware-embedded in hardware.
<15> i'm probably just being picky
<0> kulp: yes, it's not really Embedded.
<0> kulp: it's even more hardwarey than embedded.
<16> Amazing what FPGAs can do nowadays.
<17> rindolf: yeah, i've done a little verilog myself :-)
<0> kulp: OK.
<13> I want an FPGA that can run Perl
<14> friedo: too many opcodes :)
<14> friedo: you mean parrot i guess :)
<13> bah
<11> I want a discete transistor wirewrapped machine that runs perl.
<11> r
<6> Yaakov: WHY?
<14> well from that to a teleporter is a single easy step :)
<11> tybalt89: So I can say I have it.
<13> you can say you have it right now
<18> I'm looking for a good website that I would want to visit three times a week, could someone recommend one that is worth visiting that often?
<14> AI_coder: your average tgp :)
<12> friedo: make one - that's what FPGA's are for, right? :)
<16> AI_coder: playboy.com
<12> AI_coder: metafilter
<14> aminaked
<12> zamolxes: sounds like someone's been boba'ing for furni over @ habo...
<0> AI_coder: can't you use an RSS/Atom feed and an RSS reader?
<6> Yaakov: What discrete transistor wirewrapped machines do you currently have?
<0> I'd better go to sleep.
<11> tybalt89: Well, I could have had a PDP-8.
<0> I'll work on File-Find-Object tomorrow.
<11> tybalt89: But... my Wife... objected.
<11> It was plexigl***.
<6> Yaakov: smart wife :)
<0> Yaakov: now you can have a PDP-8 emulator, which will run much faster.
<11> You could see everyting.
<11> h
<19> what's the best/easiest web proxy system to set up?
<19> (for unix...)
<13> probably CGIproxy
<13> but mod_proxy is pretty easy to configure once you have your own Apache going
<13> it's also more secure
<20> Does Cache::File provide a callback I can set to be used on expired objects before they are deleted?
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