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<0> i'm a bit zoned out tonight ;) been thinking too hard tonight <1> GumbyBRAIN: I WANT *** NOW <2> simcop2387: You get two fxs and get my *** when i want now. <3> rindolf is aware of my opinions. no need to repeat them. <3> and I never really object to people. I object to actions. <0> i don't remember what happened <0> I just thought it was funny <3> rindolf has on multiple occasions pulled a "not invented here" move that I believed would fragment the community unnecessarily. <3> actually - I have nothing against Hitler the man. However, I object to his actions, certainly. <0> i wish the perl community was more united like the rail one <0> rail's really been taking off <3> it's just new and shiny <0> I meant ruby <0> RUBY! <0> i need sleep
<3> there will always be more people hacking Perl than ruby <3> by far <4> That's because Ruby is absolutely non-standard. <4> Perl is widely used. :P <4> Which, personally, I have no problem with. <3> what does "non-standard" mean in that sentence? <3> perl and ruby are both "non-standard" :) <5> merlyn: so far <3> eh ? <3> that's a nonsense statement. :) <5> ruby is nice. perl .. isn't nice, but imo it's more useful (at the moment) <3> what's "not nice" about Perl that is "nice" about Ruby? <6> ruby is elephant, whereas perl is mastadon! Both are large, questionably hairy, and have four legs! The rest shall be inferred. <5> ew73: exactly <3> you guys are making no sense. <6> It's like comparing apples and umbrellas! All you have to do is open them up and look inside. <0> lol <4> Haha. <4> By non-standard I meant unused by mainstream apps as often as possible. <3> Oh - so you mean "popular" <3> that makes sense <4> Perl is VERY mainstream. Ruby is avoided if it can be. <4> Well, sort of. <3> yes. Perl is far more popular. <3> as I said. larger community, more programmers. <4> Ruby seems to cause more problems than resolution (usually). <3> well - that doesn't make any sense <3> Ruby doesn't *cause* problems. <3> Maybe ruby programmers cause problems. :) <4> It does when standard coders can't play with apps that don't work. <4> Haha. <4> Well, yeah. <7> ... <4> But, all programmers cause problems. <5> yeah. i peeked into #ruby-lang one time. they were scared of regexes. and chaining list operations. and fast code. <4> I suppose the "popular" statement stands. <5> and generally, they seemed like dopes compared to here. <7> everyone knows perl folks are l33t hax0rs <3> & zzz <4> encryptio: That's because they want to create something that will overcome Perl. Which, in my opinion, won't happen. <7> no community is complete without condescending ***holes though <4> Not because the language is inferior. Just because it doesn't have enough of a following to overtake it. <4> Perl is nice. *shrug* <5> sili: thus, buu <4> No need to replace it. <7> encryptio: buu's more of a ****head than a condescending ***hole <4> Haha. <4> I don't mind buu so much. <5> hmm... who would you call a condescending ***hole then? <8> ME! <9> Ruby does not cl*** as a language inferior to Perl. <0> that's like peeking into #perl and seeing rindolf and going "well all perl programmers are jewish" <7> ayrnieu: language inferiority is so subjective <4> ayrnieu: It certainly doesn't cl*** as a language superior. <9> sili - yes. So listen to me: I am right. <7> ayrnieu: everything is right when you're wearing the right goggles <5> PerlPanda: you obviously don't see what i did - i stayed in there for about 5 days, watching and occasionally scaring the crowds with regexes <5> it was fun. =p <9> sili - yes, the 'right' goggles. Read me instead of reading into me, and what I say will make more sense. <4> regexes is ALMOST one of the best things to happen to any language ever. <5> agreed
<4> Well, maybe not that hardcore. But, still... Works wonders. <1> GumbyBRAIN: Lupus induced kidney failure <2> simcop2387: Java isn't as short as ?status=good, it's a cop when he died of kidney failure. <5> sili: ah - that guy who keeps getting banned and keeps avoiding it - evancarrol, iirc. is he a condescending ***hole or just a simple ***hole? <9> actually, no, ruby cl***es as inferior to Perl as a language in several ways, by capability. <4> ayrnieu: What are you trying to defend exactly? <7> encryptio: he's mostly annoying <9> ek - read me instead of reading into me, and what I say will make more sense. <4> ayrnieu: Well, I've seen what you've said. Ruby wasn't inferior, now it is. <5> hmm. i guess i don't know the "condescending ***hole" of which you speak. <4> Different circumstances of course. <4> But, either way. Just curious. <7> encryptio: i think the condescending ***hole types are those who try to tell other people how to be. the ones that think because they've got a lot of knowledge can treat people like poop <10> say, anyone know a good channel for Java noobs? <7> #php <4> yibai: #Java doesn't work out? <4> :P <8> sili: reminds me of Somni. <1> GumbyBRAIN: go search mrs. nympho <2> simcop2387: Dropped mrs off at poe::filter::reference... Which is way off the command run as root all they have to search the array with a hot oven grinder. <10> ek: nope, oddly enough <7> infi: he's decent sometimes <4> yibai: I'm not surprised. You'll usually find more help somewhere system-based around here. If someone's available, they'll help. <8> not to talk behind his back, but when he was in here, the mood was much different I thought. <7> it's happyland without ***holes. <5> ah, but without ***holes, would there be a happyland? <4> Or a Happy-Meal? <4> :P <5> god, that sounded sooo perverted <8> heh <4> Haha. Yeah, I suppose it did. <4> But, Ronald is still a ****. <9> ek - correcting myself. "Ruby is inferior, as a language, in several ways." -- but anyone can see that they can't be extremely important just by learning a bit of Ruby. The inferiorities that occured to me are regexes and typeglobs and edgecasy sort of things where Perl happens to be useful. Think of that "Why I am not a fan of Java" article on perl.com <11> how do i match "<=" ? <5> /<=/ <11> nope <11> doesn't work <4> ayrnieu: Ah. Okay. Sorry. I didn't mean to make you type out an excuse. <5> try fixing the other stuff then <4> I understand what you mean though. <9> eval: 2 if "<=" =~ /<=/ <12> ayrnieu: Return: 2 <11> what is return 2? <11> 2 chars matched? <9> testor - read my code. <11> read my code <4> Erm.. <11> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MXT9XF50.html <13> The paste MXT9XF50 has been moved to http://erxz.com/pb/982 <11> try it <4> buubot's always on top of things. <8> eval: "goat" if "<=" =~ /<=/ <12> infi: Return: goat <11> doesn't match <8> t35t0r: get it? <11> then what's wrong with the code i showed? <7> the logic <9> testor - it fails to match for some other reason than "<=" requiring antics to match, because that doesn't require any such antics. So what's your new question? <11> eval: "goatse.cx" if ""[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1)" =~ /\[blocks B.+?\]\s+<=/ <12> t35t0r: String found where operator expected at (eval 111) line 1, at end of line (Missing operator before ?) Error: Can't find string terminator '"' anywhere before EOF at (eval 111) line 1. <4> Yeah. I fail to see how <= would have anything to do with it actually. <11> eval: "goatse.cx" if "[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1)" =~ /\[blocks B.+?\]\s+<=/ <12> t35t0r: Return: goatse.cx <11> uhhh <11> why is exactly what i typed not working in the pl script? <11> but it worked in the eval here <11> ahh <11> ****e on me!! <11> i have to double escape the damn thing <11> nm <11> go back to goatse.cx <1> cool! cacafire behind a transparent X-Chat, look sooo cool <1> cacaplas is even cooler, but soooo psychadelic <11> now it will work
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