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<0> i'm a bit zoned out tonight ;) been thinking too hard tonight
<1> GumbyBRAIN: I WANT *** NOW
<2> simcop2387: You get two fxs and get my *** when i want now.
<3> rindolf is aware of my opinions. no need to repeat them.
<3> and I never really object to people. I object to actions.
<0> i don't remember what happened
<0> I just thought it was funny
<3> rindolf has on multiple occasions pulled a "not invented here" move that I believed would fragment the community unnecessarily.
<3> actually - I have nothing against Hitler the man. However, I object to his actions, certainly.
<0> i wish the perl community was more united like the rail one
<0> rail's really been taking off
<3> it's just new and shiny
<0> I meant ruby
<0> RUBY!
<0> i need sleep



<3> there will always be more people hacking Perl than ruby
<3> by far
<4> That's because Ruby is absolutely non-standard.
<4> Perl is widely used. :P
<4> Which, personally, I have no problem with.
<3> what does "non-standard" mean in that sentence?
<3> perl and ruby are both "non-standard" :)
<5> merlyn: so far
<3> eh ?
<3> that's a nonsense statement. :)
<5> ruby is nice. perl .. isn't nice, but imo it's more useful (at the moment)
<3> what's "not nice" about Perl that is "nice" about Ruby?
<6> ruby is elephant, whereas perl is mastadon! Both are large, questionably hairy, and have four legs! The rest shall be inferred.
<5> ew73: exactly
<3> you guys are making no sense.
<6> It's like comparing apples and umbrellas! All you have to do is open them up and look inside.
<0> lol
<4> Haha.
<4> By non-standard I meant unused by mainstream apps as often as possible.
<3> Oh - so you mean "popular"
<3> that makes sense
<4> Perl is VERY mainstream. Ruby is avoided if it can be.
<4> Well, sort of.
<3> yes. Perl is far more popular.
<3> as I said. larger community, more programmers.
<4> Ruby seems to cause more problems than resolution (usually).
<3> well - that doesn't make any sense
<3> Ruby doesn't *cause* problems.
<3> Maybe ruby programmers cause problems. :)
<4> It does when standard coders can't play with apps that don't work.
<4> Haha.
<4> Well, yeah.
<7> ...
<4> But, all programmers cause problems.
<5> yeah. i peeked into #ruby-lang one time. they were scared of regexes. and chaining list operations. and fast code.
<4> I suppose the "popular" statement stands.
<5> and generally, they seemed like dopes compared to here.
<7> everyone knows perl folks are l33t hax0rs
<3> & zzz
<4> encryptio: That's because they want to create something that will overcome Perl. Which, in my opinion, won't happen.
<7> no community is complete without condescending ***holes though
<4> Not because the language is inferior. Just because it doesn't have enough of a following to overtake it.
<4> Perl is nice. *shrug*
<5> sili: thus, buu
<4> No need to replace it.
<7> encryptio: buu's more of a ****head than a condescending ***hole
<4> Haha.
<4> I don't mind buu so much.
<5> hmm... who would you call a condescending ***hole then?
<8> ME!
<9> Ruby does not cl*** as a language inferior to Perl.
<0> that's like peeking into #perl and seeing rindolf and going "well all perl programmers are jewish"
<7> ayrnieu: language inferiority is so subjective
<4> ayrnieu: It certainly doesn't cl*** as a language superior.
<9> sili - yes. So listen to me: I am right.
<7> ayrnieu: everything is right when you're wearing the right goggles
<5> PerlPanda: you obviously don't see what i did - i stayed in there for about 5 days, watching and occasionally scaring the crowds with regexes
<5> it was fun. =p
<9> sili - yes, the 'right' goggles. Read me instead of reading into me, and what I say will make more sense.
<4> regexes is ALMOST one of the best things to happen to any language ever.
<5> agreed



<4> Well, maybe not that hardcore. But, still... Works wonders.
<1> GumbyBRAIN: Lupus induced kidney failure
<2> simcop2387: Java isn't as short as ?status=good, it's a cop when he died of kidney failure.
<5> sili: ah - that guy who keeps getting banned and keeps avoiding it - evancarrol, iirc. is he a condescending ***hole or just a simple ***hole?
<9> actually, no, ruby cl***es as inferior to Perl as a language in several ways, by capability.
<4> ayrnieu: What are you trying to defend exactly?
<7> encryptio: he's mostly annoying
<9> ek - read me instead of reading into me, and what I say will make more sense.
<4> ayrnieu: Well, I've seen what you've said. Ruby wasn't inferior, now it is.
<5> hmm. i guess i don't know the "condescending ***hole" of which you speak.
<4> Different circumstances of course.
<4> But, either way. Just curious.
<7> encryptio: i think the condescending ***hole types are those who try to tell other people how to be. the ones that think because they've got a lot of knowledge can treat people like poop
<10> say, anyone know a good channel for Java noobs?
<7> #php
<4> yibai: #Java doesn't work out?
<4> :P
<8> sili: reminds me of Somni.
<1> GumbyBRAIN: go search mrs. nympho
<2> simcop2387: Dropped mrs off at poe::filter::reference... Which is way off the command run as root all they have to search the array with a hot oven grinder.
<10> ek: nope, oddly enough
<7> infi: he's decent sometimes
<4> yibai: I'm not surprised. You'll usually find more help somewhere system-based around here. If someone's available, they'll help.
<8> not to talk behind his back, but when he was in here, the mood was much different I thought.
<7> it's happyland without ***holes.
<5> ah, but without ***holes, would there be a happyland?
<4> Or a Happy-Meal?
<4> :P
<5> god, that sounded sooo perverted
<8> heh
<4> Haha. Yeah, I suppose it did.
<4> But, Ronald is still a ****.
<9> ek - correcting myself. "Ruby is inferior, as a language, in several ways." -- but anyone can see that they can't be extremely important just by learning a bit of Ruby. The inferiorities that occured to me are regexes and typeglobs and edgecasy sort of things where Perl happens to be useful. Think of that "Why I am not a fan of Java" article on perl.com
<11> how do i match "<=" ?
<5> /<=/
<11> nope
<11> doesn't work
<4> ayrnieu: Ah. Okay. Sorry. I didn't mean to make you type out an excuse.
<5> try fixing the other stuff then
<4> I understand what you mean though.
<9> eval: 2 if "<=" =~ /<=/
<12> ayrnieu: Return: 2
<11> what is return 2?
<11> 2 chars matched?
<9> testor - read my code.
<11> read my code
<4> Erm..
<11> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MXT9XF50.html
<13> The paste MXT9XF50 has been moved to http://erxz.com/pb/982
<11> try it
<4> buubot's always on top of things.
<8> eval: "goat" if "<=" =~ /<=/
<12> infi: Return: goat
<11> doesn't match
<8> t35t0r: get it?
<11> then what's wrong with the code i showed?
<7> the logic
<9> testor - it fails to match for some other reason than "<=" requiring antics to match, because that doesn't require any such antics. So what's your new question?
<11> eval: "goatse.cx" if ""[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1)" =~ /\[blocks B.+?\]\s+<=/
<12> t35t0r: String found where operator expected at (eval 111) line 1, at end of line (Missing operator before ?) Error: Can't find string terminator '"' anywhere before EOF at (eval 111) line 1.
<4> Yeah. I fail to see how <= would have anything to do with it actually.
<11> eval: "goatse.cx" if "[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1)" =~ /\[blocks B.+?\]\s+<=/
<12> t35t0r: Return: goatse.cx
<11> uhhh
<11> why is exactly what i typed not working in the pl script?
<11> but it worked in the eval here
<11> ahh
<11> ****e on me!!
<11> i have to double escape the damn thing
<11> nm
<11> go back to goatse.cx
<1> cool! cacafire behind a transparent X-Chat, look sooo cool
<1> cacaplas is even cooler, but soooo psychadelic
<11> now it will work


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