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<0> urthen: (a) $1 won't print anything unless you have a paren group, (b) you need a for loop (c) you need a /g on the end of the regexp match
<1> Bill_N1VUX: tybalt89 used a Jaquard system!
<2> so anyway, i shouldn't switch to ruby then :)
<0> well, a for loop or while loop, depending on how you write it
<1> e1f: Learn Ruby, for sure.
<1> e1f: See if you like it.
<1> e1f: You might like it better.
<2> yeah, i was thinking of getting the oreilly book
<3> "the"
<4> I've held actual Jaquard cards ... the textile museum left some behind when our Printing Museum took over the building.
<2> did you keep them?
<2> i have one computer punchcard
<4> elf: IIRC, we were still trying to return them to the owner.
<2> i foound it in an old computer text
<2> Supaplex: hm?
<5> I can speak now
<4> Somewhere I've got several whole box of cards ... including a Snoopy calendar.
<4> and lots of paper tape
<6> bring ecarroll back! woo
<7> thrig: not that one!
<8> eh, I'll ban 'em again if they show up
<2> we weren't allowed to print calendars. they were taken off the print queue
<2> bastards
<4> I'm sure my 9-track tapes from college have had all the bits fall off by now.
<2> no, they should be fine
<5> remove bans in pastebin and stop flooding
<5> :P
<2> mag tapes are quite reliable
<2> magnetic storage is best for archival
<2> if you can find a reader
<4> well, I reused these when the data center was discarding them ... and they've sat 25 years ...
<2> maybe the computer history museum
<2> should be fine
<9> and when you have layers upon layers of tape sitting next to each other for long enough, weird things do eventually happen
<4> I knew a guy who had one of each tape machine ever made in his office, had a great media transfer business
<4> hobbs: that's what I'd heard
<1> "print through"
<2> as long as it's stored properly
<2> yes
<2> that can happen
<1> Manufacturers only certify tape for five years.
<9> Bill_N1VUX: although the older stuff has "fatter" bits and less sensitive media, so it's probably safer ;)
<10> mag tape has problems too. the media oxidizes and becomes brittle.
<1> "spall"
<1> I have Windows 1.0 on 3.5" floppies.
<8> then there's the problem of "we don't know what this format on the tape is"
<1> I don't have a lot of hope they can be read.
<4> yeah, you should sell 'em on eBay
<1> I have a sealed NT 3.51, too.
<10> if they were in their origional package that'd be cool.
<1> And some other relics.
<9> too bad I lost my set of DeskMate floppies ;)
<1> I have Windows/286 on 5.25" floppies.
<4> I've got Lotus Symphony disks around someplace.
<10> I have coherent286 on 5.25. Does that count?
<1> Also, Word and Excel, 1.x's.
<4> the commercial Zork (Advent, collosal cave) for the TRS80 iii might be collectable ?
<4> Word 1.x, that was ugly
<1> Beat Ami Pro, which I was using.
<1> Used Windows 2.11 runtime.
<1> But I had the full installation of Windows.
<10> how about a complete trs80 system. Complete with visicalc, several compilers on audio c***etes and a few sixel games?
<4> Back in the day of Ami Pro / Word 1.x, I was very happy with TROFF ...
<1> At the time, Hercules graphics on an amber monitor.
<10> I was using troff in those days.
<10> and tex
<11> I was just too young to care.
<10> TeX sorry.
<1> cfedde: The TRS-80 video ram decays... have you fired it up lately?
<2> tex on a trs80?
<10> Yaakov: not in decades
<10> e1f: I used the trs80 as a terminal to get to the unix box at work
<4> Yaakov - Oh I remember Hercs ... we still have a Olivetti/AT&T/Xerox 80186 system with HERC ...
<1> You might find lots of little @'s where other things are expected.
<1> I had a TURBO XT, Baby.
<12> http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ # why would anyone reccommend this.... BARF BARF BARF
<1> Upgraded my C64.
<2> cfedde: wow
<2> sili_: remember he was drunk when he wrote thar
<9> sili_: it's all about the cartoon foxes, er, I mean, "synergy"
<12> DIE
<12> e1f: that's an interesting article
<10> enough about the olden days.
<12> e1f: though there are major points which i disagree with.
<9> "Addiction is like pokmon!" "Let's collect every cigarette ever."
<4> uh oh, gotta go ....
<13> okay, how do i output the raw byte corresponding to an int in the 0-255 range?
<14> chr()
<13> uh $chr() is in which package?
<15> CORE:: ?
<8> it's a function, not $chr
<5> my scrotum
<1> Cl***ic.
<9> thrig ftw
<16> Yay!
<15> my Scrotum $chr = \&chr;
<15> or something
<16> perl6!
<15> buu: how's star trek comming along?
<15> buu: perl5 too
<16> avar: Data busted him up.
<15> as in
<15> sub method {
<12> i think i'm going to go love ruby
<15> my Cl***Name $self = shift;
<1> sili_: Why?
<2> buu is writing star trek game in perl?
<6> thank you thrig. I love you.
<12> Yaakov: because of the hype
<16> No
<12> Yaakov: and because p6 isn't here yet.
<15> *ahem*
<1> Ah, well drink a lot of coffee if you want to use Ruby on Rails.
<12> no, hyped frameworks are always ****
<15> what is RoR about anyway?
<1> It seems to be a pre-requisite.
<12> i don't think there is an exception to that rule.
<9> sili_: Ruby looks cool, I started trying to pick it up, but it's just too quirky. It tries to be some sort of hyperperl ;)
<15> Just a web dev api?
<1> sili_: Have you seen the Ruby on Rails demo?
<1> (video)
<12> Yaakov: nope
<15> Yaakov: I've seen that, and it makes no sense
<2> yeah. builds web infrastructure
<16> RoR is a hideous idea
<1> It is on the RUby site, it requires high blood levels of caffiene to follow.
<15> I tried ror for 5 mins sometime, it created like 5000 source files in my web dir which included a web server
<15> wtf?
<16> If your language requires code generators, you should be shot
<12> hobbs: just judging by what i've seen, ruby has some... really ****ed up syntax. it feels like the syntax is there just for the sake of having syntax
<9> sili_: yeah
<16> sili_: Sounds familiar
<17> :(
<9> sili_: things like @vars and @VARS and @@vars
<16> foo {|a| print a}
<2> it was designed to genuinely piss us off
<9> buu: actually I like that one :)
<15> yeah that doesn't make any sense
<16> It's not that weird.
<15> (0..10).each { |i| puts i }
<16> foo { say $^a } #perl
<15> it should be (0..10).each |i| { puts i } or something
<2> that's ruby?
<18> No; I believe the |i| is on the inside there
<15> magic word being "should"
<15> no, that's not ruby
<9> for (0..10) -> $i { say $i } # more closely equivalent p6
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