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<0> emulation may result in either. :)
<1> merlyn: Was it a goofy felony like CAN-SPAM?
<0> AI_coder - http://www.lightlink.com/fors/
<1> No way, you wrote that book?
<1> Good job :D
<0> perlbot, merlyn's books
<2> camel 1+2, llama 1+2+3+4, alpaca 1+2, gecko, shiny ball (EPP), Perls of Wisdom
<0> perlbot, merlyn's columns
<2> unix review (65 and counting), linux magazine (84 and counting), web techniques (70), perl journal (14), freely available at http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/columns.html
<0> "that book"?
<0> which one
<3> The Debbie Does Dallas novelization, I suspect
<0> heh
<1> merlyn: You know that makes me sick to my stomach that you were convicted of three felonies.
<1> merlyn: Who do you want me to write to and complain?
<0> you can imagine how *I* feel. :)



<1> If that would make it worse, I'll just not vote for someone.
<4> hurray for pr0n!
<1> You know the legal system is like a virus, it's not living but it destroys life and makes everyone miserable.
<5> you mean "we don't know if it's living or not"
<6> stuuf: maybe you don't
<1> Yep, that is the last time I ever try to tamper with someone's p***words.
<0> I sang with teh karaoke kj - he was looking for an opening song
<1> I heard about unauthorized access of computers carries some ridiculously high and impossible to pay off fine.
<1> I don't understand how those laws are made.
<3> kj/
<0> I had 5 years probation, 480 hours of community service, 67K in restitution
<3> ?
<0> and I had to pay about $250K total
<0> not counting lost wages. etg
<3> :-(
<0> this is why I am not rich. :)
<3> did you at least get your voting rights restored?
<0> My voting rights were never taken away
<0> and yet I'm a felon for the rest of my life
<0> only 9 states remove voting rights
<0> not mine
<1> You know people are sick that attack others for no other reason than to destroy them.
<1> I have a friend like that.
<0> I will never know the precise motivation of Intel
<0> but I can speculate that it's because I embarssed them
<1> Yep, you embar***ed someone with money and they knew the rules, and possibly made them for just that reason.
<0> the largest employer in oregon too
<1> You know it's ridiculous that this needs to be brought up "The prohibition against vague criminal laws rests upon various constitutional grounds."
<1> It's like lord of the flies.
<0> welcome to america. here's your defense atty. :)
<0> oh - you can't afford one? here's your jail cell.
<0> and now we'll spend $70K/year to send you to criminal school
<0> so that next tiem you won't get caught as quickly
<1> criminal school?
<0> "prison"
<7> heh
<1> I thought that is what you meant.
<0> where criminals teach each other how to do it better
<1> hehe
<0> they compare notes about how they got caught, and what they know
<0> and set up coaltitions
<7> there are also people in prison that get law degrees apparently
<0> coalitions
<0> right - so they can be defense lawyers
<0> and help their new buddies out
<0> my legal team was very clear about the role of prisons in our society
<0> being criminal defense lawyers. :)
<8> be glad you didn't end up in criminal school, then
<1> Is this role the one that you just described?
<0> Yup
<9> that's interesting, i've never heard a lawyers opinion about prison i ngeneral
<8> merlyn, are you still paying that off?
<9> mostly because i didn' thave $500 a hour to hear them!
<0> yeah - andI'm very glad I didn't end up in criminal and bottom school. :)
<0> that's the other aspect of it that wouldn't be very fun
<9> we're glad you're not there too!
<9> heh
<8> that's such a horrid price, all of it was very unfair
<8> have you published or written your side of the story somewhere?
<1> As much as I dislike the prison and injustice system, I don't think it's a conspiracy theory like setup where they compare notes and not get caught as quick being the role that prisons serve.



<0> there was a recent podcast
<0> lemme find it
<8> sounds like the kind of topic an author could make a book out of
<0> ... http://www.securitycatalyst.com/?p=110
<10> hello
<1> zshzn: I would buy merlyn's book.
<0> I have far more than one book :)
<0> I wonder why people always talk about it like just one book?
<11> merlyn: do you get paid for subscriptions to the O'Reilly bookshelf?
<1> merlyn: hehe, don't get a big head, I was talking about the one you would write about injustice in computer crimes.
<8> merlyn: I mean on this topic
<9> i'm sure the new scare culture of terr'r isn't helping form reasonable penalties for 'computer crime'
<1> Oh you mean communism for the new millenium?
<1> We have to go into 2+++ with something better than the old wore out scape goats like racism, drugs, poverty, communism, ***ism, witch hunts, etc.
<1> I like the way this guy uses naughty words: http://atl***hrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/02/google_gagging_.html
<12> AI_coder's url is at http://xrl.us/ncbt
<7> there is a GD::Image::Thumbnail and a Image::GD::Thumbnail
<0> I don't get direct money for safari, no
<8> merlyn: geez, you sound a little frustrated in this podcast ;p
<0> but it's figured in through all of everything
<0> actually - I think I get a flat payoff
<11> merlyn: no offense, but it sounds like o'reilly gives their authors the run-around
<0> less than anyone else. :)
<13> no royalties on safari? But they have a per use fee. Don't you get your cut of that?
<0> at least O'Reilly was founded by authors
<0> unlike some of the other companies
<0> for whom books are merely a profit center
<1> Is the podcast available for a regular media player like mplayer or xine?
<0> it's an mp3
<8> download the mp3
<0> there's a download link I think
<8> yep, right there. its what I chose
<0> I dunno... it just shows up for me in itunes
<0> itunes++
<0> apple++ for Just Working
<0> karma apple
<1> Does anyone have the mp3 url available to post here?
<0> dude - it's on that page
<8> http://www.securitycatalyst.com/wp-content/plugins/podpress/web/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zZWN1cml0eWNhdGF***N0LmNvbS9wb2RjYXN0cy8vU0MtMzEtMjAwNjA2MTEubXAz/SC-31-20060611.mp3
<12> zshzn's url is at http://xrl.us/ncbv
<0> the web. operate it. :)
<0> What the hell with that URL??!
<0> do you think they actually typed that?
<0> or is it the sha1 of the content? :)
<13> listened to Tim talk about opensource with Dan Bricklin. Pretty much his standard fair.
<8> don't blame me merlyn
<0> heh
<0> not blamin' you
<0> I blame the Catalyst guy. :)
<0> or wordpress
<8> the host's voice is quite...jumpy. annoying
<13> big urls like that are just silly.
<13> who needs that much state?
<0> I like xrl.us :)
<0> the State Department. :)
<10> is 200USD for EWR to CHI roundtrip good?
<3> ewr?
<0> but if you feel sorry for my legal case, I accept paypal at merlyn@stonehenge.com
<10> not getting any better, right?/
<8> heh
<0> I would not otherwise solicit that. :)
<14> perlbot airport EWR
<10> newark,nj to chicago,il
<0> that sounds good
<3> oh. I was thinking to china :-)
<14> damn, Chris still hasn't added airport codes to perlbot :~(
<0> I'm paying $900 (!) for pdx to buf to ord to pdx
<0> for that price, I could go to rio!
<13> jdv79: I'm paying 177 denver to mdw
<10> ew
<0> or europe


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