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<0> Yaakov: "The job's not done until you've found someone to blame."
<1> I know he was saying some stupid things. What I mean is, that's no reason to be even worse ourselves.
<2> If we attack beginners having trouble we are no better than #perl on MAGnet!
<3> beth, you understand that bored people thrive on drama. that's all that happened
<4> beth: I also agree with yuo.
<5> I think it's the accumulated craziness though
<6> Yaakov++
<5> He seems to get more and more confrontational for no reason.
<5> well - the reason being an XYZ problem
<7> "A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle
<7> of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day."
<1> yeah, I know
<6> I've been attacked on both channels:)
<8> Stereo!
<9> GumbyBRAIN: make samba compile faster
<10> It is substantially faster if you want out of the compile time options, though, what about control characters?
<1> 2 or 3 times today there have been ***holes starting fights in here, and it turns out their problem was that they had a question, didn't understand the answers, and when somebody talked to them civilly they calmed down, got their answer, and went away
<1> I don't think it's coincidence.
<11> Is a quadraphone a device for listening to squares?
<2> yrlnry: It is most useful for calling common areas on college campuses.
<9> DrForr_: i prefer Krustophenia
<2> yrlnry: Did you like my limerick?
<11> What limerick?
<6> beth: stop spreading the insanity!
<2> The one I pointed out on the other #perl!
<1> jdv79: I think it's too late
<2> BETH IS RIGHT, HEAR HER.
<3> what kind of beer
<2> yrlnry: I wanted you to see my limerick!
<1> bring me some!
<6> yrlnry: grab a few as well please
<9> we could all use a little alcohol probably
<4> o/~ Don't play that song
<4> That "Achy Breaky" song
<4> The most annoying song I know
<4> And if you play that song
<4> That "Achy Breaky" song
<4> I might blow up my radio, ooo..."
<9> cfedde: oh god i hate that song
<11> Yaakov: show me now.
<1> SIX LINES OF PASTE! TO THE DUNGEON WITH YOU!
<2> < Yaakov> There was a retardo named Mark / whose bite wasn't bad as his bark
<2> / if you asked something lame, he would answer with flame / or at
<2> least a sarcastic remark.
<4> /kb cfeedde
<11> The second line doesn't scan.
<12> btw, beth i don't think INC is going to work
<2> yrlnry: I read it fine.
<12> the hash doesn't give any absolute paths
<1> what's the problem, pbelau ?
<12> well i shouldn't say any
<12> but doesn't give an absolute path for the relevant .pm
<13> o/' Don't find that heart / That telly taley heart / And if you find that heart / That telly taley heart / You'll probably find out I killed the man o/;
<2> yrlnry: Anyway, in your honor.
<11> Oh, I see. You omitted the gramatically required word "as", and I supplied it unintentionaly.
<11> Well, thanks.
<7> racist!
<14> sombody can tell me if there is a module in perl for multimedia ?
<1> pbelau, it should. Use a pastebot to show us the output?
<2> How do you know that pbelau is a baby?! Agist!
<1> use Data::Dumper; print Dumper \%INC;
<7> I have to stop hanging around in #Politics, all those conspiracy nuts get me in a combative mood
<12> beth, key is Piczo/Operations/Config.pm
<15> dkr: Kill them dead.
<12> beth, that's the one value i'm interestred in
<15> eval: \%INC
<16> buu: {'Net/DNS/RR/NS.pm' => '/usr/lib/perl5/Net/DNS/RR/NS.pm','HTML/TokeParser/Simple/Token/Tag.pm' => '/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7/HTML/TokeParser/Simple/Token/Tag.pm','norris.pm' => 'norris.pm','Gu
<11> Yaakov: http://www.plover.com/~mjd/misc/nothing-to-say
<5> pbelau - you want something relative to your main script?
<15> The paths are of course relative to the path of your perl script
<5> I think we've already told you how to do that.
<1> pbelau: yes, but what value goes with that key?
<2> yrlnry: Thanks!
<15> Which you can trivially find with FindBin
<15> I swear we said this once. Or twice.
<1> psst he wants a file relative to the module
<11> sure.
<14> no ?
<6> what's norris.pm?
<15> beth: Sure, you can use the path from INC + FindBin to determine the path to the module
<15> jdv79: wankit
<5> even simpler, use __FILE__ while *in* the module
<5> and that's *also* been pointed out too
<15> merlyn: Well, yeah
<12> i don't know anything abotu __FILE__
<15> hrm
<5> pbelau - I said it before
<15> eval: __FILE__
<16> buu: (eval 177)
<5> my $config_file = dirname(__FILE__)."/some_config_file";
<15> Useless.
<12> what is __FILE__ ?
<15> merlyn: You actually need to munge it a tad
<5> it's the pathname to the current file
<6> i believe its all relative folks - i tried to solve his very problem maybe 2 months ago
<5> if you then OPEN the file right then, you can read it
<12> merlyn, that's exactly what i was looking for
<3> pbelau, time for you to learn some perl
<17> pbelau: can I ask a question here?
<7> jdv79: use norris; makes it so that your script applies brute force algorithms in O(1)
<18> Hi yrlnry
<5> open my $c, dirname(__FILE__)."/some_config_file";
<2> yrlnry: Thanks, I have to think about the story.
<5> then you can read from $c
<15> merlyn: File::Foo::Bar..
<2> mangle: frappe
<16> frappe
<5> for module Foo/Bar.pm, that'll open Foo/some_config_file
<17> What do you want to have happen? Forget about perl ****ing, what you've tried, how you feel.
<5> buu - eh?
<12> merlyn, is there any documentation for __File__
<15> merlyn: Nothing!
<5> pbelau - it's in Perlsyn
<5> I think
<5> I dunno
<5> it was in the One Original Perl manpage
<5> buu - what's the perldoc searcher?
<15> perldata maybe
<4> too bad noone maintains One Original Perl manpage for current perl
<15> yeah
<19> sounds like perldata to me.
<15> perldoc perldata
<5> but basically, __FILE__ is the name of the current file, although it might be relative to cwd
<16> Type 'perldoc perldata' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perldata.html
<5> if you need absolute name, you can mangle it
<19> one could, of course, grep the docs...
<5> buubot has a perldoc grepper
<5> but I don't recall what the trigger is
<15> merlyn: Just on -q
<12> merlyn, well getting the cwd is easy
<5> oh - on -q
<7> perldoc -r __FILE
<5> pbelau - you won't need to cwd mangle it IF you do the read like I just said
<15> perldoc -q __FILE__
<16> Sorry, no matches found
<15> =/
<15> It just does a faq search
<5> if you look at __FILE__ while the module is being read, then you are in the right relative/absolute namespace
<2> < merlyn> pbelau - you won't need to cwd mangle it IF you do the read like I just said
<5> unless you do some funky chdir in your BEGIN block somewhere. :)
<7> -r been running on my box for over a minute alerady now, :)
<2> GAH
<20> copters
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