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<0> rindolf: OK... have added entry to ChangeLog. I guess it's all yours now. :)
<1> LeoNerd: OK.
<2> Though if it's your first time in CPAN you'll be asked to set it up.
<1> LeoNerd: I'll svn up.
<3> anyone recommend a good MUD client for unix?
<4> POE
<5> doesn't one usually use telnet?
<3> (text based with mccp would be nice. And *NO* I AM NOT WRITING MY OWN!)
<2> TinyFugue?
<3> is tf still the only decent one?
<2> Beats me, I haven't MUDed in a few years.
<3> bah, I guess I should just learn Term::Visual, and someone did wrap Net::Telnet for POE
<1> integral: for what kinds of MUDs?
<1> Not that I know of any such client.
<3> rindolf: dw is the only one I use
<1> integral: OK.
<2> Amusingly POE ws designed initially to be a MUD client, never got around to actually doing it.
<3> DrForr_: s/client// :-)
<2> Well, that too...
<1> I think Roman gave a presentation about MUDs and Perl to Israel.PM.
<6> I've used tf for muds before
<3> it's like 6 years old. totally like ancient, dude!
<1> http://www.perl.org.il/meetings/2005/20050811.html - the presentation's not online.
<2> Hurf. Last time I set up Lambda was... '94?
<1> LeoNerd: revision 1213 - you've been busy. Earlier today it was 1201 or so.
<1> LeoNerd: good work.
<1> perlbot: good perlbot
<7> <purrrrrrr /> <woof /> <tail-wag />
<0> rindolf: I believe in properly atomically splitting up changes. Each new feature in its own commit. and so on...
<0> I don't like the "one commit for today's work" stuff.
<1> LeoNerd: yes, that's good I suppose.
<1> LeoNerd: you forgot to update the MANIFEST for some of the examples, though.
<3> a commit should be a convenient unit to revert imho
<1> I was told there's a way to auto-generate the MANIFEST.
<0> rindolf: oops. you're right.
<1> But I'd rather not rely on it.
<1> LeoNerd: that's OK, I updated it.
<1> LeoNerd: well I guess I can upload this to CPAN.
<0> Ooh. :)
<0> Excitement.
<1> vim is too lame for editing the ChangeLog. I need gvim for that.
<2> rindolf: 'make manifest'?
<8> does anyone know of a log for perl, so I could see which scripts are getting executed?
<8> maybe a wrapper
<4> There was a lad called himself integral / who's studies were of things mathematical / though he tried to attend, in his cl***es, in the end / he found he had problems quite blepharal.
<0> Hrm... I suspect I'd find that funnier if I knew what the word "blepharal" means.
<1> DrForr_: yes. Or ./Build manifest.
<3> ditto
<1> Yaakov: what's blepharal?
<1> .define blepharal
<9> can somebody tell me what's wrong with this?
<9> ($username, $p***word, $uid, $gid, NULL, $home, $shell) = split(/:/);
<3> steve: the NULL.
<8> ping?
<3> You just made that up.
<9> integral: what should it be instead?
<3> undef
<9> thanks
<4> integral: Do you like my limerick?
<5> that was a limerick?
<3> certainly.
<4> Heh.
<4> I was thinking heavy.
<4> But it works both ways, considering.
<4> genio: You should learn several new words everyday--eventually you will forget how to speak so others can understand you.
<2> I got there a long time ago :)
<10> It will be a while before I get there. I used to hate to read, so now I have a lot of catching up to do.
<1> Yaakov: heh
<10> mangle: It will be a while before I get there. I used to hate to read, so now I have a lot of catching up to do.
<11> It control be a stretch early I psych out there. I secondhand to malevolent to seize the meaning, so avant-garde I cozen a astral influences of intriguing up to do.
<10> I must learn the ways of the buubot
<0> Woo. :)
<1> Yaakov: this learn new words a day quote has entered my fortunes collection.
<1> LeoNerd: :-)
<8> does anyone know of a log for perl, so I could see which scripts are getting executed?
<1> LeoNerd: now let's see if it crashes and burn.
<3> patch perlmain.c!
<1> LeoNerd: do you have any other ideas for Error.pm?
<0> rindolf: Heh.. :) I hope not... I spent quite a while designing that 08warndie.t file.
<8> hmm interesting
<0> rindolf: well, a small collection of generic useful exception cl***es, maybe.. E.g. the one to capture $! automatically...
<8> integral: is there a patch already or maybe a wrapper that executes perl but writes the command line to a file?
<1> LeoNerd: that may be more suitable as a different module.
<1> LeoNerd: a different CPAN distro that is.
<1> LeoNerd: feel free to put it in the web-cpan svn repository.
<0> rindolf: Yeah, maybe... Error-Exceptions ?
<1> LeoNerd: but maybe you should upload it to PAUSE.
<0> Well, I only have one at the moment, but I'll keep them in mind.
<1> LeoNerd: or Error-SubCl***es
<0> rindolf: I decided inthe end I do liek your _init() approach... but there's a bit missing from it
<1> But that maybe more generic.
<1> LeoNerd: OK.
<0> rindolf: I decided that actually, exceptions can quite often be multiple cl***es. E.g. SystemException and FileNotFoundException and ConfigNotFoundException and.... if we got a ENOENT while open()ing our config file.
<3> iceroff: mv /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl.real; cat >/usr/bin/perl; chmod +x /usr/bin/perl
<1> LeoNerd: I'd like to make a Perlmonks meditation about it.
<0> So allowing the _init() style would be nice.... $e->isa() is then fixed, as is catch... But... we need a way to ensure "$e" looks right.
<1> I've been meaning to email my OnLAMP.com editor about an email I sent him and he didn't reply to.
<3> iceroff: with contents: #!/bin/sh \n echo foo >>log \n /usr/bin/perl.real "$@"
<0> rindolf: Somehow, all the cl*** types that the exception is all need to work together to build the error text.
<12> hello question does anyone know how to install Net::SCP::Expect when using gentoo 'emerge' any idea/
<12> ?
<13> perl -MCPAN
<13> --eshell
<14> cpan Net::SCP::Expect
<15> xcoyote: you probably want to use g-cpan
<13> or that
<2> 'cpan Net::SCP::Expect' # But be aware that you'll be asked some questions on first-time setup.
<14> xcoyote: cpan -i Net::SCP::Expect
<15> for gentoo, use g-cpan
<12> thx
<16> how can i open a file and append the '#' charachter to every while i output it
<16> line*
<16> to the beginning that is.
<17> can I trap SIGTERM using $SIG{SIGTERM} = sub {..}?
<0> $SIG{TERM} = sub { ... }
<0> No leading "SIG" on the signal name
<17> LeoNerd: Can I also trap SIGKILL?
<0> No. KILL and STOP are untrappable
<18> question: is it possible to run a perl script on multiple CPUs
<0> SIGTERM is like someone asking you to commit suicide. SIGKILL is them holding a .44 Magnum to your head and doing the job themself.
<0> You can always refuse the former. You can't help the latter.
<8> integral: that seems to work when i do perl script.pl, but not when script.pl has #!/usr/bin/perl as interpreter
<1> LeoNerd: OK.
<19> LeoNerd: usually
<0> Without using List::Util, what's the easiest way to sum a list of numbers?
<3> iceroff: oh, good point
<1> LeoNerd: did you finish school?
<19> some survive the shot to the head :)
<1> LeoNerd: I mean university or college.
<0> rindolf: Graduated Uni. 3 years ago. :)
<17> There is a program called Pskill.exe released by Sysinternals (for Windows). I need to know if it's doing a kill -9
<17> They haven't released the source code for it.
<1> LeoNerd: I see.
<1> LeoNerd: CS?
<0> rindolf: Maths+CS at Cambridge, UK.
<1> LeoNerd: any plans for a Ph.D or an M.Sc.
<1> LeoNerd: nice.
<1> LeoNerd: integral is now studying Maths at Cambridge.
<2> kapputu: I don't think Windows uses signals the same way UNIX does.
<0> rindolf: nahh... All through the 3rd year I got bored with the theoretical bits.. I wanted much more practical stuff... I'd rather sit and code, than theorise.
<3> well, not right this minute
<1> LeoNerd: OK.
<1> LeoNerd: I don't mind theory.
<0> integral: ahh. interesting... I occasionally visit Camb. from time to time - you'll have to wave. I still know a fair number of people there.
<1> LeoNerd: but I didn't like a lot of the studies.
<1> integral: are you on vacation?
<0> rindolf: Oh, a certain amount of theory is useful.. complexity cl***es, type analysis, and so on... But they went a bit extreme there.
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