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<0> it'll be rare to have names like t or something else wierd which may also be valid utf8...
<0> (well, what I wrote is utf8, but you get the idea)
<1> So there is no true way of telling if an string is utf8 encoded? Maybe a regexp?
<2> danip: dondelelcaro told you how to tell if a string is valid utf-8
<2> danip: as it happens, a lot of valid utf-8 is also valid iso-8859-1 and, for that matter, valid koi8-r and valid iso-8859-2 and so on
<2> danip: however, the reverse is not true. most valid iso-8859-1 and koi8-r and iso-8859-5 and so on is _not_ valid utf-8. so if something _is_ valid utf-8, it was probably intended to be utf-8 all along
<3> does anyone have an example of Config::Auto?
<4> I need a way to shuffle the lines of a file that is over 75 million lines long with out taking up an extraordinary amount of memory, any ideas?
<5> lol
<6> I don't think there's anything better in this world than a grilled cheese sandwich made with extra salty yellow american cheese.
<1> peterS: The problem is that Ive got a latin1 string that utf8::valid() gives true, and when decoding it, I get: Wide character in print at ...
<7> how do I add "--testp***word=<p***word>" to /usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install "DBD::mysql"' `?
<5> what's "american" cheese?
<6> blondie: It's a few steps above Velveta.
<5> what'a velveta? :P
<6> For that, there is google.
<0> blondie: somewhere between milk and chedar
<5> o.O
<6> It's um. Cheese. SOrt of. It's usually quite processed. Extra salty, and sometimes, it comes in individually wrapped slices.
<2> danip: that's your tough luck, I guess. this is why you should strictly enforce encoding rules on strings, so you'll always know what they are. if a string is valid in two different encodings, you just have to guess wildly.
<5> ew73: looks like plastic?
<6> blondie: Kinda of. Melts easily.
<5> is it very yellow?
<5> and a bit sticky
<2> usually, yes
<6> Depends. Usually.
<2> sometimes it's close to white, though
<2> as if to fool you into thinking it is provolone. bastards.
<5> I hate those slices... they always break in half when you unwrap them
<5> anyway, I only eat cheddar c.c
<5> though, I shouldn't eat any cheese at all :(
<2> some people actually _choose_ American cheese for deli sandwiches, when Swiss and Provolone are available for the same price. This is a thing I do not think I'll ever understand.
<5> deli sandwiches?
<6> According to wikipedia, it is a cl*** of 'processed cheese' that is made from the scraps of "real" cheese when slicing it into blocks for packaging. It's emulsified, salt, and wonder is added, along with lots of extra "flavorings" are added.
<2> like at Subway or its imitators
<5> oh, that's not a deli :)
<6> A deli has sausages hanging from ropes.
<2> not strictly speaking, no. but people would do the same at a deli if given the choice.
<2> the point is, people eat american cheese even when real cheese costs the same. it's amazing.
<6> I came into 2 pounds of yellow american because the deli counter at the grocery store was selling it for $1.99/lb.
<6> Compared with say, swiss at 4.99/lb.
<5> 2 dollars/pound seems about right
<5> 2 U.S. dollars = 1.08571739 British pounds ;)
<6> Damn brits.
<2> so 1 pound per pound
<5> we don't use pounds for food
<8> That's cheap for cheese.
<6> Just wait till we get a sane president. We'll have that back to USD = .9-something
<8> Quite so... 545g is what we use. :)
<2> no, I don't suppose you use pounds for much of anything except pounds Sterling
<5> (or anything)
<5> well yes those :)
<2> LeoNerd: 450g you mean, or close to that
<6> "pound" is just a fun word to say in reference to the weight of food, though.
<8> Er.. yes.. What's 545 again?
<6> There's something oddly satisfying about saying you've purchased five pounds of granola.
<8> It's not mls, because 1pt = 568ml
<2> I don't know offhand what conversion unit 545 is
<2> the Italians apparently measure food with a unit of 'etto', a hectogram (100g)
<2> so a pound of something would be '4 etti e mezzo'
<2> presumably a quarter-pound burger would be rounded down to an 'ettoburger' or something
<6> They don't call it a quarter pounder with cheese. THey call it a "Royale With Cheese"
<2> regardless, ew73, I bet they don't put american cheese on that thing
<2> only americans would stand for that
<6> Probably not. We love our salt and processed cruft.
<9> where is that rascle?
<8> Over there...
<10> mangle: talking to Ralph on the big white telephone
<11> plain-spoken to Ralph on the roomy whitewash ring
<10> mangle: talking to Ralph on the big white telephone
<11> comment to Ralph on the apotheosized silveriness phone
<10> mangle: Good morning everyone! I love each one of you in a special way!
<11> dinkum morning everyman! I potency all person of I myself in a underground suchness!
<12> hi all
<9> Yaakov, was it you I was talking to a few days ago about XML?
<10> DoctorMO: I have spoken about XML...
<12> how do I do remove perl?
<10> Delete it.
<12> make uninstall
<12> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop.
<6> I wouldn't recomend it.
<9> AkiraYuki, why would you want to?
<13> Remove Perl?
<13> Simple. Remove your operating system.
<14> I just compiled Math::Pari with pari-2.3.0, and doing "use Math::Pari;" gives a segfault.
<10> You can delete the binary and the perl libraries.
<13> ayaz: what version of perl?
<10> But perl is kind of expecgted on Unixy system, it could cause trouble.
<6> Like when you use apt.
<10> Even without the 'g'.
<13> s/could/will/;
<15> Hi all.
<15> LeoNerd: here?
<10> Ani-_: It is possible to have a working machine without perl, even if that makes you twitchy.
<14> Ani-_: 5.8.7
<8> Yes... but just about to head to work...
<8> rindolf: PM me anyway and I'll read it and reply when I get there
<13> Yaakov: proove it! remove perl from your system. :)
<10> Ani-_: I need perl, but not everyone does.
<13> Silly me. s/proove/proof/ :(
<10> prove
<13> Bah!
<10> You were closer the first time.
<10> mangle: groovy intention
<11> ducky long-range plan
<10> mangle: groovy intention
<11> wizard meaning
<10> mangle: groovy intention
<11> just dandy schematization
<14> Hm. I fell back to pari-2.1.7, and compiling Math::Pari with it gives a "cc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)" error. Hmm.
<5> TOO COOL
<6> Oh, in case you're wondering.. apt-cache rdepends perl | wc -l yeilds 1731.
<12> DoctorMO, I want to remove the old version and compile the new one
<9> AkiraYuki, Compile the new version, it'll replace the old one
<16> hi
<6> (618 if you get rid of all the -perl packages)
<10> AkiraYuki: You don't need to do that.
<16> I need to print postscript file, but I don't know how to handle accents !
<10> gui: People can't help it if they talk funny--but you shouldn't let it upset you so much that you can't work.,
<12> ok tnx :-)
<10> AkiraYuki: Which OS?
<12> Slackware
<10> AkiraYuki: You can just build the new perl and it will know what to do.
<15> LeoNerd: OK,
<12> however it is bad that perl cannot be removed from the system
<6> AkiraYuki: Unless you have a system from 1980, perl is a basic requirement.
<6> It's like complaining that you can't remove 'tar'.
<17> if you just need a decent amount of software i think there will be no problem with removing
<18> also decent systems have "package managers", and surely everyone does some form of change management...
<15> ew73: I always wanted to remove init.
<19> all init does is make me do work...
<18> rindolf: initramfs looks to be getting there finally
<15> integral: OK.
<15> Someone told me about someone who was new to Linux, and had a space shortage, so he browsed the filesystem trying to see if there's anything he can remove.
<15> So he saw /etc and decided that since it's "et cetera", it's probably not important so he rm -fr'ed it.
<17> heh
<15> I think he had to re-install afterwards.
<15> I used to always work as root when I started using Linux.
<15> But I grew out of it.
<6> I tend to use sudo. At least then I'm a little more aware of when I'm about to do something stupid.
<15> ew73: I'm using su or su -.
<15> Quite often in fact.
<18> Back in my day we had nothing but root and we liked it. We didn't have no shutdown either, we had to push our init manually from one runlevel to another in the snow uphill.
<15> integral: heh.
<15> Yay! ^^^
<18> All hail NIH!
<18> ew73: it's detected that your karma is out of balance and needs some adjustment
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