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<0> buu: I don't even see in Curses.pm where it links to the library at all. It's just a normal module, not linked to anything.
<1> i have no idea how many decimals "require" considers significant though
<2> dabreegster: Er, what needs it then?
<0> buu: I'm going to attempt to make my Curses-dependant game playable on a Windows box without my friends having to install libraries.
<2> dabreegster: Specifically
<2> But I'm pretty sure par will do it
<1> dabreegster, why would you make a curses based game ? :)
<3> pbelau: You could just try it.
<1> opengl not good enough for you ?
<0> pbelau: It's a roguelike!
<0> buu: OK. I'll mess with it.
<0> pbelau: A bit... unnecessary.
<4> I'm stepping through @ARGV using foreach. how do I tell if I'm on the last element?
<1> yeah, but opengl is probably more portable than curses :)
<2> StevenR: Keep a count.
<5> StevenR - you can't
<6> dabreegster: you don't see the various -lncurses -lcurses in Curses.pm's Makefile.PL? :)
<1> and more pleasant to use
<2> StevenR: Or just set a flag and check after the loop finishes
<0> pbelau: I should really emulate curses with SDL, but I don't feel like it.
<5> for my $id (0..$#ARGV) { my $item = $ARGV[$id]; if ($id == $#ARGV) { ... last one ... } }
<0> Khisanth: Ah, that'd be it. I don't remember compiling my Curses module. :P
<1> curses should die
<7> pbelau: it's using v-strings, so it should work with any length. But screwing with the version number doesn't seem like a highly sensible idea to me
<2> hobbs: But it's pbelau for you
<7> pbelau: the most obvious concern is: what happens when you install a module that does "require 5.8.9" ?
<1> hobbs, well if perl really were downward compatible with CPAN modules it wouldn't be necessary
<4> ok.. thanks folks :)
<2> hobbs: SEE?!
<1> the problem is that theory doesn't quite correspond with reality in the perl world
<7> yeah
<8> mangle: grave frippery
<9> sepulture gingerbread
<8> mangle: grave frippery
<2> Yaakov: Please save me from the pbelau.
<9> intense fig
<7> pbelau: Why the hell do you continue coming here?
<8> intense fig!
<8> mangle: grave frippery
<9> cramping ornamentation
<1> hobbs, to annoy you
<7> pbelau: please find somewhere to go where the people WANT to be treated like idiots
<10> hobbs: /ignore does work. :-)
<1> yeah, i suggest that you use it
<1> i already have some of you jack***es on it
<7> he still wastes my bandwidth
<8> Hello, hobbs.
<7> llo Yaakov
<8> hobbs: mangle: grave frippery
<9> exit duplication of effort
<8> hobbs: mangle: grave frippery
<9> sepulchral payroll padding
<7> keep it
<8> Heh.
<11> any komodo users in the house?
<11> i keep getting lockups w/ 3.5 professional, and i'm suspecting that it's nfs related...
<12> hmm, what's the best way to determine the current script's filename on a win32 binary? my $filename = __FILE__; or my $filename = $0; or what?
<13> $0 is the name that was used to execute the program. __FILE__ is the name of the current file, module etc.
<8> hobbs: It gave me "biological death fig"./
<7> haha
<12> cfedde: so $0 ?
<7> sparkman: no, probably not
<12> ok, so __FILE__ or something else?
<11> sparkman: what are you doing w/ it?
<14> well __FILE__ will give you the current scripts filename, which is what you asked for - but whether that's what you want or not, different story..
<13> hobbs: why would it not be $0?
<7> cfedde: I just didn't think it was what he was asking for
<12> shift8: store it?
<13> hobbs: ok.
<11> sparkman: ok...
<5> & enroute to thousandoaks.pm to watch damian go nuts
<13> sparkman: most of the time people use $0 since it is what things like ps and top display
<12> heh
<13> __FILE__ is interesting to loggers so that developers can find where the message was generated.
<11> and __LINE__
<13> shift8: indeed
<11> so - no one uses komodo? guess these random lockups are why :)
<12> yeah, i don't care for komodo
<12> gvim works nicely :)
<7> sparkman: $0 is useful for logging a general idea of "what app am I?" but not much more
<11> yeah, yeah :)
<7> sparkman: if that's what you want, you're in business :)
<12> all i want is the filename of the currently execupte script
<12> so i think $0 will do
<7> $0 isn't exactly a filename
<8> mangle: spiny puff
<9> tricky oxygen mask
<12> oh?
<8> mangle: spiny puff
<9> acanthoid powder puff
<8> mangle: spiny puff
<9> thorny gather
<7> sparkman: well, say you install your script somewhere in my PATH (/home/dquayle/bin), and I run "potatoe", which is the name of your script
<7> sparkman: $0 is "potatoe"
<12> ok
<7> $0 is _the name the script was invoked as_
<12> this is gonna be a win32binary (par) btw
<7> sparkman: in that case, give it some testing, see if the value of $0 is something useful to you. I don't know offhand what PAR might do :)
<11> haha - thorny gather! i love the mangle thing.
<11> mangle: grainy peepshow
<9> wimpled peepshow
<11> mangle: doopid blorapope
<9> doopid blorapope
<15> mangle: Is there a way to spawn a certain number of child processes, and then spawning a new one after each finishes? :)
<9> Is there a ingress to give birth to a not in error divide of teener processes, and later spawning a lately simple subsequent severally finishes? :)
<16> mangle: to be or not to be, that is the question. whether 'tis nobler to live or to die
<9> to be or not to be, that is the text. whether 'tis nobler to dig or to conk
<1> mangle: i like titties and beer
<9> i gloat over titties and beer
<17> . o ( whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows... )
<18> Does anyone know how I can go about issuing a rollback in a custom error handler using DBI? the HandleError => $coderef, only p***es the offending statement handle, so I can't issue a $dbh->rollback? Any way to get the database handle knowing only the statement handle?
<16> flecto: you could create a closure
<17> Have your handler capture $dbh at creation time?
<17> C<my $dbh; $dbh = connect(..., HandleError => sub { $dbh->disconnect });
<16> eval: $a = [ 4, sub { $a->[0]++ } ]; $a->[1]->(); $a->[0]
<9> Botje: 5
<18> ok guys - that gives me some good direction...thanks a bunch
<16> eval: use strict; my $a = [ 4, sub { $a->[0]++ } ]; $a->[1]->(); $a->[0]
<9> Botje: 4
<16> bummer.
<17> my $a; $a = ... ; # $a isn't defined inside the scope of the closure.
<16> I know. I was just testing ;)
<19> shazbot
<20> SLUT LUTMAN
<21> i a new to these dynamic languages,mainly use c++/c# i would like to know what benefits do they offer
<22> Ryugi, less coding.
<23> much, much less coding :)
<21> ok
<21> i have seen both perl and python, what are the difference between them
<24> How cr*** of an answer are you looking for?
<24> By the sound of that question, very.
<16> python is named after a snake and perl after a gem
<16> NEXT!
<0> Ooh, it overwrites files. If your input is script, script is now an executable. perl2exe--
<24> That doesn't make sense. It would have to name it .exe.
<24> Oh, they have non-Windows versions now
<24> nm
<0> It didn't. I'm on Linux.
<0> Yeah. I'm actually gonna see if I can get it to generate a win32 binary though. That's the whole point.
<21> b0at:the reason why i ask is that i see alot of perl vs python articles on the internet and they are complaining that the syntax is horrible and saying python is better
<23> Ryugi: write perl for a while, see for yourself...
<24> I wish there was a succinct way to characterize that attitude besides "would rather use batch files than a programming language"
<21> i wrote a hello world app and it looks like c
<24> Because they glance at it and make ***umptions about each
<24> Ryugi: Do you know C? Maybe you're writing Perl with a C accent.
<21> yeah i know C
<24> perl -e'print "Hello, world."'
<23> perl -le 'print "Hello, World."'
<23> # doesn't look much like C to me...
<21> print("hello world")
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