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<0> like, did you know that the "pseudocode" in _Design Patterns_ *ISN'T*. It is smalltalk.
<1> integral: Just remember, in C, put semicolons EVERYWHERE. If you're not sure, ADD ANOTHER ONE!
<0> of course, you get idiots on perlmonks who don't think you can do trailing commas in C
<2> haha
<2> semicolon after every command, just like perl.
<0> I leave them out most of the time in perl
<2> well, formal perl.
<2> you leave out your semicolons?
<0> hmm, I should organise a public book burning. I wonder if I can get funding from the student union...
<3> integral: that'll probably send a very bad message to some people
<1> I object on Montag-ian grounds.
<2> what book would you burn?
<2> hmm, a whole program with no semicolons....that could get ugly.
<0> aww come on, what's wrong with running off to live in the woods?!
<0> hmm, that'd solve unemployment
<2> thoreau did that, it twisted his mind.



<2> <blink> is though...
<3> 4.01 is dated anyway
<0> it's better than XHTML which no one can remember how to serve
<2> <marquee><blink> is evil.
<0> and it has SGML optimisations turned on
<0> (well, *some* at least)
<0> personally I think we should just all use TEI SGML for all our documents
<3> eh.
<2> plaintext!
<2> ascii art should be on the comeback.
<1> I think my favorite thing ever is the Rants and Raves section on Craigslist.
<0> Why do I have a PDF of Goertzel's Algorithm open?
<3> because you're a m***ochistic academic
<0> I can't even remember what it is! either it's some specific FT optimisation, or an algorithm for drawing lines (I remember looking up Bresenham at the same time...)
<4> So anyway, MOTHER ****ER.
<4> That really hurt
<4> Yay stupidity
<0> so, <h1 cl***="masthead"> or <div cl***="masthead"><h1></div> ?
<5> The latter is more useful.
<0> I suppose
<5> Some people say h1 shouldn't be a one-per-page heading at all.
<0> of course
<5> Just make head visible and use title!
<0> XHTML 2.0 does that, except by moving <title> into the body
<6> hi
<4> integral: The first!
<4> And yay
<4> Stupidity is winning
<4> But my closet is humming
<4> So yay!
<0> bah, I'll just write my css so *both* work.
<4> I wonder what the heat levels are like
<5> And then some people claim that div shouldn't be used as a generic container, which just isn't practical, and doesn't buy you anything anyway
<7> :/
<7> Does anyone know if there is a way to p*** a variable into the scope of a loop?
<0> I'm using it to designate my page into sections: masthead, footer, etc
<0> they're not paragraphs, they're not tables, they're just related content
<5> Well, that's the most semantic use of a div
<0> bah, bloody HTML, you can't put <script> inside <tr>
<0> But it's document.write'ing <td>'s!
<4> dude
<5> document.write ****s
<4> document.write isn't xhtml
<4> You lamer.
<0> I'm using HTML 4.01 you noob!
<4> HBow the **** do I umount a nfs drive
<0> umount
<4> "error, system or resource busy"
<3> are you in the directory
<3> or if you're ballsy, umount -f
<4> umount -f gives same error
<4> It's a "hung" nfs mount
<3> just like me!
<0> /dev/kmem, and gdb
<0> works everytime
<4> wtf?
<4> Oh
<4> lesee
<8> Where can I find documentation on what paramerts I can give for example tr td in the CGI.pm modules.



<4> Yeah I had a shell open in there
<4> How silly.
<0> lsof(1)
<7> Anyone?
<8> For example how get I table rows with alternating colors.
<4> Glanzmann: In the CGI.pm documentation!
<8> I searched in there.
<4> pingu: Your question made no sense.
<4> Glanzmann: It's in there!
<7> Well.
<9> css
<7> If I have a variable, say $i
<7> Then call a foreach
<4> pingu: Loops open a new scope. They inhert everything in the current scope.
<7> They do? :O
<7> Then something here is broken :/
<7> Thanks :D
<4> Yes
<9> perlbot: coping with scoping
<10> Coping with Scoping - http://perl.plover.com/FAQs/Namespaces.html
<4> HALLO BINGILY BING
<9> hi.
<4> how goes?
<9> ****ing powercuts and dodgy UPS.
<4> really?
<11> At least you _have_ a ups.
<4> I just set up a new ups
<4> dec: I'm running two =/
<9> last my wonderful uptime
<9> s/last/lost/
<4> Awhh, poor baby
<9> 9:52AM up 19 mins, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
<9> =[
<4> Heh, I have a windows box that goes down whenever I touch the keyboard cable
<11> buu - can I have one? :)
<4> I should probably look into that
<4> dec: They're both full =/
<11> :(
<4> BinGOs: what was wrong with your ups?
<4> dec: They're really not that expensive
<9> it didn't up
<7> That doesn't seem to be the case.
<4> eval: my $x = 42; for( 0..10 ) { print "X: $x " }
<12> buu: X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 X: 42 Return:
<9> ho-hum.
<4> Any other questions?
<11> buu - Yeah, but I'm either a) poor or b) have better things to spend my money on :)
<4> dec: It's like $40 =/
<9> GumbyBRAIN?
<13> BinGOs: Therefore, we usually do not remember that his "disposition was rather more than half a dozen of them, as though endeavoring to gain admittance.
<4> There's nothing quite as satisfying as watching your lights flicker but your computer stay on
<1> buu: But buu..
<4> BUT EW
<1> When the lights go out, so does the internet connection.
<4> What makes you think that?
<1> The **** outside your house is most likely on the same circuit that just exploded.
<4> Naw, they just flicker
<4> Power issue
<7> Gah! The loop definately isn't inheriting the scope of it's caller :'(
<7> It is mean't to work that way, isn't it?
<4> pingu: YES IT IS.
<4> pingu: I JUST DEMONSTRATED THIS.
<4> Hrm. How do I make teh debian talk to teh ups?
<3> connect the thing
<3> usb or whatever you got
<0> umm, your POTS line should be on a backup battery at the exchange
<0> buu: NUT
<4> integral: Eh?
<0> it's software called NUT
<0> Network UPS Tools
<0> it talks to UPSen
<4> Um


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