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<0> not really .. XML is a very easy way to arrange
<1> Gar
<2> XML is very easy way for text editors and man-text editors
<2> :-)
<3> or woman-text editors
<2> or bots-text editors
<4> PeterThoeny: why does TWiki/Search.pm fork grep?
<5> PeterThoeny of twiki fame?
<6> merlyn: perhaps you should try that /whois thing from time to time as well! :P
<4> $ fgrep -c '/(.*)/' Search.pm
<5> Yeah, I think so
<4> 3
<7> bod: because of speed
<4> it is faster to fork/exec another program rather than to do the search in perl?
<7> forking grep to search 10k files is faster than perl open files with grep
<5> provided you have the right grep



<4> we've had some grief with that. some loon created a topic with & in the title
<4> plays merry hell with grep @topics
<7> we tried to do all in perl, but benchmarks have shown that the fork to external grep was faster :-/
<5> Eek - if that's the case, then you can do some bad damage with a grep
<5> like a security hole
<7> merlyn: yes me is from twiki.org
<4> merlyn: see my grep for untainting above
<5> a topic with `rm -rf /` would be bad news
<8> hi
<5> heng - greetings from stonehenge. :)
<7> merlyn: that is taken care of, we have a sandbox
<8> haha, thanks, merlyn :-)
<8> let me check any new article on your site or not, hehe
<5> I need to get the RSS feeds published a little more obviously
<8> good idea, make sure we know the url of that so that we can track it in the reader, like google desktop :-)
<5> well - LM is at http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/lm.rss
<5> that's been there for a few years
<5> the other one that gets published is http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/UnixReview/ur.rss
<5> Yaakov - what is p3m/member ?
<8> thanks, add it in :-)
<1> merlyn: www.p3m.org
<5> oh - perlmongers!
<1> Yes.
<9> :D
<5> how do I get a p3m cloak?
<10> merlyn: blow somni I think
<1> merlyn: Just sign up and I will take care of it right away.
<5> ahh - ok
<1> I will get an email.
<10> Yay p3m.
<11> a p3m cloak and wizard hat?
<5> Hmm. p3m sent me a p***word, but there's no place to log in on the site. :)
<10> buubot: mangle
<0> buu: Yay p3m.
<10> buubot: mangle
<0> buu: 1.) is NO .. well sort of .. you can set them IIRC, but if you delete elements via innerHTML that had handlers, the handlers stay around and crash the browser
<10> er
<1> #pound-perl.pm is cross network.
<10> buubot: reload
<0> buu: Reloading!
<10> You **** bot.
<5> that's... weird.
<5> Or is it very hiddent?
<10> mangle: Merlyn is the lovable chap that likes penguins.
<0> Merlyn is the acceptable cranny that likes penguins.
<10> Bah.
<1> merlyn: You mean the channel?
<5> No - I mean p3m
<10> "How is an emperor penguin like Santa Claus?"
<5> p3m.org sent me a p***word
<10> "They both come once a year"
<5> but there's no login form!
<5> because I want to edit the p***word, etc.
<1> merlyn: Oh, that's not yet ready to use. We need more help/time.
<5> ahh
<1> merlyn: For now, you have done all you can.
<5> That's what they keep telling me.
<12> we're all in it for the user cloak
<5> So how do I get the cloak?
<5> logout login?



<10> Yaakov: What was the log in going to be for?
<1> merlyn: No, I have to request it, which I will.
<5> ok
<1> buu: Various things, like email/wiki access/etc.
<10> T DONGS?
<5> I already have my dagger: $,1s
<5> just need the cloak :)
<10> hah
<1> buubot: mangle
<0> Yaakov: merlyn: No, I place to solicit it, which I curiosity.
<12> I CURIOSITY!
<1> merlyn: Request made.
<5> cool
<10> It's kind of funny, I'm watching all these poor fools trying to use gentoo
<10> It's like two hours later and they're still trying to figure out what to compile
<13> Compile your brain.
<10> NO
<1> buubot: mangle
<0> Yaakov: It's desiderate brace hours ensuing and number one're till now weighty to motive unresembling what to whip in
<14> gentoo's a PITA
<5> excess flood while saying nothing
<15> joining a large channel maybe?
<16> merlyn: other channel I bet
<17> is there a convenient way of obtaining the "hundredths" of a second without Time::HiRes ?
<5> not "convenient" :)
<17> ahrighty
<15> mmap__: what's wrong with Time::HiRes?
<18> mmap__: nowhere near as easy as Time::HiRes
<17> nothing, just wondering if there was something else
<18> Probably via Inline::C at a guess :)
<17> fixing something in a script.. whomever wrote this code should've noted that 'microseconds % 100' != hundredths of a second
<12> heh
<12> microseconds / 10000 is though :)
<19> Paladin`: I bet most people are only trying to get it easier.
<20> % != /
<20> Paladin`: for fun
<21> Paladin`: they have FUD
<5> no it isn't
<18> Bah
<18> Ignore my brain
<18> too early in the morning
<18> I'm thinking miliseconds
<22> nano is better
<22> or
<22> pico
<22> is there anything smaller than pico?
<23> sure
<1> yottaseconds
<22> it is a good thing that i don't have brain
<22> or do i
<23> http://units.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html
<10> Oh dear god
<23> beneath pico is femto, then atto, then zepto, then yocto
<23> I like the attoparsec.
<15> planck time
<21> then steve-o
<1> yocto is the other side of yotta
<18> stevieoseconds
<22> ahh right femto. after that i don't know anything really
<23> How much time is a stevieosecond ?
<23> 1 attoparsec is 3cm
<21> the time it takes you to.... nm :)
<13> GumbyBRAIN: John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen.
<24> Not that it has frozen now, i cheat and use some sort of bayesian analysis of the dead is about 2.5/1.
<18> about 2 minutes gregorian at a guess ..
<25> how much time is a stevie-o-first?


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