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<0> i'm not using setsid...
<1> oh, you want to *stop* it
<1> I thought you were asking how. furrfu.
<0> no, i don't want it to detach from the parent process
<2> so my grep is not working as i expect... grep($string,@array) returning elements that don't have a match, the $string is a real string [a-z] (no RE) only and the @array is an array of strings (sentences) Ideas?
<3> i hope hill clinton doesn't win the election
<3> i think females will vote just because she's a female that's there
<3> very bothersome
<4> book: perldoc -f grep
<5> book: Type 'perldoc -f grep' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/grep.html
<1> bobk: where's the quotemeta?
<2> pulled it out - didn't help
<4> book: the first arg to grep is an expression that should return a true value for the things you want to keep and a false value otherwise
<6> woo hoo; got a B in quantitative analysis
<0> does this sound correct: if i double fork, then kill the parent, the grandchild detaches?
<6> that cl*** blew



<1> (exam results)--
<6> aced the first and last test, 100%
<2> Why is grep treating the second parm a an RE? If there are metachars in the @array it fails....
<6> integral, are you taking summer school cl***eS?
<1> janhaa: eh? do you think "detach" means something in the POSIX model?
<1> Chris62vw: nope
<7> yes in the POSIX threads model
<1> bobk: it's not.
<1> amnesiac: I said *process*. but sort of quietly...
<0> integral, i have no idea. but what do you call it, when a process "falls back" to the root of the process tree?
<1> reparented?
<1> orphaned?
<7> orphaned child!
<0> you tell me :)
<2> integral: I know it's not supposed to , that is what i expect and my prev experience. In this case it is, issues w/ '/' and '*' in the @array
<0> can sleep 1; return anything else than 1 ?
<1> bobk: the problem is that I can't believe you
<2> I cant believe me either, I've done this many times, never came across the @array haveing metachars in it tho.
<8> janhaa: yes
<1> bobk: Well stop believing, and go and figure out what's happening!
<0> hobbs, ok.
<8> janhaa: although if you want better than second-resolution for how long you slept, you should use one of Time::HiRes's sleep functions instead
<0> yep.
<9> bobk: can you paste a fully working example of grep not working like you expect to one of the paste bots?
<8> $ perl -MTime::HiRes=sleep -le 'print sleep 1'
<8> 1.001558
<0> i didn't know sleep 1; coud return 0 :P
<2> Paladin: not familiar w/ pastebot -- pointer?
<9> bobk: /topic
<2> tkx
<8> janhaa: it could, if it was interrupted by a signal. Or it could return 2 or more if your process went a long while without getting CPU time
<1> gah, too many irc channels :-(
<0> hobbs, cool :)
<0> POSIX - is that just a module, so things should be more standard? like if you're used to writing C or something?
<1> no, it's a grabbag of weird stuff from the POSIX API
<1> and that doesn't have to be impl'ed on non-POSIX systems.
<0> okey. i don't really care, but does it work in windows?
<1> (windows has Win32::API for some of its own stuff for example)
<0> ok
<1> GumbyBRAIN: Design me a reusable widget
<10> Can anyone advise me on the widget if i was a joke, it's poor grammar.
<0> !!!! i'm getting so freakin frusturated :(
<11> janhaa: :(
<0> if i open STDERR to i log, i should be able to see the perl-core error messages as well...or?
<1> yes
<0> good.
<0> i'll start some logging then... my server ****s :/
<0> my next svn commit will contain a lot of changes :P
<11> GumbyBRAIN: what's your take on svn vs cvs?
<10> a brisket baked in canned corn on it.
<0> huh?
<0> what does that mean?
<0> some kind of cookie? :P
<1> Suppose I had a database with some blob fields, and it looked suspicously like a filesystem, what modules do I need to provide a DAV interface to it? (like Zimki does for example)
<0> mod_perl and DBI :)
<1> yes, and the DAV part? :-)
<0> perl code.
<12> hi all. when p***ing an object into a subroutine, must I p*** the object by reference?
<8> joseki: an object is a reference.
<12> hobbs: ah, right.



<12> hobbs: so, must I dereference in the subroutine to use the object?
<1> no
<0> joseki $obj->method() #method is a sub inside the cl***...
<0> will objects change in perl6? still package/bless i hope..?
<1> mostly :) they get a hell of a lot more sugar
<1> But it's good sugar
<13> hi those any one knows a way to convert strings of numbers from \d+ to \d+Kb ,\d+Mb ect' ?
<0> oh? the real thing or the syntetic?
<0> care to share some of the goods?
<9> The_SB: sure.. division..
<14> integral: there is bad sugar too, then? :'(
<15> eval: @foo = qw(457 567 890); map { "$_Kb" } @foo;
<13> Paladin: :-) there mast be a better way
<5> eggzeck: 3
<15> eval: @foo = qw(457 567 890); [map { "$_Kb" } @foo];
<5> eggzeck: ['','','']
<9> The_SB: define "better"
<14> The_SB: microsoft has been doing it since 1985, so I'm pretty sure it's possible.
<15> eval: @foo = qw(457 567 890); print @{[map { "$_Kb" } @foo]};
<5> eggzeck: 1
<1> there's sory a moduile, did you sehfch?
<11> eval: my %hash; %hash || undef
<5> Fennec:
<14> hmm
<14> Number::Format
<14> can do it
<1> gah, stupid irc, I'm back to thinking about p2p muds again
<16> Hi, dont mean to be annoying... But does anyone know of a resource for learning more about perl Tk?
<16> That isnt well... outdated?
<16> Most tutorials I find online arent very in-depth, or they just dont work
<4> Termy: Get the O'Reilly book on Perl/Tk
<13> Paladin: well whet I use File::Spec it give me a better portability on diffrent OS , so I hope to find a way to do somthing analog with FS and NET work data sizes
<16> PerlJam, know of a location for the ebook? :/
<17> Yaakov: you around?
<18> Termy: widget
<9> The_SB: and how does division not work in those cases? are Kb different number of bytes on different OSs?
<16> rob-ert, the man?
<16> I've already taken a look at that awhile ago I believe
<18> Termy: no, the programm. just type 'widget' at you shell prompt
<18> your
<16> ok
<1> Termy: safari.oreilly.com
<17> any jewish people in here? I need to know what "Yoma 67b" is, or more importantly, how to cite it as a reference
<1> the other #perl appears to be having their Jewish Hour at the moment :)
<13> Paladin: no but on network usualy we write 1000=KB and on filesystem data 1024=KB
<16> rob-ert, I dont have "widget"
<17> integral: which network?
<1> magnet?
<9> The_SB: I'm still not sure how division isn't working here.. obviously you will need to tell whatever you use if the number is network or FS based.. so you divide by 2 different numbers in your script.. people seem to want to make things far more complicated than they are..
<18> Termy: hmm, should come withe the perl/tk modules
<16> :/
<16> know of where to wget it?
<16> I know I have tk
<13> Paladin: you ar right - I am jast to lasy ... division will do
<16> found it :)
<16> uff! Thanks rob-ert!
<16> rob-ert++
<18> Termy: np
<16> mmm
<16> rob-ert, I've never seen tk used this way (when I look at the source)
<19> The_SB: Then upload it to cpan.
<16> :/
<13> buu OK
<16> Ill use safari
<16> thanks integral
<20> japhy: I am now.
<3> mmm
<3> a cluster of mini macs
<16> integral, do you perhaps know the name of that book?
<1> which book?
<1> "Learning Perl/Tk", "Programming Perl/Tk" et
<1> etc


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