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<0> i've been trying to get and older bizmail script it to work with my new servers..it worked on the old ones.. but.. alas.. im ... stupid today or something <1> is it possible to call qx without using the shell? <2> Meriwether: since parrot is where we're supposed to end up, that's encouraging <3> hi <4> qx doesn't launch a shell unless there are weird cahars <4> chars <5> they never did make any promises on the release date for Perl6 though, right? <3> i was curious if it is possible to use perl to read a file and output the file in binary form in another file <6> rutski89: christmas. <6> year unspecified. <4> what does "binary form" mean? <5> lol <0> lol <2> sarah: yes <7> PerlJam: Everything I read suggests Perl 5 will one day, just BE Perl 6. <2> Meriwether: perhaps.
<7> PerlJam: We'll wake up and say, "huh, we're using Perl 6!" <6> or they'll wake up and use lisp <3> i would like to read a file in and output the binary to another file ie 101101 form <7> LISP is inappropriately named. <7> It should be LITHP. <3> perljam could you help me with that <1> merlyn, this is what i'm running through qx: http://paste.flodhest.net/1152638017.html ...can you tell me what i'm doing wrong? <2> sarah: I could but your problem is incompletely specified. <3> im sorry how can i explain it better <1> sarah, something like this: <1> eval: sprintf "%b", 9 <8> janhaa: 1001 <1> ? <2> Meriwether: perl5 has gotten "use feature qw/blah/" for gradually bringing in perl6isms. The only problem is that ponie (perl5 on parrot) seems to have stalled, so the perl5 and perl6 ends don't quite meet <4> does rrdtool write to stdout? <4> and why do you care about a shell? <1> merlyn, yes <4> then your qx should capture that <0> Meriwether, that is true <1> merlyn, it does capture that, but i don't want the "sh -c ...." if i don't have to. i thought i could call the app "directly", without using `sh` <4> you have odd chars in there <3> well just say i have a text file that contains the text "hello world" i would like to be able to ouput that text in binary to another file. so the second file would contain only 1's and 0's in text <4> you can do the splitting yourself, and then a pipe open with explicit parameters <2> sarah: see what janhaa said. <4> open my $child, "-|", "your_cmmand", "arg1", "arg2", "arg3"; <4> that'll read the output of your command without ever using a shell <4> my @results = <$child>; <3> oh sorry i missed that line. thanks <3> =) you guys are great <4> what does "only 1's and 0's" mean <1> merlyn, ok. so qx _does_ call the shell. thanks. <4> it calls the shell when there are ugly chars <4> my $now = `date`; # no /bin/sh <4> my $now = `date | cat`; # /bin/sh called here <1> merlyn, so where are my "ugly" chars? <4> if it's just simple enough, perl does the processing directly <4> you have : and quotes <3> if 9 is 1001 in binary then i would read in a file that contains the char 9. and output the binary 1001 to a second file <4> the quotes mean "give it to the shell to de-quote it" <3> sorry i couldnt explain that easier <1> ah. ok. thanks <4> you actually want a string that has ascii "1" and ascii "0" <4> or bit 1 and bit 0? <4> or what? <1> merlyn, any way i can "decode" it before sending it to qx(), or should i simply use open() instead? <4> qx is pretty conservative <4> pretty hard to get it to do what you want here. <4> just use pipe-open <1> ok. <3> ascii containing 1 and 0 <1> eval: sprintf "%b", ord $_ for("helloworld"=~/(.)/g) <8> janhaa: <4> but janhaa - again, why do you care if there's a /bin/sh there? <4> you get the same result either way <1> :P <4> eval:unpack "B*", "hello" <8> merlyn: 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111 <4> that's what you want to use <1> merlyn, i'm calling it many,many times pr second, so i thought it might be faster if i went directly to the "source" :) <3> could i replace "hello" with an entire file <4> with a string, yes
<4> read the file into a string <4> why do you want so many 1's and 0's? <4> you like everythign taking 8 times as much space? <9> moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo <4> is this some form of obscuration? <10> buubot: source <8> Dist: svn co svn://erxz.com/eb <3> no its just for me to prctice with differnt perl commands <10> buubot: thanks <8> Dist: thanks. Is the one in perl5/ orphaned? <3> just playing around <4> sarah - this smells like homework then <3> yah it is <4> F U <4> dammit <4> tricked up <4> sarah BAD BAD BAD <4> don't do that <3> no its self-given homework <4> I should have smelled it earlier <3> not for school <11> haha <9> merlyn is bad <3> seriously <3> ahh well i can only promise i wouldnt cheat. you dont have to believe me though <4> you should be asking YOUR INSTRUCTOR, not us <4> and not LYING TO US <12> can i compile perl code under windows in a dll? <9> merlyn, you're such a senile hack <4> that's f'ing rude, bad, and I hope I never have to replace your code with code that works <13> how would i find if there exists a value that starts with a certain character inside an array? <9> didn't you ever learn, IRC > (you instructor's entire knowledge * 100000) <9> err, that's a typo <9> it should read 1,000,000 <3> im not lying god <14> kinections: probably with grep() <3> thats ****ed up. i told you im working for myself <9> sarah, what do you need to do? <5> merlyn: Google Check out looks good :) <5> merlyn: But I really have to be on the ball with Perl and XML to use the API <13> pravus: thanks <3> i told you im just playing around. like yesterday i wrote an algorithm for producing prime numbers, its just fun. learing perl <5> any suggestions anyone? Should I just get the standard O'reilly books on the subject, or are their better ones? <2> sarah: http://learn.perl.org/ has some nice resources for learning perl. <5> on XML and Perl that is <15> perlbot, learn perl? <16> http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/ <3> i know i've used theres and have learning perl by oreilly <3> but its hard to find a good book on perl file-operations <2> rutski89: The O'Reilly books on perl a pretty much definitive. XML is another matter though <9> moo <9> perlbot be cabbage <16> <cabbage> Hi, can I paste this very long script I downloaded and let you fix it for me plz?? <2> sarah: perldoc -f open <8> sarah: Type 'perldoc -f open' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/open.html <2> sarah: perldoc perlopentut <8> sarah: Type 'perldoc perlopentut' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlopentut.html <2> sarah: perldoc -f readline <8> sarah: Type 'perldoc -f readline' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/readline.html <2> sarah: perldoc -f read <8> sarah: Type 'perldoc -f read' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/read.html <2> sarah: perldoc -f sysread <8> sarah: Type 'perldoc -f sysread' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/sysread.html <9> SPAM <3> ok thanks <9> PerlJam :) <3> i am seriously very appreciative of the help. <15> GumbyBRAIN: Could you please explain where this tomato came from? <17> Please please please. <5> PerlJam: These two require no previous experience with XML http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pwebserperl/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlxml/ but should I also get a book only on XML to supplement, or do you think that those will provide enough information for me to be comfortable with XML as well? <5> PerlJam: have you read them?
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