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<0> hack: this
<1> mangle: I shot the sherrif, but I did not shoot the deputy
<0> I dashed the sherrif, notwithstanding I did not ruin the proctor
<2> Heh.
<1> lol
<1> what fun
<3> mangle: I flooded #perl and get kick-banned
<0> I undersea #perl and git repercuss-shut out
<1> heheh
<2> repercuss-shut!
<4> mangle: row row row your boat.
<0> sweep along string array your bucket.
<5> guten morgen
<1> mangle: I went to bed before anyone had a chance to get ops and kickban me
<0> I went to rock bottom up ahead anyone had a fair game to cram the mind ops and kickban me
<2> cfedde: That was great.
<3> Yaakov: before Moses is "pre-Mosaic". what is the adjective for before Abraham?
<3> Abramaic?
<1> Yup
<1> Or maybe Abramic .. as in "There are three primary Abramic faiths: Judaism, Islam and Christianity"
<2> japhy: Pre-Abrahamaic?
<3> Pre-Abrahamic gives me hits in google
<2> mangle: Abrahamaic
<0> Abrahamaic
<1> -a
<6> -b
<1> Abrahamic .. though Abraham was earlier called Abram .. so pre-Abramic comes before pre-Abrahamic :-P
<2> Well, Avram and Avraham--but who's counting?
<1> heheh .. I'm going the Anglicized versions :)
<1> Probably really more like -_.,_,..,-
<6> who was Abram/Avram?
<3> pravus - a patriarch of the judeo-christian-islamic faiths
<2> pravus: The first of the three Patriarchs of Judaism.
<1> Early biblical patriach
<2> He taught monotheism.
<6> ahh, yes
<3> Woosta: actually, unicode is popular there. /\p{IsRael}/
<6> i think there is a debate whether he or Akhenaten was the first to teach monotheism iirc
<2> pravus: Actually, monotheism must be MUCH older than Avraham. He was teaching "old-time religion".
<6> Yaakov: oh. i'll have to read up some time.
<2> pravus: At least inside the system, his ancestors MUST have been monotheists.
<2> pravus: But that is such an old history I put it in the realm of religious faith.
<7> Hi :)
<8> Hola
<9> tell me a good movie to watch tonight
<8> scarface :-P
<10> "Termy" at 128.252.233.73 pasted "Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with this error" (10 lines, 370B) at http://sial.org/pbot/18312
<9> other one?
<7> nachos, do you speak spanish?
<9> I like your taste btw
<8> hola muchachos - no
<7> heh
<7> Anyone have any ideas on that post of mine a bit earlier?
<9> tell me a good movie to watch tonight
<7> I mean... my application works
<7> mixas, maria full of grace
<7> I mean... my application works*
<6> mixas: Fight Club
<7> But I get all these annoying errors
<8> hurm
<8> where's merlyn when you need him.
<7> mixas, Maria full of grace if you havent seen it ;)
<7> great movie
<8> Are you trying to take a slice or use the range operator there Termy ?
<7> Im trying to test each element in the array
<7> without using a for loop
<9> I will see Fantastic four
<8> could use map?
<6> Termy: map/grep?
<8> FANTASTIC FOUR IS CRAP~!
<7> pravus, :/
<8> map map map
<8> map is wonderful at creating obscure code.
<8> well, not really, but it helps!
<7> mixas, :/
<7> fantastic four wasnt very good
<7> and I'm somewhat into that kinda stuff
<8> hurm
<11> is it possible to have multidimensinal ***ociate array in perl ?
<7> Maria full of grace! ;) ;)
<6> empty_mind: yes... but you have to use references
<6> empty_mind: btw, ***ociative arrays in perl are called hashes
<6> perlbot: references
<8> perl > all
<12> http://www.shlomifish.org/Vipe/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture2/references/, http://perl.plover.com/FAQs/References.html, perlref, perlreftut, perldsc, perllol
<7> pravus, any other ideas beside map/grep ;)?
<8> I say go with map :-)
<7> nachos, hehe
<6> Termy: while() ?
<6> there aren't that many looping constructs
<8> why do you not want to use a loop?
<7> pravus, see... here Ill show you my entire program, but the thing is...
<11> pravus, i need something like this $query[0]["hotelcode"]. How can i do it
<7> when I create a for loop or while
<7> the $_ changes
<9> ok then what else would I watch notight
<9> tonight
<7> which like kills the rest of my tests
<6> empty_mind: $query[0]->{hotelcode} = 'foo';
<7> so I was hoping for something like $sdi[0..2]
<11> ok pravus ks
<11> thxs pravus
<6> Termy: most of the looping constructs in perl set $_
<7> I guess I could test each element separately
<7> pravus, :/ exactly
<7> and I want it to stay the same for my purposes
<6> Termy: @sdi[0..2] would just be a slice... you'd need to still loop over it
<13> Termy: they don't *have* to set $_. You can tell perl to use some other scalar instead
<7> pravus, if doesnt set it I think
<7> Ill just do $sdi[0] $sdi[1] etc
<7> was just wondering if there was a way to shorten that
<14> suppose I have a string $str, how do I parse the string line by line and if a line begins with 'foo' do something.
<6> PerlJam: ?? even with 'for my $foo ...' $_ would still be set...
<7> PerlJam, I dont think I'll do that in this program, but it would be nice to know how I suppose, could you tell me?
<6> Termy: you *can* use @sdi[0..2] in a test, but realize that you would be testing the slice and not each individual element
<13> pravus: are you sure?
<7> pravus, would there be a way to test the elements instead?
<7> I'm just trying to get a better grasp of perl too :/ so any shortcuts would be... erm...lovely
<6> PerlJam: am i sure of?
<13> Termy: well, I kind of came in in the middle so at this point it just looks to me like you are imposing some crazy constraints on yourself for no good reason.
<7> PerlJam, I'm just wanting to keep $_ the same
<7> so no for loop or anything
<6> Termy: by looping or calling a sub that loops
<7> but test each element of @sdi
<6> Termy: iirc, $_ is local for loops
<6> but i could be wrong on that
<13> Termy: for loops don't set $_ if you ask them to use some other variable.
<13> Termy: show me some code. :-)
<6> PerlJam: wow... i didn't know that
<7> PerlJam, I ran it in the debugger with for (@sdi) {blah whatever was in here} and $_ was different
<7> ok
<7> err... one sec
<13> Termy: for (@foo) {...} uses $_ implicitly. If you're explicit: for my $f (@foo) { ... } $_ doesn't get clobbered
<10> "Termy" at 128.252.233.73 pasted "here you go :)" (29 lines, 721B) at http://sial.org/pbot/18313
<7> whoops, forgot to copy the #!/usr/bin/perl
<13> Termy: also, pravus is correct that $_ is localized to the loop, so whatever value $_ had before the loop is the same value it will have after the loop
<7> PerlJam, yes, after the loop
<7> I need it to be the same in the loop
<13> Termy: so stop using implicit variables.
<6> Termy: i was wrong... do as PerlJam says and give the for loop a scalar to work with: for my $foo (...
<7> pravus, ok :)
<13> Termy: change "for (0..$#lines)" to "for my $l (0..$#lines)" and use $l where you currently have $_
<7> where I have $_ everywhere?
<7> even $lines[$_]?
<13> yes.
<7> wow, I learned something :D
<13> As you nest your loops, you want to give names to your outter loop variables. It's only your innermost loop that you want to use an implicit variable like $_
<7> thank you :)
<13> (typically)
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