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<0> "programming"? what`s this? :|
<1> Yeah, programming is so 80s.. Nowadays, people just draw UML diagrams and Gantt charts, and the system just builds itself
<2> No, now a days people write 10,000 lines of xml to generate 3 lines of java
<3> buu: no, that's just tag.
<2> Well, ok, yeah
<2> I meant tag.
<3> i sit around wondering why catalyst ****s and need a framework but mine's not ready.
<2> I've been use a lot of catalyst recently
<3> how do you like it
<2> It's interesting
<2> It does lots of useful magic
<2> But I don't think it does magic in quite the right way
<2> It feels clumsy.
<3> i don't like it.
<2> I've been using CGI APP recently
<2> That is really fairly nice
<4> buu: You should help me get into Catalyst. It looks sweet from the outside, but I haven't been able to get started with it :)
<2> Heh
<2> Well, you'll learn
<2> It's basically a giant overgrown cgi app
<2> CGI::APP
<4> you're making ***umptions ;)
<2> About waht?
<2> Hrmph. CSS includes are ugly.
<2> WSMITH
<5> Yo!
<3> css is stupid
<5> Hmm. I seem to have a delimma
<3> it's yet another stupid thing for me to worry about
<2> wsmith: Well, I was going to ask you a question but I don't think it's your fault..
<5> This VPN software my company uses is kinda neat/retarded.
<3> wsmith: we use openvpn
<2> sili_: My problem is when I accessed my pages with path_info the browser used the path_info as the root for their default includes
<5> It keeps you from accessing your own lan by examining and changing the routing table every second to point all networks through the vpn interface
<3> sounds annoying
<3> wsmith: that's what the vpn is for...
<3> minus perhaps the 'every second'
<5> not just the vpn'ed networks. all networks. including your local network
<2> wsmith: Did you have to do any magic to make fastcgi p*** the ENV to it's scripts?
<5> buu: don't remember.
<2> Meh.
<2> I think it was an upgrade "feature"
<3> need more data-driven apps
<3> makes life better.
<2> wsmith: We recently installed catalyst 5.66 and tried to move pods on to it. Hilarity did not ensue.
<5> what happened?
<2> Well, after much debuggery and fun with oracle we learned that we weren't getting any environment variables
<2> On the plus side I finally got nachoguy to use ratpoison
<5> I vaguely remember manually setting ORACLE_SID somewhere.
<5> Check out my new toy: http://warrenandrachel.com/newtoy.jpg
<2> Oh god that's ugly.
<6> Look how small her tits are!
<2> Yay shiny disks!
<2> Is that with 5 disks?
<5> I only have 4 in it now (plus the one on top and two in the case)
<2> So 7 disks of joy? Are they raided?
<5> The four are
<2> raid5?
<5> raid0
<3> someone make yetanotherframework
<2> wsmith: How much space?
<2> sili_: NOTHX. BUSY.
<3> :(
<5> about 1tb total
<2> Nifty keen.
<2> I've been whoring startrek
<3> send
<7> GREETINGS MASTAR.
<2> The time is at hand!
<2> wsmith: What are you doing with the storage?
<5> downloading the *entire* internet
<2> heh
<2> Going to need more than that for teh intarnet
<5> I actually bought it for the speed, not the space.
<2> Really? What are you doing that needs that much speed?
<8> He didn't say he was downloading and _storing_ it
<5> statistics
<2> Point!
<2> wsmith: How vague!
<8> Personally I'd fully support a system devoted to downloading the whole internet and throwing it all away, again and again and again
<2> Brend: What a coincidence, I happen to be acception donations for such a project..
<9> heheh
<8> That _is_ an amazing coincidence
<2> I know.
<10> I downloaded the Internet into my iPod Yocto Shuffle. It was a mistake.
<5> I'm trying to see if there's any statistical correlation between news about a company and the stock price of said company
<2> You can make the checks out to the initials of the project
<2> wsmith: Ohh, that
<2> The project is named Company Archiving Storage House
<5> I had the software running for about six weeks, and the process was taking more than 24 hours to run
<2> wsmith: Any success?
<5> Dunno. Had to stop the processing
<2> Ah
<5> Regardless. You want a list of 4-letter available domains?
<2> Sure
<2> wsmith: Whats next to your tower in that picture?
<2> wsmith: Boster is enjoying your shiny hardware
<5> On which side?
<2> Right
<5> My monitor
<2> Ah
<5> stupid squatters
<2> wsmith: Yeah
<2> wsmith: I'm thinking about picking up cctld
<2> With two letters
<5> aa5a.com is available
<2> How useful
<5> I still want ws.mi.th
<5> Too bad I can't read Thai
<2> Yeah, too bad.
<2> And too bad you aren't part of their military.
<2> On the other hand, ratpoison is damn cool.
<5> I hate you
<5> And I hate HPUX
<11> HPUX is strange ...
<5> With gnu coreutils, bash, vim, and openssh, it can be quite usable
<2> wsmith: Come to the dark side.
<11> HPUX and AIX were both early attempts to make "that engineer's Unix" into an IT-friendly system ... and thus have legacy incompatibilities with IT-friendly recent POSIX systems (Solaris, Linux, ...)
<11> yes, adding GNU core to either really helps ... but it bugs the vendor support folks ...
<5> Corporate policy blocks execute privileges to su. Coreutils ships with a suitable replacement
<12> Anyone got time for a (rather) quick help in PM?
<13> we like to keep things in-channel. PM feels like cheating on the channel. I couldn't do that to the channel.
<2> Mmm, conkeror
<2> It mostly works
<14> what's that
<15> canker sores, they have treatments for that
<2> C0NKEROR
<16> buu: it blows
<2> Yeah
<2> firefox ****s too much to make it work =[
<16> firefox doesn't want to be slowed down to count 793 links off of fark before returning control to the user
<2> IT SHOULDN'T BE A ****ING SLOW DOWN
<2> Firefox ****ing knows how many goddamn links it has
<2> It should let me navigated to them.
<12> Does perl allow you to use: warn $var->line( ... ); (I'm talking about the "warn" there)?
<14> Capso: not sure what you're asking
<14> you can warn, you can get current line, you can dump stacktrace
<2> You can p*** the results of method calls to warn
<12> The warning says "something's wrong" and points to that line... is it because something's really wrong in the function or because warn doesn't work like that?
<12> s/function/method call (I suppose)
<2> It's because $var->line is returning undef.
<12> Buu: And would that be a real problem?
<15> That's for you to decide.
<17> no but a poorly phrased question would!
<14> a****ingmen
<2> Capso: ... only if you want warn to do something useful..
<12> I'm using Perl 5.8.8 with GD 2.0.33 and Perl5 GD Interface version 2.30, and when I graph something large, like $x**9 ($x being increased in a loop, where the line is also being graphed), it produces the actual graph okay, but then there's some overflow of lines for some reason... and it so happens that the same Code works fine on someone else's Machine (doesn't give these overflow of lines), but does this to me... anyone ever seen such a th
<12> (Another variable, $y is being evaluated as the outcome of $x**9 and they are being plotted respectively, hope you get what I'm saying.)
<2> Nope!
<15> It gets too big?
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