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<0> Hauppauge PVR-250 or 350 would do nicely. Plus a relatively cheap card with TV-out, or a scan-converter (depends on what the monitor ends up being)
<1> mine has 2x visionplus HDTV cards in it, but it needs a new video output card (eg, for connecting to TV)
<2> http://epiadv.netfirms.com
<3> buu i love u!
<1> Shh, he'll get a big head.
<4> Well, this machine will be a general purpose Windows machine.
<4> But I guess it will have TV/DVD/Radio whatever too.
<0> Yaakov: yeah, I gotcha. With the ability to do all kinds of TV-ish things when asked to, though
<4> Yes... worries me a bit.
<5> this the origami?
<4> We don't have a TV.
<1> origami TV?
<5> nah.. I thought the hot topic atm was the origami and what it can do
<5> (including TV in)
<1> Never heard of it. :)
<0> Yaakov: I'll tell you a secret: you can run composite or s-video signals over cat3 or cat5 and the loss isn't so bad -- so long as you keep it to 100' or so ;)
<4> Why would I want to do that?
<1> It's a much better idea to get proper sheilded 75ohm cable... ;)
<0> Yaakov: because it's cheap and easy
<4> Where would I be sending the video signal?
<0> to your nonexistent TV
<0> you could just get a nice $2000-4000 TV that has VGA input. :)
<4> It is a 1.8GHz P4, so not too bad.
<6> Yaakov.
<7> arrgh! i know it's wrong, but i need dynamicly declared vars. any tips?
<4> Hello.
<4> Hrm... ond of the DIMMs just got VERY hot for no apparent reason.
<4> I don't know what happened.
<0> someone started using it
<7> i hear that Damian Conway managed it for Parse::RecDescent, but the source there is a little dense...
<4> No... I killed the power strip by mistake and when I restarted it only counted 512, I went to reseat the DIMM and burned my finger on it.
<0> shift8: you don't have to _do_ anything interesting. turn of strict where you're using them, and start using strings as references
<0> interesting
<0> do they have heat spreaders?
<7> i'm already in the no strict 'refs' pragma, but am getting "Modification of a read-only value" errors.
<4> hobbs: No, it is just PC133 RAM.
<4> I pulled it and all is well, if anemic.
<8> 4. Set the permissions of the directory you want to install Gossamer Forum into
<8> to 777.
<6> hobbs :P
<0> Yaakov: really?
<0> Yaakov: besides, half a gig suffices for most purposes
<8> i like how this commercial piece of perl software
<8> can't be bothered to separate out powers
<8> and wants its whole install dir world-writable
<8> cuz that's easier than explaining that they want it owned by the user apache's running as
<9> Heh... commercial software usually does things like that
<4> 512 is not enough, really.
<8> it's pathetic ****
<9> When you're making things for money; your priorities are all wrong
<8> reminds me of the web apps i wrote in the 90's
<8> i'd rather use php than go through with this install i think
<8> gossamer--;
<10> can i paste a one liner i have a question with?
<0> Yaakov: Depends what you do. My mom's machine has 512 and doesn't really have any problems. I get by with 768 on this laptop; it used to have 512, and the only time it ever gave me a problem was this one perl script I wrote that used 600MB of VM ;)
<11> ScottMac: if it's one line, um.. yeah.
<4> My wife is a serious user, lots of productivity apps.
<6> :o
<10> foreach ($rule->{'match'}) { print $_ . "\n"; } in that example i end up just printing the array i'm trying to iterate
<4> I have a gig in my notebook, which is OK.
<9> Yes.. it would
<6> omfg lightning!
<0> ScottMac: $rule->{match} isn't an array
<9> foreach( put a list here..... ) { .. }
<11> $rule is a hashref
<9> Maybe you want @{ $rule->{match} }
<9> ^-- that there is an array
<8> what if it's
<10> refs are starting to confuse me :)
<8> \$rule->{match} or @$rule->{match} ?
<10> i can print $rule->{'match'}[0] fine
<8> refs confuse me too
<9> my @foo <== an array
<9> my $fooref = \@foo; <== a reference to the @foo array
<8> oooh
<9> foreach( @$fooref ) { .... }
<8> oooooh
<9> equal to foreach( @foo ) { .... }
<9> They really are quite simple
<9> \SOMETHINGHERE <== make a reference to SOMETHINGHERE
<12> print $$$\\\"hello, world"
<13> also: @{ $fooref } is the same as @$fooref
<10> using
<10> @{ $rule->{match} }
<10> worked
<10> cna you explain what it is?
<9> Yes... the braces are needed in the case above because it isn't a simple name
<12> print $$${\\\"hello, world"} <- i mean
<14> anyone ever try to get a windows registry value from a reg binry type blob?
<9> @{ SOME ARRAY REF HERE } <== unpack an arrayref
<13> @{ } dereferences an array reference
<10> ah ok
<10> :)
<9> But the @$ref is a shortcut for simple names
<12> myboxen: as opposed to using the windows API?
<13> %{ } dreferences a hash reference
<13> etc...
<10> ok noted
<9> See.. :) They're quite easy
<10> i hope never to touch this section of the code again
<12> but @{$foo->{ref}} is not the same as @$foo->{ref}
<14> avar: whatever the proper method is. I have been reading the TieRegistry stuff and it doesn't have a blob type that I could find.
<14> it aparently from the windows documentation makes a difference.
<8> avar: @$foo->{ref} differz cuz its @{$foo}->{ref} right?
<15> Hi all. I am looking for tons of perl scripts. Kind of m***ive scripts posting. Thank you !
<12> yes
<12> Asyx: nobody likes you
<10> Asyx: i am looking for tons of money. got any?
<10> Thank you !
<15> Wait a minute,
<15> I said, i'm looking for scripts, programs, freely submited
<10> hotscripts.com then
<10> or this magical thing called "google"
<15> Otherwise, I cannot read any code to learn :\
<10> buy a book :)
<4> Asyx: How will you know if the code is worth learning from?
<12> most of those stupid submitted scripts are just that
<16> Yaakov: trivial problem
<16> just set your standards low enough and everything will be worthy
<15> Yaakov> I mean free code
<4> Asyx: Yes, but reading code to learn is only helpful if it is worth learning from.
<4> Asyx: How will you know?
<15> #$@ english language, 1 word to mean 100 things.
<10> free scripts might not be commented etc
<10> grab a book or look for a few tutorials
<15> Yaakov> By reading what's usefull. For example, if I want to get better at programming with SDl and Perl, i will look for games written in perl then look up at the code.
<16> that in no way means the code isn't crap
<16> existence of code does not imply any sort of quality!
<15> Where should I refer to then ?
<4> Asyx: There are several good books, and there are modules that are part of perl's core.
<4> GumbyBRAIN: say something uplifting
<17> Yaakov: strict was first imprisoned, and my knees forthwith, and, uplifting my eyes, his exclamations of gratitude and adoration.
<4> hobbs: That RAM might not have been seated properly.
<4> I put it back in and it is fine now.
<18> YES
<18> 3 MINUTES
<18> i'll use the potty to kill it.
<0> Yaakov: hmm. Either that or you just gave it time to cool down, and it's going to quit again. But I guess you'll know soon.
<4> We'll find oput.
<0> that Oput is so hard to find
<4> GumbyBRAIN: oput
<6> gumbybrain: use GumbyBRAIN::Potty;
<4> I am very curious about this video card.
<18> he no reply
<18> gumbybrain: use GumbyBRAIN::Potty;
<18> GumbyBRAIN: use GumbyBRAIN::Potty
<1> GumbyBRAIN: Eat the potty.
<18> weak.
<18> GumbyBRAIN: SHUT UP OMG GO HOME
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