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<Caelum> eval: my $n=5; use constant THING => $n; [THING]
<buubot> Caelum: [undef]
<Snurglewozzle> like $const = sub { param("PID"); }; ?
<Caelum> that would work
<Snurglewozzle> no this param will be overwritten by other subs and I want to get it from starts and use it later
<Caelum> so put it in a variable?
<Snurglewozzle> how exactly?
<imMute> sub CONSTANT { "blarg" }
<Snurglewozzle> I want to put it to a static variable
<imMute> Snurglewozzle: think about what you just said
<Caelum> Snurglewozzle: my $outer_var; sub stuff { $outer_var = param('PID') ... } sub otherstuff { use $outer_var } ...
<hobbs> Snurglewozzle: you don't know what "static" means. :)
<me_here> static means use the stack and protect it like hell lol
<ramserver> hm
<ramserver> is oo really better?
<ramserver> damn is it ever catching on
<LeoNerd> OO is a tool. It's a solution to certain types of problem
<ramserver> but its new
<LeoNerd> It can't be judged to be better or worse, without reference to the problem you are solving
<ramserver> orig was was proced
<ramserver> m
<ramserver> ok
<hobbs> ramserver: kill yourself now.
<jim> ramserver: oo was new in like... 1983 or so
<pravus> ramserver: OO is the only way to be marketable in this day and age. you should be learning java and ruby instead of wasting your time with perl.
<hobbs> jim: go a bit further back :)
<ramserver> grrr
<jim> hobbs: well it was smalltalk that was the original appearance, no?
<ramserver> anyone here ever see an oo databse work?
<Inf3rn0> Wikipedia: "Even though it originated in the 1960s,"
<ramserver> smalltalk never seemed to have caught on
<hobbs> jim: yeah, and that was in use in-house in the 70s :)
<jim> yeah... I had an oo database replace my incoming water main yesterday...
<jim> it was a lot of work
<Caelum> there are a few OO databases, they are just fs storage for objects, mostly for things like java and python, Perl doesn't have (or probably need) one
<LeoNerd> You mean an ORDB?
<ramserver> no
<ramserver> oo
<jim> ramserver: try disney squeak if you want to see smalltalk
<ramserver> www.squeak.org
<ramserver> seaside is touted
<ramserver> along with glorp
<jim> yeah, I guess that's it
<ramserver> GLORP!!
<ramserver> lol
<jim> the idea for you, would be to get it, learn smalltalk and play with it for like 2 months straight
<jim> then you'll see one form of oo and can see why and for what it's better
<ramserver> ok
<jim> but squeak looks purty
<prags2626> /([0-9]+)\/(tcp|udp)\s(open|closed)\s/
<ramserver> glor i am told in the other chat is capacle of sql generation of any complexity
<prags2626> i have that for my regex
<ramserver> glorp
<prags2626> i'm trying to match it against data like:
<prags2626> 21/tcp open ftp
<prags2626> i don't know how to match the White-space data
<prags2626> i use \s, but for some reason it's not working
<prags2626> anybody help?
<jim> so are most programming languages :P
<jim> prags2626: specifics... be informative... put it on as few lines as possible or consider putting your question on a web page... don't leave things out
<prags2626> oh ok, got it
<prags2626> nevermind
<prags2626> i forgot the *
<prags2626> jim: next time, will do
<prags2626> sorry
<jim> no problem, moreorless :)
<jim> btw, you might also consider + rather than * for some things
<kinections> how do i install Apache.pm from cpan for Apache2?
<chrismon> I know how to match with a negative character cl***
<chrismon> but what about a , hrm, negative string match?
<Botje> kinections: ehh, you probably want to install mod_perl 2
<chrismon> so "if the string I want to match also does not have this particular string in this particular place"
<Botje> chrismon: (?!...)
<chrismon> yeah, i've been trying backrefs
<chrismon> no space between the ! and the sub expr, right?
<Botje> definitely not
<Limbic_Region> chrismon - I have a link for you, give me a sec
<chrismon> $text =~ s/<span cl***="(?!heading)">([^<]*)<\/span>/$1/g;
<Limbic_Region> http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=588315
<chrismon> thank limbic, looking...
<Limbic_Region> it isn't exactly what you are after
<chrismon> the link or ?! ?
<Limbic_Region> the link
<kinections> Botje: what do i have to install in cpan for that to happen?
<Limbic_Region> see also http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=518444
<chrismon> hah,
<chrismon> ??? # doesn't contain foo or bar /foo|bar/ # contains foo or bar
<kinections> Botje: Apache2?
<Botje> kinections: http://perl.apache.org
<kinections> Botje: oh, is it not in cpan?
<kinections> Botje: because i've already done that
<Botje> no, mod_perl is not on cpan ..
<LinuxMafia> hi aquestion
<Limbic_Region> lo ananswer
<chrismon> hrm, so I'm not sure why then my example doesn't work
<chrismon> $text =~ s/<span cl***="(?!heading)">([^<]*)<\/span>/$1/g;
<Botje> chrismon: don't parse html with regexps. just don't.
<chrismon> i'm thinking that as long as 'cl***="heading"' is in the test, it will continue to match
<Limbic_Region> Botje - isn't that CSS?
<chrismon> botje, its just not that easy
<LinuxMafia> all : what i have to change in "sendRequest(httpRequest, 'post', 'cal.pl', strPost);" if i want to p*** a and b to cal.pl?
<Botje> Limbic_Region: <span> ... is very much html
<Botje> chrismon: whatever the problem, using regexps will only make it harder.
<LinuxMafia> any one?
<chrismon> botje, yes, but I'm stuck with what I've got at the moment, or I'd parse it all by hand
<chrismon> er, well programmatically
<chrismon> but I have to use regex for the momenty
<Botje> no you don't, use a html parser.
<chrismon> there's got to be a way to say "any string but this"
<chrismon> botje, I cannot
<Botje> yes you can.
<Botje> LinuxMafia: the strPost.
<chrismon> nope
<chrismon> if this were simply HTML I would, but I can't
<LinuxMafia> Botje, oh i got it thanks alot
<chrismon> so, you don't know who to "any string but this one" in regex, just admit it ;)
<chrismon> er how to
<hobbs> chrismon: nor does anyone
<Jim497> how could I extract a substring from a string that matches with a concrete pattern? Thank you!
<hobbs> chrismon: the language of regular expressions doesn't admit it :)
<chrismon> hobbs, i've wondered that for many years
<chrismon> always found ways to get around it, not being able to fiture out a way to do it
<Limbic_Region> chrismon - ok, so you want to use regexen, why not just use two
<hobbs> Jim497: $string =~ /(lots of little rocks) and some cement/
<Limbic_Region> use the first to exclude strings that have the span="heading"
<Limbic_Region> and use the second to extract the part you need
<chrismon> hrm...
<Jim497> Hobbs: ok, thank you!
<hobbs> Jim497: but don't forget to add water!
<Limbic_Region> next if /span="
<Limbic_Region> er
<Limbic_Region> next if /span="heading"/;
<Jim497> hobbs: is water important??
<hobbs> Jim497: can't have concrete without water.
<Jim497> hobbs: bu my PC is not a "water resist" one...
<hobbs> I guess you need to upgrade before you can start processing concrete then.
<chrismon> Limbic_Region, can't do that
<Jim497> I see, thanks again
<Botje> chrismon: jeez, what _CAN_ you do,
<Limbic_Region> chrismon - at this point, no one is going to want to help you lest you disclose these unspoken requirements and constraints of yours
<chrismon> ok, ?: does it positively, but not negatively
<Limbic_Region> you can use one regex but not 2
<Limbic_Region> WTF?
<hobbs> chrismon: no, ?: is a non-capturing group. :)
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