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<0> ha - ha
<1> and reagents?
<0> very amusing merlyn... ... ... ... ...
<0> thrig, oh boo
<2> Oh god.
<3> reagents philbin!
<3> reeeeeee-gents
<0> oh
<0> LAME.
<3> ow ow... I'm on FIRE!
<3> what's the difference between fire and rust? Speed. :)
<0> ...
<4> yo momma
<5> rust requires water. fire doesn't.
<0> merlyn, honestly... I think that's about as amusing as that bash quote I read tonight... where the "punchline," was "0x12=18".
<0> Pete_I, no.
<6> GumbyBRAIN: Hey little girl is your daddy home, did he go away and leave you all alone?
<7> Hey all can someone sum up what the problem go away.
<0> gumbybrain: you are very counterintuitive.
<7> many spices are very counterintuitive.
<3> fire requires the absence of water, in fact.
<0> indeed they are.
<4> GumbyBRAIN: the children of dune have the spice.
<7> Imagine...any of you to have children ?
<0> merlyn, wow, really?
<0> merlyn, except when it does require water :)
<8> merlyn: Not always!
<9> hey again
<0> Brend :)
<8> Some things produce their own oxygen as they burn
<0> YES
<8> Like weedkiller mixed with sugar
<0> rofl
<0> I knew you were going to say that :)
<3> or sodium
<0> yep
<3> sodium + water = fire!
<9> when you do package A::B; does that mean that package B is inheriting from A?
<2> Brend: #ffe ?
<2> nym: no.
<3> nym - absolutely not
<6> I had a science teacher who tossed magnesium into water for the cl*** once
<0> ffe?
<6> That was sweet
<9> what would be inheriting?
<3> interitance is completely controlled by @ISA
<9> oh
<0> hobbs... yay?
<2> nym: When you specifically do it.
<4> the hamsters are eating brocolli
<6> but who's chopping?
<3> there's no Perl relationship between A::B and A, any more than there's a relationship between A::B and C::D
<3> unless you count the nested hashes making up the symbol-table space
<9> package B; @ISA = "A"; ?
<0> or merlyn to humor ;D
<0> hahaha
<6> package B; use base 'A'; # nicer, most of the time
<3> you can say that, but I'm pretty sure only one of us has been paid $3500 to deliver a half hour of humor at a computer conference. :)
<9> thanks, that sounds better
<9> @ISA is pretty non-exlainatory
<3> and I would suggest it's not you. :)
<6> nym: It says that B "is a" A
<6> nym: which works better when A isn't a vowel... so to speak.
<9> ah
<3> use base is both "set @ISA" and "load the child cl***"
<9> heh
<3> use base qw(Foo Bar); is like @ISA = qw(Foo Bar); use Foo; use Bar;
<6> Someone really should alias UNIVERSAL::isa to UNIVERSAL::isan :)
<9> okay, so i did that
<3> good for you!
<2> I want a UNIVERSAL::isn't
<9> my question now is, by inheriting like that, i should be able to use subroutines from A, right?
<3> No
<3> well - as methods, yes
<3> but exporting is not the same as inheriting
<10> buu .. this isn't php .. we don't need a separate command for every possible thing we might want to do ..
<3> Child @ISA Parent means that Child->foo will look for Child::foo first, and if not found, Parent::foo
<3> nym - please read perldoc perlboot
<11> perlboot - Perl OO tutorial for beginners. To access this perldoc please type, at a command line, 'perldoc perlboot'. You may also find it at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlboot.html
<3> I wrote that for a reason. :)
<12> Woosta: yeah! All we need is the dwim operator.
<9> too many people asking the same kinds of questions merlyn ?
<12> merlyn: admit it ... you wrote perlboot just to spite Tom :)
<3> that and my clients all wanted to know the same thing.
<3> PerlJam - perhaps a bit, yes.
<0> merlyn: Qweep.
<9> cheers merlyn
<10> PerlJam: from the looks of the PHP site, dwim() is about the only command they don't have .. nor d_w_i_m() or dowhatimean() or do_what_i_mean()
<9> looks cleanly written
<3> I washed my hands before typing. :)
<12> I guess that means I should get some sleep or something
<6> definitely a good plan
<12> To be fair, I didn't know that the default configuration for busybox doesn't include /bin/sh
<12> (/bin/ash, but not /bin/sh)
<12> or perhaps my "default" isn't really default.
<12> oh well, that's a problem for 6 hours from now :)
<12> Good night all
<4> hmm
<4> i never understood this "perl doesn't scale" argument
<2> sili_: Well, the basic argument is that if you write 500 million lines of perl, it's hard to maintain
<4> buu: and writing 500 million lines of ____ is easier?
<8> I really wish everything except emacs didn't use ^W to mean "close"
<4> liek wtf.
<4> Brend: hahahah i love that
<6> but W is next to Q
<2> sili_: Um. No.
<13> It's like saying special case coding (eg nethack) is tougher to maintain than wrapping functionality into properties.
<4> Brend: like using tabs in firefox and i try to ^W a word and it closes the tab :|
<2> sili_: That was kind of the point inherent in my saracasm.
<8> sili: Exactly
<6> dabreegster: nethack _is_ a maintainability nightmare!
<8> sili: Or when you spend ten minutes editing something in a text area and then just close your browser
<4> buu: yes, i was aware of your sarcasm. and your point.
<13> hobbs: Probably. But special case coding is fun.
<2> GOOD
<2> FAGGOT.
<4> i'll run you over with my car
<8> buu: The argument is that Perl doesn't force you to write things in a sensibly structured way
<8> buu: There are, of course, several things wrong with that argument
<4> wahhh, hold my hand. i'm not competent
<2> Brend: Your argument digusts me.
<8> buu: It's not _mine_
<2> YOU SAID IT.
<8> The only reason _I_ don't use Perl is to avoid being ***ociated with YOU
<4> that's a good reason
<4> if i ever heard one
<2> Brend: It's not my fault you cry in your sleep.
<14> I just want to _get_ in on the underlining gig.
<2> ew73: How about you got.
<8> buu: Yes it is! The crying thing started right after that thing you did to me in the hay loft
<14> buu: It's what I got.
<4> i wonder if jobs.perl has anything good
<2> Brend: Well, yeah. But I wasn't going to tell anyone until you brought that up..
<14> sili_: MoveOn.org has a position for web admin, activism required, perl + SQL useful.
<8> :~(
<2> So?
<2> Psychotic democrats like perl?
<14> buu: I don't know if you'd call them democrats, but yes, it appears so.
<8> ew73, maintaining their website doesn't count as activism?
<4> wtf
<14> Brend: I've no idea.
<2> ew73: I guess.
<2> Brend: It's a job.
<4> wtf
<4> 7 years of modperl and dbi development is like retarded
<2> I guess.
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