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<0> troytroy: It's ok. Sit down. Have a cup of tea and tell us all about it. We're very sympathetic and understanding here. We like to make people feel better.
<1> integral: Damn it, get BinGOs back out here
<2> buu: how did he break your bot?
<1> pravus: He made me install a new version of his crappy module =[
<2> hahaha
<3> see revdiablo just banned me from #bash just because i just asked how to write a script to generate numbers from 0000 to 9999 for my dialup script
<1> Sigh
<4> troytroy - makes sense.
<1> troytroy: It's probably because he hates you.
<4> troytroy - in any case, this channel doesn't care about it.
<2> troytroy: do you really think it is a good thing to complain in here about it?
<1> Oh, yaakov unbanned him didn't he
<4> troytroy - if you feel that he broke some dire Freenode rule, Freenode has a website with all kinds of information for you.
<2> troytroy: and you can also hit up #freenode
<2> i'm sure they'd be just as happy to ignore you
<4> that's more historical than current, pravus -- unless my information is also historical.
<1> #freenode redirects to #freenode-social
<4> #freenode : read our ****ing online documentation.
<2> hrm... didn't know that. shows how much i go there ;)
<3> hey what happened to deep thinking and open mind
<3> i am just compiling a security report ok?
<4> troy - please ask a question.
<5> I really hate these audits companies get consultants in to do. You could find teenagers who could write more engaging prose.
<3> with all due rspect why do you people all see the negative in everything
<2> troytroy: apparently no one wants to help in your quest... that's the breaks.
<5> troytroy: man seq!
<4> troy - please ask a question.
<5> darn handy little command. But also: perl -le 'printf "%04d\n" for 1..100000'
<5> iirc there's even a printf(1)!
<3> if know one wants to help that does not warrant banning me
<2> integral: did you write seq or something? ;)
<5> pravus: hmm?
<4> troy - we've established that nobody here cares about your banning in #bash
<2> troytroy: this isn't #bash... we don't deal with the politics there... take it up with freenode staff
<5> bleh, my laptop doesn't have seq(1) installed :-/
<2> integral: that's twice you glowed over seq today
<6> in new bashes, there's this {0000..9999} brace expansion
<6> like in bash 2.* I think
<5> oh, the first time was because I'd been reminded of its joy; and this second time is me using this new found wonderous joy of unix utilities!
<2> heh
<5> except it's an evil GNU utility :-(
<2> everything is GNU/GNU
<5> it's got a -f option! excellent!
<5> I wonder if Hurd finally replaces man(1) with info(1)
<2> it also probably has a --really-long-option-that-i-can-never-remember-so-i-have-to-read-the-man-page-anyways
<5> I hate long options. A decent tool has only about 10 options so they can all get a char. IMHO, YMMV, etc.
<6> I disagree
<6> I like long options, but only in addittion to short options
<2> i don't mind them if there are suitable 1-char alternatives
<7> troytroy - if you got banned in #bash, it was either (a) a joke, or (b) deserved
<5> the other problem is remembering if it's --enable-frobbing, or --frobbing=enable, or maybe --disable-do-not-frob
<5> merlyn: perhaps we should just shutup about it so he doesn't drone on and on. okay?
<7> and this isn't a help desk. it's a bunch of communities with their own rules, their own enforcement
<2> integral: which, imho, defeats the purpose of the option since they are supposed to be easier to remember
<5> merlyn: yes, we've done that. No need to revive dead threads.
<7> Ok
<7> sorry
<7> trying to help
<5> pravus: yeah, but you have to remember to use the same words as the author. Which invariable involve -ize/-ise or -our/-or
<7> and unfortunately probably not helping
<8> Then use one line instead of 3 so people can actually read the legitimate traffic
<3> merlyn: why do u hate me soo much?
<4> hey, we shouldn't silence ourselves over the fear that /he might continue whining/.
<3> merlyn: what did i do to u
<4> troy - because you are hateful.
<7> Ouch - there we go. that kind of talk will get you banned.
<5> "you" dammit!
<4> troy - look at yourself! Saying 'u'.
<7> yes. use "you" for one thing
<7> this isn't your SMS phone
<2> integral: never thought of it from the angle
<8> troytroy: This is a perl channel- go to #freenode if there's a problem with #bash. If not, stop complaining
<2> the one that really bugs me is '--help' and then not having '-?'
<7> and if you were complaining like this in #bash, it'd be easy to see why you would get banned. :) Grow up.
<7> Stop acting like I do from time to time. :)
<5> pravus: another one which bugs me is that plain 'objdump' gives a different summary of options to 'objdump --help', and objdump -h doesn't work
<3> ok not minding anyone you all just trying to provoke me so i just cross the line
<4> troy - if we were trying to provote you, we would've said CRY MORE N00B
<8> troytroy: This is a perl channel. If you're not talking about perl, shut up.
<4> but then /we/ would be lame.
<2> integral: hah! they had to program it that way! *sigh*
<7> troytroy - you are now experincing "projection", where you think *we* are doing the thing that *you yourself* is actually doing
<8> merlyn: Don't feed him
<5> Pro Vote! Vote in favour of Voting. Use your democratic right to support Voting!
<4> gartt - hey, we can talk about !perl.
<9> anyone know what's goin on with this FC5 SQLite issue?
<7> we talk about perl and !perl. Just not whining. :)
<7> & enroute somewhere else
<3> merlyn: did i tell u i bought your latest book
<2> w00t... BinGOs implemented ->delay() in PoCo::IRC
<6> gartt++
<4> troy - merlyn's \& indicates that he is elsewhere, now.
<5> heh, ayrnieu++ # escaping
<3> hmm
<3> troytroy, is going to bed very angry
<3> bye folks we talk more about perl politics tomorrow
<9> what is PERL_UNUSED_DECL exactly?
<5> you put it on a declaration to mark it as unused?
<9> ok
<5> yeah, it is. turns into __attribute__((unused)) on gcc
<9> its getting redefined on a module build
<5> o_O
<9> awesome
<5> something to do with pport.h?
<9> sqlite
<10> Someone at 216.6.168.167 pasted "In file included from /usr/lib" (4 lines, 298B) at http://sial.org/pbot/16670
<9> oh dbipport.h....
<3> pport.h?
<9> no
<3> yes dbipport.h...
<11> hi - can any one refer me to a good and easy to use perl+mysql script which index a static web site?
<9> yeah, dbipport.h
<3> The_SB, he be careful about how you frame your question ok
<5> The_SB: interesting requirement. Have you looked at swish-e? it uses it's own DB, not mysql though
<2> The_SB: perhaps you want LWP::Simple, DBI, and DBD::mysql ?
<4> you can also use ht//dig
<11> troytroy : have I done something wrong ? please explain (I am not use to irc ).
<5> The_SB: don't worry, you haven't done anything.
<5> anything wrong, that is. :)
<2> integral: you know if there is some new bug with wget and `` ?
<5> no. But I have no idea how one'd use those together :)
<2> integral: hrm... i saw something the other day that made me wonder
<2> oh well
<11> integral: I know LWP and DBI - but this wil force me to write my own script - and before I do that I want to check alternatives.
<5> right, so we mentioned several. ht//dig, and swish-e for a start
<2> hell, there is probably already a web spider module
<5> oskit++
<11> sorry the above was for praves. integral and troytroy thank alot - isee that both dig and search-e has also perl API - which is great.
<1> Wtf
<1> Bingos
<12> what happens if i return a hash from a sub
<1> brockp: What do you think happens?
<5> brockp: well you can't. you can return a list, and hashes will flatten into lists
<2> brockp: it will get flattened into a list
<2> finally, i get something correct!
<12> ok ill stick with refs then
<2> brockp: stick with whatever works for you
<5> eval: 0x500
<5> bleh. :-(
<2> buu's bot is dead
<5> RAIB
<13> integral: /script exec print 0x500
<5> yeah. i just do cmd-n though since it's got multiple lines to edit the cmd on
<14> how picky is carpout() in CGI::Carp - it seems only to accept filehandles to open'ed files
<14> not IO::Scalars or handles opened on ">",\$variables
<5> ugh, yet another module from an author with attitude.
<5> torbjorn: it calls fileno(). which only works on real handles
<14> ah i see. bummer.
<5> it dups your filehandle to *STDERR
<5> ah ha! oskit setups its memory allocation using precisely the algorithm I was just thinking of. excellent!
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