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<0> simcop2387-home: not a cheap solution though, unfortunately
<1> hobbs: according to google and ebay, $20
<1> ah seems the card has to support it i wonder what that entails, resolution and refresh rate probably
<1> the vga to component converters don't seem to support more than 1024x768 so those are right out
<0> simcop2387-home: the DVI one probably only converts from DVI-A
<0> simcop2387-home: and the VGA converter shouldn't care about resolution. The 9A60 certainly doesn't
<1> hobbs: i'm going by what the pages say
<2> simcop2387-home: i want to share a tie'ed hash for a book keeping thread that updates a stack when another thread->join()'s
<0> simcop2387-home: It doesn't do any scaling or converting -- you just set up your video card, and if it matches a valid ATSC timing you get a picture
<0> simcop2387-home: and if it doesn't you don't :)
<3> czthwrk: yeah, it went well
<1> hobbs: neat
<1> shift8: should just have to worry about locking then
<3> He just started talking about what projects I'll be on next, and what will change when I become a full time employee
<0> simcop2387-home: so if you can produce 1280x720@60 on your video card, you're set. There are even howtos on the mythtv wiki
<1> hobbs: seems like matrox makes a video card that does it naitively that'd probably be my safest bet
<1> hobbs: cool
<1> but its the most expensive :)
<1> pci express x16 and dual head
<0> sili: http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Video/9a60.asp
<0> sili: for MythTV you just have to replace "powerstrip" with "modeline tweaking and xvidtune" :)
<4> who were the BSD gurus the other day? BinGOs ?
<5> I use FreeBSD.
<4> I was just curious whether I could install it on a Mac. :)
<5> Guru, however, is a loaded term.
<0> but are you a gu-ru?
<5> FreeBSD 6.0 has *experimental* PowerPC support.
<4> Ah
<4> I'll stick with Gentoo then
<4> It's tested =)
<5> I don't know what *experimental* means, though.
<4> I'll put FBSD on my x86 laptop and Gentoo on the Mac.
<5> Of course, OS X is FreeBSD-based.
<4> Yes indeed...
<4> But I'm not a huge fan of the interface...
<6> i wouldn't trust FreeBSD on anything but x86 platforms
<5> I prefer OS X to Linux is a rather extreme way.
<5> FreeBSD works very well on Sparc and a couple of other architectures.
<4> Cool..
<0> Yaakov: I couldn't get past the colored buttons in the titlebar which give no indication of what they do by their appearance, have no tooltip or anything similar, and remain just as mysterious _after_ you click them.
<6> for quite some time, FreeBSD's goal was to be the best x86 *nix platform
<6> porting to other architectures is fairly recent iirc
<5> hobbs: Red, close; yellow gets a - in it when you hover, minimize; gree, gets a plus, maximize.
<0> pravus: how goes?
<5> hobbs: I didn't have even a moment of confusion.
<6> hobbs: so, so... you?
<5> hobbs: So I can't sympathize.
<3> man
<6> Yaakov: i thought red just closed the window though
<3> using xslt in replacement of a templating engine is so easy
<6> don't you have to hit pinwheel-c or something to actually halt the applicatoin?
<3> but using xslt for real, solid applications can be a bitch
<5> pravus: That depends on the application and it often a preference.
<0> pravus: doing alright
<6> Yaakov: ah... ok
<5> I don't like the menu at the top thing, it is my least favorite part of the interface.
<5> OS X isn't even close to perfect, I just find it much better than Linux.
<0> Yaakov: proof that KDE steals the good bits from Apple and GNOME steals the bad bits? ;)
<7> I feel like an idiot, how do you tell the size of a scalar holding a string? I forgot...
<5> I do prefer KDE to Gnome.
<0> pianoboy3333: length?
<7> hobbs: yes
<0> pianoboy3333: length
<6> i've never understood Gnome's "we know how to use a computer so you don't get to choose how things work" philosophy
<7> ok
<8> go avalanche!
<4> I wonder how well this PowerMac g4 350mhz, 512mb ram will run linux...
<6> i've never heard bad stuff about PowerPC linux
<0> dec_: I'd say pretty acceptably
<6> i have a friend with a Mac, but he won't put linux on it
<8> friends don't let friends use mac!
<9> my crappy perl program is nearing 1000 lines in length
<8> j/k! i bet that machine owns.
<9> should i delete it and start over?
<6> boogiemon: unless of course the only other option is windows :/
<6> dogmeat: that'd be about 5000 lines of pl/sql... fyi
<9> pravus, better keep a backup in that case :-)
<8> pravus: surly you mean intel or amd?
<6> boogiemon: pick your poison
<4> boogiemon - the other option is a Pentium2 - 350mhz with 600mb ram and a VERY slow 4gb hard drive.
<4> I'd prefer the mac
<4> And it looks prettier. :)
<10> There are some really cute laptops with DVD format screens from other makers ...
<8> http://mybeckspeedster.com/ http://beckspeedster.com http://lotuscars.com/ pretty!
<10> and Turion64 isn't a dead end chip like the PowerPC ...
<10> :-)
<10> ( I really like the Power4/Power5/Power6 ... not wanting to say anything bad re PowerPC)
<7> Is there some variable to use to detect the user's operating system?
<11> $^O
<12> pianoboy3333: perldoc perlvar
<13> The perldoc for perlvar - Perl predefined variables is at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlvar.html
<0> wow. This TV is available in 50", 56", 61" and 70"
<8> hobbs: that isn't a question is it?
<0> no
<8> =-)
<6> hobbs: samsung?
<0> yeah
<0> although apparently the 70's been replaced by a 71
<6> i've got last year's 61". supremo
<5> bill_n1vux: The Mac screen is wide but NOT HDTV aspect ratio.
<14> Hello chaps and chapettes. I'm quite familiar with the Perl-style of doing things like "foo() or die('It failed');", but can I do something like "if (foo()) { bar(); } else { die('It failed.'); }" ?
<15> creature: why not?
<0> pravus: DLP is as nice as I think it should be?
<14> Because Perl is counterintuitive and so I'd expect to find a landmine or something in my way.
<8> creature: why not use die?
<6> hobbs: when i looked it was as good as everything else in its price range
<5> Perl is ULTRAintuitive.
<0> creature: it's not counterintuitive unless you have some bad intuits.
<15> creature: get better intuition :-)
<16> creature, execution stops at the die
<8> creature: there's croak and warn as well, if you don't want your prog to die. perldoc Carp
<13> The perldoc for Carp - is at http://perldoc.perl.org/Carp.html
<5> Perl is the utlimate DWIM language.
<6> hobbs: some of the plasmas looked a bit better, but i couldn't tell the difference between the DLP and LCDs
<16> so you might as well not even make another block for it
<14> Well, that's just a convenient shorthand. In this case I want to take evasive action if something fails; something multi-statement.
<16> die "it failed" unless foo; bar;
<2> "creature, execution stops at the die" - bwahHaHa! what a quote.
<14> I wasn't sure if I'd have to do something else if I used it in an if/else block; I'd imagine it would depend a bit on the implementation.
<2> says the zegnatronic metal overloards of baznergot
<0> creature: stop imagining :)
<16> indeed
<16> perl has really great syntax for pretty much every common syntactical problem
<16> perldoc perlsyn
<13> The perldoc for perlsyn - Perl syntax is at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html
<15> SubStack: what, like switch?
<8> Yaakov: use Spoon;
<16> sssssh
<0> mmm, these headphones are pretty enjoyable
<0> and I only overpaid by $20!
<8> hobbs: sony digital studio?
<0> boogiemon: Koss Quiet Zone
<14> hobbs - fair enough.
<0> boogiemon: the noise-reduction feature introduces a fair bit of hiss, but I only intend to turn it on in airplanes and such, where I won't be able to notice that anyway ;)
<8> hobbs: i haven't tried any of the noise cancelling headphones, don't trust them as far as fidelity goes.
<8> hobbs: but then again, i still listen to LPs. =-)
<0> boogiemon: well, you turn it off and it goes all p***ive
<8> hobbs: oh really? my my my
<0> boogiemon: that's pretty much standard, as a battery-saving feature as much as anything ;)
<8> hahaha
<0> boogiemon: in any case, I've got a pair of Sonys that I like pretty well, but they have a real sensitivity problem. Off of a portable source I just can't make them loud enough to compete with any sort of noise source
<8> i may have to check into that technology. it may be time to retire my 10 year old headphones....
<0> boogiemon: these are a good deal louder, and when it comes to buses and airplanes I also have the NC option
<2> hobbs: the "anti-noise" will interfere with the frequency range of the noise source in the music as well.
<8> shift8: good point. i listen to a lot of "noise" music.
<8> i wonder what noise cancelling headphones would do to that sound? hehehe
<0> shift8: but you understand that the alternative is "I know there's some music playing, and I can _almost_ hear it over this airplane!"
<14> boogiemon: That's not how they work.
<2> boogiemon: anti-noise in this sense is sound generated with the inverse phase of the sampled external noise that it's try to cancel.
<0> boogiemon: probably not much. They isolate the inside and outside for that reason so it shouldn't hear your music :)
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