| |
| |
| |
|
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
Comments:
<0> reflous: one very nifty property of UTF-8 is that ASCII is ASCII. no multi-byte characters contain *any* ASCII bytes in them, they *all* have the high bit set (so they're in the range 0x80 - 0xff)
<1> perltut string
<1> !perltut string
<2> perlbot perltut
<1> ...Ehm, what's the tutorial bot command?
<3> Tutorials and books: http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html - http://library.psyon.org/programming/perl/win32perltut.html (for all platforms) - http://books.perl.org/onlinebooks
<0> so if you see an ASCII character in a UTF-8 string, you know it's not part of some other sequence, but it really is an ASCII character
<1> Thank you.
<0> this is perhaps the most important property of UTF-8, which makes it better than UTF-16 and UTF-32 and those others, for many purposes
<2> peterS: I feel like writing a fully sql compliant mail client
<0> what does a sql compliant mail client mean?
<0> you mean store messages in a database? hey, you could call it Exchange
<1> The seconed link is broke...
<4> judge hershey isn't bad
<2> peterS: Something hideous and evil like that
<2> peterS: It'd be nice to be able to define a particular view via sql some how
<5> ... storing messages in a database isn't a bad idea.
<2> Of course I'm also considering writing a irc client that uses sql, so you might want to ignore me
<4> yeah, its called Email::Store
<0> buu: I don't quite see how you represent arbitrary headers in a form that makes it convenient to sort them using SQL
<2> peterS: Neither do I =[
<6> peterS: ok so I ran that iconv, but it didn't change the utf-8 dash into a regular dash.. or is that not what the iconv does
<7> One could just separate all the componenets into different columns, but *how* you do that is the tricky thing.
<0> reflous: it's a unix filter, so it takes input as filenames or stdin, and produces output on stdout. is that how you're using it/
<5> peterS: email headers aren't quite arbitrary there is an rfc for them
<0> oh really? would you be referring to rfc 2822?
<4> but it is extendible
<2> ecarroll: The RFC includes arbitrary ones.
<0> I'm sure I've never heard of RFC 2822
<8> thinkinginbinary: 10001110001!
<0> 0x471?
<0> what does that mean?
<9> arubin: you lose. that's an old joke.
<9> Does anyone here know a good geek-friendly domain registrar?
<8> peterS: that is between me and thinkinginbinary nosy
<4> what's wrong with netsol.com
<8> jdv79: other than their pact with Satan?
<0> dunno, they all seem more or less equivalent. godaddy.com was cheaper than some others last time the issue came up for me
<4> yeah, other than that
<6> peterS: yeah
<9> price is not an issue. pacts with satan are.
<0> before that it was totalregistrations.com but they jacked their prices up at some point in order to piss me off
<4> do you run windows?
<6> peterS: iconv -f utf-8 -t 1.txt > 2.txt
<4> arubin
<8> jdv79: no
<9> i wanna kill whoever thought of the idea of buying domains for the sole purpose of wasting them or selling them.
<0> reflous: -t requires an output encoding name, like iso-8859-1
<6> peterS: sorry I truncated that, I had that too
<2> thinkinginbinary: I kind of agree =[
<0> reflous: -f "from this" -t "to that"
<6> peterS: iconv -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-1 1.txt > 2.txt
<9> buu: I should start a parallel alternative dns.
<8> thinkinginbinary: I support you in your muderous spree
<0> reflous: yeah that oughta work
<8> murderous
<2> thinkinginbinary: You do that.
<9> buu, peterS: If only I had the bandwidth.
<6> peterS: this is still a utf8 dash though
<0> reflous: it had better not be, it should have been converted to the single byte 0xad without the 0xc2 prefix
<9> Anyone know about pairNIC?
<8> limeys
<6> peterS: vi calls the file [converted] on the bottom of the screen, what does that mean?
<10> #vim :)
<0> reflous: I suspect that depends on your version of vi. the original vi didn't know anything about character conversions
<9> vim is awesome.
<6> dec: hehe
<6> peterS: well I still have the utf8 dash :(
<2> thinkinginbinary: Nobody would use it =[
<9> buu: :-b
<0> reflous: then I suggest you complain to the author of your version of vi, it's probably converting it for you or something
<0> reflous: do other apps besides vi see the two-byte character as well?
<6> peterS: more shows nothing
<6> peterS: the character is mia
<0> reflous: try 'xxd' which is shipped in the vim package. pretty good for seeing what the bytes look like
<6> c2ad
<2> Yay robots with chain saws!
<10> Much more fun that gorillas with sledgehammers
<10> s/that/than/
<0> well, c2 ad is very definitely the utf-8 encoding of U+00AD (I did the bit manipulation myself to verify), and iconv should very definitely convert that to a single byte 0xad when outputting iso-8859-1
<0> so I don't know what to tell you
<6> peterS: I just did iconv on a file that ONLY had the dash, and it converted, but if I try to do it with the real file its no good :(
<9> peterS: Locale issues?
<11> http://solace.is-a-geek.org/web-wisdom/
<6> peterS: actually iconv converted it to ad
<0> reflous: hmmm ... is the input file perhaps double-utf-8-converted? like it actually has "c3 82 c2 ad"? that's what you get if you convert 0xad from iso-8859-1 to utf-8 then convert *that* from iso-8859-1 to utf-8 *again*
<2> Hrm. I wonder what would be easier, Curses or Curse::Ui
<12> mrm...
<6> peterS: I don't think so, but the double conversion is a definite possibility
<12> anyone have any good examples of parsing a file that has header, detail, and footer sections?
<13> buu, with previous knowledge with POE I think both are easy
<0> reflous: the thing is, lots of utf-8 is valid iso-8859-1, so a double conversion is quite possible to achieve by accident. the reverse is not true, very little iso-8859-1 text is valid utf-8 (unless it's pure ASCII, which of course is a common subset of both)
<13> aahh wait, the one without POE.... right?
<13> buu, I find Cuirses::UI easy
<0> reflous: since utf-8 has rather unique bit patterns, you don't just produce valid utf-8 by spewing random bytes
<2> amnesiac: But it doesn't do exactly what I want
<13> like?
<13> I haven't used them a lot, just ncurses in C
<2> amnesiac: Like the List Control Widget
<6> peterS: I don't think so, but the double conversion is a definite possibility
<6> peterS: sorry
<6> peterS: that was an accident repeat
<14> I'm trying CGI::Ajax for the first time inside a CGI::Application using HTML::Template. I'm feeding the output of HTML::Template into CGI::Ajax and am getting some results where it looks like the headers for my pages are becoming a part of the page. Can anyone please help meto resolve this?
<2> No
<15> People said he was useless, those people all were fools
<12> TMM - too many modules!
<15> 'Cause Curtis Loew was the finest picker to ever play the blues
<2> hobbs: When are you getting your *** up here?
<15> buu: tomorrow
<2> Nice
<15> buu: Starting 6am
<12> hobbs: you really working @ buu's company?
<15> pravus: I sure hope so, otherwise I'm paying a lot for an apartment I can't afford
<12> :)
<10> buu - you have a company?
<2> hobbs: You have my cell right?
<12> well, the company buu works for i guess
<10> Oh :)
<15> buu: yeah
<2> Excellent.
<10> Where's my job, buu? :(
<12> dec: i have a problem saying the right thing
<2> dec: You should have applied
<10> What was the job?
<12> buu: job description?
<10> (just curious now :)
<12> jynx!
<12> sorta...
<12> dec: aren't you in .au?
<2> dec: Prostitutes
<10> pravus - Yup. Too far for me to move for a job... :)
<12> i need to get down there one day
<10> Not today, it's cold. *brrr*
<12> haul some *** on that big *** flat desert you have
<12> hrm... it is getting warm here. N vs S i guess
<15> It _was_ getting warm here
<15> and then it quit ;)
<2> Yeah it dropped down to like 30 again
<12> it's been around 75-80F here
<12> the more i use svn, the more i likes it
<10> it's 60F here, apparently... Temperature: 60 F (16 C)
<12> i wish my country would switch to metric... i really should learn all the conversions
<10> I don't know them, had to look it up. :)
<16> bah.
<16> just remember 20 is a bit warm
<10> You guys were talking about 30 F... no idea how warm/cold that is
<16> water freeses at 32
<12> well, if the world used metric (which apparently the US is about the only country that doesn't), it'd all be easy
Return to
#perl
or
Go to some related
logs:
#fluxbox
xubuntu libretto
qmail-ldap ldap proxy cache
gentoorun bittornado
k3b emoviex
#css
where do i get mcopy
can't read bitmap block
installing xman on ubuntu
#web
|
|