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<0> buu: You'll probably be happy to learn I found a security hole in my Golfbot. @ARGV = "/etc/p***wd"; <> But I fixed it by denying the :base_io optag..
<1> perl_cont: actually it might be vim that's causing my problem
<2> hmm
<2> ive started using xfce
<2> i _sortof_ like it
<2> im about to switch back to my ol fluxbox
<2> xfce trys way to hard to be usable, but still minimal
<2> and it blows on dual monitors
<3> fiendskull9: i love fluxbox... it's my personal favorite, and have it on all my systems.
<2> lol
<3> fiendskull9: not a huge fan of full blown Desktop Environments under *nix.
<2> im just booting back to it
<4> How can you detect the user by which the perl code is being run?
<2> i love gnome, but it ****s on dual monitors
<2> brb
<1> thanks guys. i'm chasing for vim help now (:
<5> Capso: perldoc perlvar, $< and $>
<6> Capso: Type 'perldoc perlvar' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlvar.html
<5> Capso: and $( and $)
<4> Hobbs: Alright, thanks.
<0> Or $ENV{USER}
<5> Eidolos: I wouldn't use that for anything vaguely important ;)
<0> hobbs: shrug :)
<5> sh -c 'USER=root perl foo.pl'
<4> ;P
<4> That's true.
<7> In perlmod there is a template for writing non-OO modules and it has package globals like $VERSION, @EXPORT, etc. in BEGIN { } block? Why is that? I have usually seen that they are just put in the file scope not specially in BEGIN.
<2> ahh
<2> back in ol flux
<2> ispy_: is your flux pretty default? or have u hacked it up
<4> You can specify full paths for binaries with 'open', right?
<3> fiendskull9: i've hacked the **** outta it dude :)
<0> Capso: Er. yes?
<4> I.e.: open my $var, '/sbin/ifconfig|' ?
<8> Woah
<8> So I buy a camera
<2> ispy_: is it very good looking?
<8> And I plug it in
<8> An Linux is all like, "Do you want to import these photos?"
<2> i used to use a hacked up ver, but now im riding pretty default
<8> Will wonders never cease
<5> Capso: sure. In fact, you generally should
<5> Capso: better, open my $var, '-|', '/sbin/ifconfig', @args_if_any;
<3> fiendskull9: i think so... using idesk, torsmo, and i've really worked up the menu's fairly nice... full transparency, rounded corners all that ****...
<4> hobbs: Alright.
<2> ispy_: i never had luck installing themes
<5> fiendskull9: I haven't found a window manager of any sort that does quite what I want on dual-head -- but e17 comes close.
<4> hobbs: Oh, alright.
<3> fiendskull9: really? i wrote my own actually... based on another ofcourse...
<2> hobbs: yeah, flux and openbox are my choices for dual monitors
<4> hobbs: open my $var, '-|', '/sbin/ifconfig', @args_if_any or die "Blah"; -- That works?
<5> Capso: that's got the advantages of the 'list form' exec/system
<5> Capso: yes
<4> Nice.
<5> Capso: that way you don't get shell mangling, you don't have to worry about quoting, escaping, PATH, etc.
<5> Capso: the ifconfig you get will be /sbin/ifconfig, and the args it gets will be exactly those in that array
<4> hobbs: Ah... very neat. :D
<2> ispy_: im using starterbar (gdesklets) for icons
<2> and been using the "Operation" style
<3> fiendskull9: really? i heard good things... really idesk worked great for me, using transparent icons as well.. so my random wallpaper always blends in nice with the transparency.
<3> fiendskull9: even using a slight tweaked xcompmgr config... transparent web browsing and such...
<4> hobbs: Perhaps, could you remind me how to dump data from hashes?
<3> fiendskull9: it's pretty crazy, i got a little carried away...
<5> Capso: you mean like Data::Dumper?
<4> hobbs: A bit extremely used to PHP ... can't remember the perl... was it Data::Dumper? Something like that?
<4> hobbs: Ah, yeah.
<2> ispy_: you have to hand edit entrys for every icon for idesk tho right?
<2> im a pretty drag and drop typa guy
<9> I just read: "I'm a pretty drag"
<2> and i have conky on my second monitor
<2> jkauffman: nice
<2> rofl
<2> i reccomend conky to anyone
<2> its hot****
<3> fiendskull9: yeah i do all my fluxbox/idesk editing via textfiles... i feel i have more control that way.
<2> yeah
<3> fiendskull9: and i don't use a file manager... i'm straight console... gotta keep those skills fresh :)
<2> is your themed packaged?
<2> or is it everywhere:P
<4> hobbs: Any way to invoke other Perl scripts from Perl?
<3> fiendskull9: it's packaged...
<4> hobbs: And use their vars, etc.?
<3> fiendskull9: i also use aterm as my terminal proggie under x
<2> could you email it to me?
<2> fiendskull9@gmail.com
<10> Capso, it's nicest if you can set them up as modules. see system, ``, exec IIRC
<5> Capso: yes no maybe :)
<10> Capso, also load
<10> errr, require
<5> Capso: look into 'require', but using them as modules is a lot more organized and useful :)
<4> Alright.
<9> pstickne: hey, you haven't died in iraq yet
<4> Where's the docs on modules, again?
<3> fiendskull9: sure... but what version are you running of fluxbox, i'm still using a slight older version... about a month old, not 1.0 though so i can't promise that it will work.
<10> jkauffman, no, no, I'm done with all that ;P
<9> pstickne: YOU WON THE WAR?! congratulations!
<2> .9.14
<9> pstickne: how did you do it?
<3> fiendskull9: should work... i'll upload it now...
<10> jkauffman, haha, no, I just said _I'm_ done with all that :p
<10> jkauffman, taking a break for schooling (and now a break between school terms :)
<3> fiendskull9: you will want to set your alphas to around 115 or so for it to look tight.
<9> pstickne: went AWOL!? I'd better get on the phone and turn you in!
<2> ok
<10> jkauffman, lol, they can't keep you forever
<9> pstickne: did you ever actually have to go through training where a guy yells in your face and you have to go "SIR YES SIR"?
<10> no sir at Army training. even the CO was "captain"
<9> okay
<10> but when you go to medical unit, too many sir's/mam's for all the doctos :(
<9> so did you have to do what I described but with different words?
<4> pstickne: If you already said it, I didn't get it... could you tell me once more, where the docs for modules resides?
<10> jkauffman, hehe, a brief period of time years and years ago
<10> Capso, which modules?
<10> perlfun is nice
<5> jkauffman: what war in Iraq? We accomplished our mission there in 2003, and from what I here there's been absolutely no combat since ;)
<10> errr, perlfunc
<5> s/here/hear/ # mmf
<10> hobbs, :x
<9> pstickne: was there a guy who was a big fat pig who was really lazy who got everyone else in trouble but eventually shaped up but then ****ed up again and decided to shoot himself in the bathroom?
<10> jkauffman, lol, no.
<10> jkauffman, you've seen FMJ recently, no?
<9> pstickne: movies don't lie, so you must be
<9> pstickne: I saw it 10 years ago
<9> but the memory lingers...
<10> It was quite a powerful movie.
<10> Southen, does anyone remember the ending of Battlefield Earth? (did anyone watch that movie to the end?)
<10> errr, autocomplete is making me look like a 'tard
<5> you are a 'tard if you have autocomplete on ;)
<9> pstickne: nope. what happens in the end
<5> pstickne: settings, preferences, input box, automatic nick completion, uncheck it or baby jesus will cry.
<8> It just took me six tries to spell "flickr"
<10> jkauffman, I think there was a whole ton of crappy effect, dunno :(
<3> fiendskull9: sent, make sure you put it in your styles folder under ~/.fluxbox/styles/
<11> pstickne: In the *book*..
<2> alright
<11> They blew up the .. whoever they were
<10> buu, there was a book? :x
<11> psyclons or something
<4> pstickne: Some howto of using modules as a method of invoking other Perl scripts in Perl and using their var, etc. data...
<11> Whatever the **** the aliens were called.
<10> hobbs, thanks :P
<9> the killer klowns
<2> ispy_: im gettin back in the fluxbox mindset again
<2> lol
<11> They sent a nuke through, destroyed their planet, then joined the intergalactic bank, took out some loans and beefed up earth
<5> pstickne: also, changing the completion character from comma back to colon is nice :)
<3> haha...
<11> And I'm really serious.
<9> buu: wow, so there are jews even in the future!
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