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<0> And no repetitive motion disorders, because no repetitive motions.
<1> I type about the same when I am moving along, I never figured out how many fingers I use and as I type this it is not easy to tell.
<1> It seems to be right thumb plus three fingers on each hand with two on each getting the most traffic.
<1> For many years I looked at my hands while I typed, then one day I noticed I was not looking.
<1> My speed is quite variable, though. I am not sure why. My peak normal is about 70, average typing along is probably 50. But I do more an less for reasons that aren't at all clear. I should figure it out. I know that I am very sensitive to position in front of the keyboard.
<2> I bought the Microsoft Typing tutor for TRS-80 when I was 15. from there it's been down hill.
<3> I do about 90, am not a touch-typist, and it drops to around 60 when it's ****ing cold.
<3> I am also completely unable to not type like a 4-year-old when using a non-msnatural keyboard.
<1> My wife is a touch-typist and gets a sustained 80 from copy. I can't do copy.
<3> ..copy?
<1> Reading from a page and typing it.
<1> She goes considerably faster out-of-mind.
<3> I thought it was some sort of fancy typist-testing software with a cutsey name. :(
<1> She used to do data entry at 12,000 keystrokes per hour.
<1> On a 10-key.
<3> Jesus tap-dancing christ.
<1> I could never learn to touch type.
<3> I learned to type before anyone though to teach me to touch-type.
<1> Just doesn't mesh with my personality.
<2> you can get faster by working with one of the typing tutor programs.
<1> Anything rote is a problem for me.
<1> cfedde: Yes, or just typing!
<1> cfedde: That is how I learned to type, just doing it.
<3> That's like saying you can learn proper grammar by hanging out on IRC.
<2> Yaakov: I find that the exercises are a good thing to mix in.
<1> ew73: You can: 1/IRC = good talkin'
<3> Ow. My head.
<2> my son has recently discovered haxor..... It's driving me crazy.
<1> IRC has improved my vocabulary.
<2> irc has improved my typing. and (beleave it or not) my spelling.
<2> my grammar is still teh ****z
<1> When I want to use a word, I can check the definition on-the-spot. This has allowed me to improve my understanding of words that I "know" but don't really know.
<1> I am pleased that I almost universally want to use them properly, but I have learned quite a bit about them this way.
<2> I should learn more about irssi and write a spelling plugin.
<2> sure. nothing like having dict in the window next door
<1> I should do a Net::Dict window thing.
<2> also a good command line interface to google
<1> But I hate writing things for irssi, so I wont.
<1> Hey, I could use xmath's one-liner.
<1> Just eval it!
<2> xmath's one liner?
<1> Yes!
<2> I'd google but...
<1> perl -le 'connect$|=socket(1,2,1,$/=select+1),pack sa14,2,"\nDA\cS\213,";print"d ! @ARGV\nq\n";print$/ +<1>=~/".+?$(.*?)^\./sm' word
<1> Trouble is, I can't remember how to tell irssi to evaluate perl.
<1> Oh well.
<4> Hi there, I'm trying to use Audio::Scrobbler, cannot however identify what goes in cfg => { ... }, I don't understand the perldocs, and scrobbler-helper just errors - could someone parse a sample line of new Audio::Scrobbler( cfg=>{ ... }) please ?
<5> Well that was brief
<6> raar, did you read the perldoc? it very clearly states where you can find what should go into the cfg hash
<2> 2
<4> it says stuff about the handshake (yes, I've read it as stated), but don't understand in which format it should be inserted
<1> cfedde: Did you see the one-liner?
<6> raar, { foo => "bar", etc => "like this" }, naturally.
<2> Yaakov: yup.
<2> such things always frighten me.
<2> I'm not nearly that smart.
<4> $scrob = new Audio::Scrobbler( cfg => { progname=>"qlb", progver=>"1.0", username=>"raar", p***word=>"stuff"}); <- like that? - it gives an error, namely: Can't use string ("artist") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Audio/Scrobbler.pm line 269.
<4> therefore I was ***uming I had the whole format wrong
<1> cfedde: s/smart/obsessed/
<7> Yaakov: /script exec ...
<2> Yaakov: one is a good substutute for the other at times.
<8> "raar" at 82.45.116.56 pasted "Audio::Scrobbler usage" (11 lines, 444B) at http://sial.org/pbot/15740
<4> That pretty much sums my confusion up
<1> mauke: Thanks.
<2> raar: I suspect that you are missunderstanding what the submit method expects as arguments. Try wrapping the wholelist of args in {...}
<2> raar: keep in mind that I have no idea what Audio::Scrobbler is or why one would need one.
<4> ah okay, I will try that
<9> how is $:: different from $main::?
<6> raar, that looks okay, actually, at least according to the perldoc. keep in mind it's a 0.1 version :)
<7> hax: AFAIK it isn't
<9> mauke: i'm looking at a .pl that uses both, and its by OnLAMP
<9> mauke: so... either they don't know what the hell they're talking about...
<9> mauke: or it makes some difference
<3> bhwaha. postgres -> gd::graph -> ajax
<4> wolverian: ah, well thanks for confirming :) I'm still confused why it won't work, but I guess I'll spend some hours puzzling and give up afterwards :-/
<10> Hrm... where's strftime() ?
<7> POSIX?
<9> ew73: you ninja
<10> Ahh yes; there it is
<9> ew73: lemme seee
<3> Alas, it is on an Internal server. :(
<3> But let me ***ure you, there is much ***y coolness there.
<11> any suggestion on a quick way to "encrypt" (one-way) a p***word phrase? i just need something to securely store my p***words
<9> ew73: but i wanna see :(
<11> or my users p***words that, in cookies
<9> tech: md5, sha1...
<9> tech: but that should never make its way into a cookie
<10> crypt() is the standard way; but it might be considered a bit weak these days
<10> md5 / sha1 / foorandom other crypto hash might be better
<11> hax, why not ? :P
<9> tech: for obvious reasons
<11> hax, but storing p***words in a encrypted form is common
<9> tech: storing them on the client is just bad practice
<12> tech: sure, but it may not be as secure as other hashes
<9> in reality it won't "do" anything wrong
<9> but its just a bad practice
<11> hax, so you think i should just a session-based system?
<9> tech: yes
<9> tech: 100% yes
<9> VERY yes
<12> of course, since an attacker can just feed back the encrypted p***word to you, you don't really gain anything at all
<12> (until the salt changes, anyway)
<13> mmm, replay attacks
<13> some systems involve the time and the address in the procotol to avoid those
<12> yeah, anything that relies on stored information to do a login/authentication is vulernable to replay attacks from the same machine
<12> (or in what is probably the more common case, having the entire machine trojaned...)
<13> ahh, Windows
<3> Ahh.
<3> I just developed the biggested smackdown evah.
<3> On the topic of gay marriage, someone compared gays marrying to pedophiles marrying children.
<3> And claimed that being gay was a choice. I was like, "No, but there is a choice, it's the same one Lincoln and Johnson made."
<14> wow, some graphics libs are pretty bad, using default values
<4> is being pedophile a choice then?
<10> Is being gay a choice?
<10> More to the point... is it on-topic for Perl? :)
<4> Audio::Scrobbler is being gay, is this its choice or is it destiny?
<5> ew73: What?
<9> what does 'use vars' do?
<7> perldoc vars
<15> The perldoc for vars is at http://perldoc.perl.org/vars.html
<9> there we go
<16> I need to make a GUI for a perl application - Tk seems pretty easy, but it pretty ugly... Would be better to learn something new, or try to make Tk look decent?
<17> don't worry about looks...
<11> how can i get header from CGI.pm to allow multiple headers? so i could do multiple headers from various places in my program then it adds an extra new line before i'm printing out the content
<16> tybalt89, Well, this application NEEDS to look good (my high school does a "gameshow night" as a fundraiser, and we're going to try to computerize a family-feud score board.)
<18> pm2: there's wx too
<18> or just use opengl and go nut
<16> sphex, I probably don't want anything as low-level as opengl, but wx looks interesting
<5> tech: You can't.
<5> 10 minute non escapable intros **** ***.
<19> pm2: I prefer Gtk2.pm
<11> buu, i figured out a way, storing it in an array then header(@array);
<1> Flash would be pretty good, if you knew how to use it.
<20> i hate flash
<20> well, the software itself isn't so bad. it's just very abused and not free.
<20> or open
<21> The software does ****
<11> how do i override a module function with my own local function?
<20> b0at: more and more as javascript+css advance.
<20> hello hoobs
<22> helo smeli
<7> tech: what are you trying to do?
<20> HELO
<20> OK
<11> mauke, basicly, the CGI::param function ignores GET values if there is POST values, i want to create a wrapper function (preferably by the same name) to allow both
<22> how about you just rewrite CGI.pm until it doesn't ****? It's long overdue :)
<11> I don't think it ****, I don't think I should hack it to my needs, a wrapper would be good enough :p
<22> it does ****
<20> stupid muslims
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