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<0> sorry, cabdef
<1> so a rotate?
<2> guys
<2> how can I get elements from 1 .. <last minus 1> in array without shifting ?
<3> oops, no.
<1> unshift @array, splice @array, $selected_item, 1;
<1> that'll do it
<4> eval: @x = qw(a b c d e f); unshift @x, splice @x, 2, 1; \@x
<1> where $selected_item = 2 for "c"
<5> mauke: ['c','a','b','d','e','f']
<4> eval: use List::Util 'first';
<5> mauke:
<1> although that's a bit more expensive than you might want
<1> if you're doing a lot of work
<6> Sir_J: 1 .. $#array - 2 ?
<6> Or rather -1



<4> eval: use List::Util 'first'; @x = qw(a b c d e f); unshift @x, splice @x, (first { $x[$_] eq 'c' } 0 .. $#x), 1; \@x
<5> mauke: ['c','a','b','d','e','f']
<1> 1..$#array-1 leaves out the first and last elements
<1> mauke++
<0> mauke, that searches for 'c' and moves it first, right?
<4> right
<0> core: List::Util
<5> List::Util was added to Perl5.007003
<0> thanks guys
<1> eval: @x = ('a'..'f'); $n = 2; @x[0..$n] = @x[$n, 0..($n-1)]; \@x
<5> merlyn: ['c','a','b','d','e','f']
<1> that's a bit more efficient, I think
<1> array slice ***ignlemtn
<0> what's "\@x" ... some bot input?
<4> reference to @x
<1> it takes a reference to @x so that Dumper does the right thing
<2> Ani-_, $#array is a very long expression
<0> ok
<1> it's the way for us to show @x at the end
<1> eval: @x = ('a'..'f'); $n = 2; @x[0..$n] = @x[$n, 0..($n-1)]; join ", ", @x
<5> merlyn: c, a, b, d, e, f
<6> Sir_J: my $last_element = $#array; 1 .. $last_element -1;
<1> that's another way
<2> like $a->{...}...->{...}..............->, so to get $#array is not convinient
<1> Sir_J - ***ign it somewhere then
<1> my @result = do { my @temp = COMPLEX THING HERE; @temp[1..$#temp] }
<7> Shuttle is about to launch.
<1> for some meaning of shuttle, and launch, and about. :)
<7> Space SHuttle, Nasa, thrust into the air with possible explosion.
<2> is this right (undef, @newarr) = @arr ?
<1> there are days when I wished I actually had food in the house
<1> Sir_J to do what?
<1> @newarr = @arr[1..$#arr] is simpler
<2> to get all elements from array without first
<2> I have no exactly @arr
<6> Then perhaps you should start by telling what you DO have.
<1> Sir_J - I just showed you what you can do
<2> but very cimplicated construction which returns array like $a->{...}...->...
<1> ... my @result = do { my @temp = COMPLEX THING HERE; @temp[1..$#temp] }
<1> pay attention
<2> merlyn, my way is simplier
<6> You are talking about an array. Are you sure you have an ARRAY? And not a LIST?
<8> z0mg what is this list you speak of
<2> Ani-_, definitely list :)
<6> Then why are you speaking since the start of an array?
<2> just example
<6> An example of a thing you are not using? And thus not having trouble with?
<9> happy 4th of july everyone
<10> go nasa! that was bad ***.
<2> I've just asked if this is the simplier/best way of getting the whole list without first element
<2> I mean --> (undef, @newarr) = @arr
<1> Sir_J - I accuse you of XY problems
<9> they launched it ?
<7> Yes.
<10> r3nd3r: you know it
<6> Again you are giving an example of an ARRAY. Not of a LIST.
<6> If it is an ARRAY then it is not the BEST way. If it is a list then maybe.
<2> merlyn, what is XY ?
<1> perlbot, xy problem
<11> They ask how to do X, but that's because they really want to do Y but think X will get them there and most of the time they are WRONG



<1> basically, you gave us such a small part of the problem that the solutions are convoluted
<1> but if you back up a step, we might be able to tell you a far better way to do it
<2> I mean --> (undef, @newarr) = <some expression which returns a list>
<10> you guys are killing him.
<1> Sir_J - that's ugly. time to back up a step!
<1> YOU HAVE: complex expression returning a list
<2> merlyn, ok-ok
<1> YOU WANT: list minus first and last element
<1> SOLUTION IS: (as I've said before)
<2> nope
<2> just <some complex expression without first element>
<1> what generates the list?
<1> can you ask that to not spit out the first element?
<1> this is why it's an XY problem
<1> you need to back up a step
<12> eval: @foo = qw(a b c d); @bar = @foo[1..@foo]; \@bar;
<5> eggzeck: ['b','c','d',undef]
<1> eggzeck - off by one
<6> ... Typical. Initially you said: '1 .. <last minus 1> in array'. Now you are saying you just don't want the first element. Make up your mind.
<1> $#foo not @foo
<12> Ahh yes :)
<13> is it possible to store a cl*** in a variable? I'm thinking something like $foo = \Actions::Cl***Name; then $foo->new() will instantiate the cl*** $foo?
<1> Ani-_ - right
<1> just $foo = "Actions::Cl***Name"
<1> that'll work fine
<1> no need for a reference
<14> seen tag
<1> that's how all constructors work anyway. :)
<14> .seen tag
<15> tag was last seen one day, 39 minutes and 2 seconds ago, quitting FreeNode ("leaving").
<13> got it. Thanks merlyn.
<9> 3.9 kernel ?
<9> FreeBSD ?
<16> openbsd maybe
<14> definitely obsd
<17> OpenBSD just release 3.9 not too long ago
<16> freebsd is in version 6 or something
<3> also, he spoke of the upgrade some hous ago.
<14> I mean it is definitely OpenBSD as merlyn uses that.
<3> BinGOs has a database.
<17> yes, merlyn uses OpenBSD and OS-X if i am not mistaken
<14> Please to not be doubting meh.
<17> all hail the might BinGOs !
<17> damnit i can't type today
<14> >:)
<14> Damn it, I wish this download would hurry up.
<17> what are you downloading?
<14> Enemy Territory Fortress
<17> is that an add-on to ET or a new game entirely?
<14> add-on to ET
<14> me neither tbh.
<14> I know these lunatics who play it. They have a PoCo-IRC based bot logging server traffic to an IRC channel.
<14> pretty neat really.
<17> yeah, that is neat
<14> does rcon stuff as well. People in the IRC channel can send messages to the server etc.
<17> hah.. you could echo the console output to IRC probably. that would be ... interesting
<18> BinGOs: Does it use the rcon component?
<14> Nope.
<17> BinGOs: now that is nice
<18> Aww. dw will be sad.
<14> dngor: remember helios, well it is his bot.
<14> it uses FollowTail on the server logfile from what I can gather.
<14> \o/ dl complete and installing.
<19> "DrCurl" at 132.203.103.174 pasted "Filling a hash with array elements. What's wrong with this? I get syntax error at ARErandom.pl line 4, near ") {"" (8 lines, 154B) at http://sial.org/pbot/18209
<20> Hi BinGOs, dngor, pravus
<20> BinGOs: are you using Windows?
<17> rindolf: ahoy!
<20> BinGOs: I mean using Perl on Windows.
<21> DrCurl: missing ;
<22> oups
<20> pravus: ahoy matey!


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