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<0> well, apache runs as a user (normally www, or nobody)
<1> tkp - as I said, I understand that
<0> ok
<1> there's no place in the system that registers "env vars" for a "user"
<0> right
<1> (Unless you're running on OSX :)
<0> that explains a few thing then :)
<2> ok, i am just trying to install a module, when i run perl -MCPAN -e shell, then 'install DateTime::Format::DateManip', it tries to fetch //ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz and basically just sits there... how can i push it forwards?
<1> do it interactively first
<1> and possibly might need to reconfigure from scratch
<1> "o conf init"
<1> then "o conf commit"
<1> and if you need to have FTP proxy enabled, there's an envar you must set
<1> I mean "p***ive"
<1> you might need "export FTP_P***IVE=1"
<2> what is the links program it's asking me for?
<1> (adjusted for your shell)
<1> you probably don't have that. don't worry
<1> you just need *something* that can download http from the net
<1> actually - you don't.. you can bootstrap LWP once you get initialized
<1> generally - just hit return a lot. :)
<2> thanks for your help merlyn
<2> god this is complex
<1> the first time, yes
<1> you need to tell CPAN.pm how to plug into the network
<1> and how to build things locally
<2> i more mean the whole sequence of events that led me here..
<1> yes. welcome to yak shaving
<1> wiki: yak shaving
<3> 'Yak shaving' is a neologism which describes the act of performing seemingly unrelated and often annoying tasks which stand in the way of an ultimate goal.
<1> imagine having also to install irc to get to talk to us to get this solution. :)
<4> lol
<5> hi, i need the user to download a file stored under the web www folder when he clicks a link, i'm using perl and mason, is $r->internal_redirect_handler the way to do it? (doesn't work)
<2> hah.. well try this..
<1> that will present the file to the user, unless soemthing is broken
<2> i upgraded my mysql server the other day.. which trashed one of my databases for mythtv.. so i had to rebuild that.. and lost all my epg guide data... so i went to the site to download it.. but my ip got blacklisted... so i tried to d/l a screen scraping script to get my guide data.. but of course i need all these perl modules... so here i am :]
<1> heh
<2> and of course i need this to be done before the italy v germany match in a few hours!
<1> heh
<2> good lord it seems to have worked! thanks merlyn
<5> can you help me now? :p
<1> Kilbor - already gave an answer
<1> that *should* work.
<1> what part of it isn't working?
<4> why do epguide blacklist ips?
<4> you raped their bandwidth?
<5> hm... well the path i give it, it's not the server path is it?
<2> you quite possibly saved me from grevious maiming which would have happened if the rest of the family woke up to find the game wasn't recorded
<1> internal redirect redirects to a URL
<1> of course, it has to be a URL on the current server
<2> row: well i didn't think so.. but evidently they do :]
<1> so, not a filepath, but a urlpath
<1> generally something like '/foo/bar/thisfile.txt'
<5> ok path to file: /home/bla/my.file that file cannot be accessed from the http:// link
<6> to install a perl module, it's $perl -MCPAN -e 'install Some::Module' right? ...or correct me, please :)
<1> for an internal redirect, they'll need permission to access the new resource
<5> and if i put that file, doesn;t work (tried to find it from .com/home/bla/my.file)
<1> protocoldoug - more or less
<1> provided CPAN.pm is already configured
<5> hm... falowing at 100%
<6> merlyn, when i do that i get "Cannot locate method 'install' from Some::Module"
<1> go interactive instad
<1> perl -MCPAN -eshell
<1> the type "install Some::Module"
<6> 'k gonna try that, thank you :)
<1> No - you need to have a mapped URL
<1> it would be something they could say http://your.server/THIS/PATH/HERE.txt
<1> you redirect to /THIS/PATH/HERE.txt
<6> merlyn, working like a charm :)
<1> which maps according to your docroot, aliases, etc
<5> merlyn: how can i do without a mapped URL ? (point is so users can't access eachothers files)
<1> Kilbor - you can't use redirect then
<1> you have to deliver the file from a direct opening
<1> apache 1 or 2?
<5> so what would be the best way to do it? real the file and print it on screen?
<5> apache 2 i think (not sure)
<1> Hmm. get sure.
<1> find out
<5> how? :p
<1> the answer is different
<1> dammit - you're the web guy, right?
<1> if not, ask the web guy
<5> hm... perl noob lol
<1> doesn't matter
<1> learn or hire
<5> asking to learn :p
<1> if you're the web guy, and you can't even answer "apache 1 or 2" you have NO business being on teh web
<1> truly
<1> you need to back up about ten steps then
<5> well, check, have 27 servers running here, one i'm running on is apache 2, one it might run on is apache 1 or 1.13 or 2
<5> so take your pick :p
<7> 1 or 1.13? eh?
<1> dude - WHAT ARE YOU RUNNIG?
<5> or 2
<1> on the machine in QUESTION
<5> well, on the devel machine apache 2
<1> so that's the context of your question?
<1> you're using mod_perl2 with apache2?
<5> on the production ones, 1 or 1.13
<5> think so, not 100% sure on mod perl
<1> Uh - the code you write will be for ONE or the OTHER
<1> which ONE
<5> lets go with apache 1
<8> eval: *STDOUT
<3> joeym: *main::STDOUT
<7> could you elaborate on 1 and 1.13? those are bizzare Apache version numbers
<5> sorry, 1 or 1.3
<1> you want Apache->send_fd
<1> open the file, use ->send_fd on the filehandle
<1> but yes, you have to copy the file yourself
<5> but i don't see what the apache version has to do with this... sure there is a mason or perl function for it
<1> Kilbor - mod_perl 1 is for apache 1
<1> mod_perl 2 is for apache 2
<5> that i figured lol
<1> and the code is not compatible
<1> dammit, don't lol me when you're being an idiot. it makes you look even more stupid.
<1> you're in over your head.
<1> apparently.
<1> time to learn or hire.
<1> and take it seriously
<5> well got it runing from simply reading the file and puting it on screen
<1> especially for web apps
<5> works no proble, but at files of 3 gb, not so sure
<1> web apps can be COMPROMISED easily if you're being amateurish on the net
<1> and then the spammers have another foothold
<5> this stuff is backend, no wories there
<1> if you don't take security very very carefully, you're being unethical.
<5> just need them to get the download popup lol
<1> web programming is a specialized skill. you don't get there in a weekend.
<9> whats the best text editor or word processor? I want it to have, aspell spell checker, rectangular text sellection, autocorrect, autocomplete, regex
<1> gnu emacs!
<5> notepad or vi
<1> heh. notepad. :)
<1> clearly NOT the choice
<10> coding using a word processor?
<1> "what's the best car?" "a tricycle!"
<10> you just need a powerful text editor
<11> HEY. notepad's great.
<9> amnesiac yes
<5> wtf is wrong with note pad?
<11> NOTHING
<9> Kilbor I want it to have, aspell spell checker, rectangular text sellection, autocorrect, autocomplete, regex
<12> poeklis - you said 'word processor'. You must suffer for twenty months under a hot sun with water only delivered in tiny, mocking 10oz fast-food bottles.
<10> merlyn, do you have autocorrect/complete in emacs for Perl?
<10> ayrnieu, that sounds great, I want to see him suffer like that :P
<1> yes - completion works nicely
<12> poeklis - IAC, give us context. What OS?
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