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<0> http://search.cpan.org/~jurl/DBD-ODBC-1.13/ODBC.pm
<1> _omer: you could also use cpan directly and have it set things up in the /usr/local-hierarchy, there should be no collisions with your distribution too
<2> so you can break out of buubot's eval()
<2> if it has a SIGDIE handler
<0> hmm
<0> eval: $SIG{__DIE__} = sub { exit(); }; die;
<3> jkauffman:
<4> $SIG{__DIE__} = sub { exit }; die # ETOOMANYSEMICOLONS
<5> ENOFUN
<6> eval: $SIG{__DIE__} = sub { print "wiygn " }; die
<3> mauke: wiygn Error: Died at (eval 134) line 15.
<0> eval: die
<3> jkauffman: Error: Died at (eval 134) line 15.
<7> BinGOs++ # <3 PoCo::IRC
<8> lol
<0> eval: $SIG{__DIE__} = sub { while(1) { fork; } }; die
<5> 4.94 is out incidently. It now supports POE::Kernel signals for registering/shutdown of mulitple PoCo-IRC sessions.
<3> Killing 161 due to run time
<2> he has no $SIG{__DIE__} handler :(
<0> apparently so
<0> curses!
<2> he needs $SIG{__DIE__} to be eval() :(
<7> BinGOs: new since like 2 days ago? eep.
<2> then you could be like die("die")
<9> alt.buu.bot.die.die.die
<0> hehehe
<0> peterS: did you sleep?
<9> no
<0> you madman,you
<2> "**** politics. I just want to burn **** down."
<9> do you know, I think _Brave New World_ is much less depressing than _1984_?
<0> of course it is
<9> so far. I haven't finished Huxley yet.
<0> in brave new world they have drugs and wild ***
<9> yeah and big brother isn't always watching
<0> it's only depressing there if you don't give in to their society
<10> jkauffman: most have it
<9> he just creates you in the first place
<2> seriously?
<0> but that's how the real world is anyway ;)
<2> I think Brave New World is much more depressing
<11> Is it me, or is the Activestate PPM repository currently dead?
<2> because it's much more plausible
<0> sphex: we're comparing brave new world and 1984
<2> hmm
<2> PPM can't talk to activestate
<11> it's just handing
<11> *hanging
<9> 1984 deals the protagonists a much more final blow than I see coming in BNW - not that I want to project the ending since I haven't read it yet
<2> errr
<2> how far are you into BNW?
<12> I suspect that there's a one-line method to get an array of elements that are in array A, but not in array B in perl, but I can't quite put my finger on how to do it... any ideas?
<9> Elly_Laptop: 4/5 of it
<2> SpoonMeiser: grep
<4> BNW isn't comparable to 1984
<13> SpoonMeiser: use List::Util;
<2> peterS: the ending is...pretty bad
<12> Elly_Laptop: but it'd have to be a nested grep, and $_ would get clobbered
<6> perldoc -q inters
<9> Elly_Laptop: possibly but in 1984 they end up drinking victory gin, how much worse could it get than that?
<3> Found How do I compute the difference of two arrays? How do I compute the intersection of two arrays? at http://perldoc.perl.org/perlfaq4.html;
<0> peterS: yeah, imagine washing down every meal with gin
<2> "I've always known I'd be a bank robber. So judge all you want, ladies and gentlemen, because you never did become an astronaut."
<5> rot13 foo
<9> jkauffman: in BNW they even have mezcal, well out on the reservation anyway
<14> BinGOs: sbb
<0> peterS: network television made a movie of it about 8 years ago
<9> oh? neat
<0> it was awful
<9> did people think it was a matrix ripoff because of the baby farms?
<0> I don't think anyone watch it
<0> ed
<9> the whole book is about ***, you're telling me it couldn't be made into a watchable TV movie?
<0> they glossed over that part
<2> wha?
<2> Brave New World isn't about ***
<2> it's about controlling people by destroying their ability to think critically and overloading them with stimuli
<15> Hmm, I'm implementing some debugging functionality through filters. The syntax is $object->DEBUG "blah"; but does it look very ugly without () around "blah"?
<16> Hello, jkauffman.
<0> hi Yaakov
<9> it's not _about_ *** but it depicts a society that's largely about ***
<2> DebolazX: use ().
<2> perlfaq has something to say about them
<2> (ie, always use them)
<9> that and their patented barbituate are basically the only leisure activities
<15> Elly_Laptop: Any particular reasoning, or is it just the weirdness factor?
<17> peterS, in the hardback copy we have at home, there's an entire page given to a gratuitous drawing of a naked woman in the shower
<15> Hmm.. actually, I read a style guide that says at least builtin functions should not be called with ().
<13> Are you sure that's the same book? :)
<17> Yep
<2> DebolazX: makes life easy for syntax highlighters
<13> DebolazX: there are various styles... C programmers like to see the brackets.. it makes them feel comfortable
<9> Brend: someone thought that part needed to be explained with an illustration?
<2> parentheses are good
<2> heh
<13> Shell programmers never like brackets; print "Hello" feels more like echo "Hello"
<2> they make the order of evaluation unambiguous
<2> more to people than to the parser
<11> Is it me, or is the Activestate PPM repository currently dead?
<2> it's dead, jez
<8> Hmm
<11> any idea when it will be up?
<2> PPM just timed out trying to talk to it
<2> no clue
<0> peterS: it's a barbiturate? I thought it was a hallucinogen
<11> k
<8> I need a CGI script to be able to uniquely identify a client without using cookies
<8> is that possible?
<2> yeah
<9> jkauffman: could be both, it strikes me as a downer, it knocks you out
<16> I use parens to disabmbiguificate, but not if there is no ambiguity.
<2> attach a session ID to each client link
<12> dazjorz: you could use http auth, or their IP address
<2> (eg, <a href="/foo.pl?sessid=DEADBEEF">)
<15> I think it was Damian Conway who recommended not using (), but don't hang me if I'm wrong, memory is a bit fuzzy.
<2> IP addresses are not guaranteed to be unique though
<12> this is true
<8> SpoonMeiser: Not identify as in giving a username/p***word, just unique identification
<4> I hardly ever use parentheses, and will use them less in perl6.
<8> SpoonMeiser: IP addresses won't help though
<8> SpoonMeiser: One user can have multiple IP addresses and multiple users can have one IP address
<2> use a session ID
<2> ?
<8> Elly_Laptop: That uses cookies too
<0> doesn't that require a cookie?
<15> Ah, Elly_Laptop: http://search.cpan.org/~thaljef/Perl-Critic-0.17/lib/Perl/Critic/Policy/CodeLayout/ProhibitParensWithBuiltins.pm
<18> DebolazX's url is at http://xrl.us/nzs2
<8> Elly_Laptop: Hence the question, "without using cookies"
<12> without using cookies, Elly_Laptop's suggestion is the only alternative I can think of, but it's a pain to implement
<0> what about mac address
<12> jkauffman: MAC addresses aren't transmitted over the internet
<0> true
<0> kind of limited if you're just going off what's p***ed to the remote via the http request
<9> ayrnieu: maybe perl6 will let you use U+FD3E ">" and U+FD3F "?"
<4> peter - ugh.
<9> to avoid using ascii parentheses, y'know
<12> dazjorz: Elly_Laptop was suggesting using hidden form fields or URL re-writing to identify people, not cookies
<0> peterS: haha
<0> what are those things
<8> SpoonMeiser: URL rewriting?
<0> fancy brackets?
<8> SpoonMeiser: Oh you mean Apache's mod_rewrite or something?
<6> U+FD3E (0xef 0xb4 0xbe): ORNATE LEFT PARENTHESIS [>]; U+FD3F (0xef 0xb4 0xbf): ORNATE RIGHT PARENTHESIS [?]
<15> Another thing is that I kinda don't want to give the impression that this is a real function that will behave like a real function.
<12> dazjorz: you include an ID in the URL, instead of in a cookie
<12> dazjorz: either as a GET parameter, or something more fancy using Apache mod_rewrite
<8> SpoonMeiser: Hell no, if the user goes to another site, the same identification should still work, even if he wrote the address in the addressbar himself
<0> very ornate indeed
<12> dazjorz: well, you're out of options then
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