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<0> nope
<1> I didn't realize that [] and {} WERE operators
<0> jsut humble start trek fan
<1> now I know
<0> are you gay?
<2> Teratogen: In C you have "" to write strings and {} for initializers and they're not "really" operators, they're just part of the syntax of writing certain sort of literals
<1> that's what I thought perl's [] and {} were
<1> but then why did I think [1..10] would work
<1> so I guess I was contradicting myself subconsciously
<1> or just didn't think about it
<1> but anyways it rules that you can do [ expr ] and { expr } where expr is an arbitrary expression
<2> Teratogen: but in perl, the "" and the {} and [] and .. all have runtime meaning. Although the strings and ranges can sometimes be resolved at compile time :)
<1> right
<1> that's what I learned =)
<1> yeah maybe because 1..10 involved constants (1 and 10)
<1> didn't really think about it as an expression



<3> hi all
<4> eval: map {print $_++} 1..3 for 1..3
<5> dkr: 1 2 3 2 3 4 3 4 5
<6> the special char ? for dbi get quote i think, because i try to create a table named $word[0] and i received an error like syntax error near '#test' (channel #test is the value of $word[0]) my script is ok because if i replace the ? by hello, it create the hello table, how to remove this quote, somebody knows please? thanks
<4> see, they aren't really constants, :)
<7> hi
<3> so what is the deal with poe?
<3> its for long running server?
<7> does somebody understand SNMP
<3> whats that mean?
<3> nagios uses snmp
<3> is extent of my exp
<2> serpentor: he died in a gutter in baltimore
<3> i had to enable it on my linux boxen
<3> hobbs that is a bad way for a great author to go.
<7> ok i did knock on the worng door
<7> wrong door*
<8> serpentor: Yes, re: long running servers.
<9> quick question... how do i select a value that's closes to a a certain number? for instance, i have a bits per pixel calculator, and i have it work with a range between 0.210 and 0.250, this in turn gives me a range of 4 numbers, and i want to pick which ever number is closest to 0.240... any ideas?
<9> i'm sorta new to this aspect of perl.
<2> ispy_: try that again with a little more making sense
<4> how can youhave a fraction of abit per pixel?
<9> ok...
<10> ispy_: Take the absolute difference ***ociated with each and use the min
<2> ispy_: the short answer is probably "sort" though :)
<9> basicly i have this wide range of numbers to chose from, but i only want one number out of like 20... and that one number needs to be the closest to 0.240 as possible.
<9> :)
<9> all of the values are 0.000 and i only want one that's close to 0.240
<4> ispy_: take b0at and hobbs suggestions together, then, :)
<10> Mix thorougly, though.
<9> i **** at this sorta thing... :) i have used sort once before so i'll try.
<10> Nothing worse than a lumpy implementation
<4> get the list of absolute differences and sort to find the closest
<6> Hi, I use DBI in my script, my script is the IRC service for my IRC Network, when somebody ask my bot to register a channel, my bot check in a database if this nick is already registered, if not, the bot TRY to create a table named #thechannel, I try with the '?' but ive heard ? is principally design to work with action like
<6> INSERT, SELECT instead of CREATE, so I put directly something like CREATE TABLE $word[0], and i received an error like Syntax error ''#channel' if i put #achannel directly w/o scalar that work, how to remove the quote
<11> pbie: You shouldn't automatically create or drop tables.
<11> pbie: That's not how the relational or tabular model is meant, and it doesn't work well. Performance will be abysmal, security practically impossible, and getting it to function way too much work.
<11> pbie: Instead of a table for each channel, use a single table with a channel /column/.
<11> pbie: Preferrably, referring to a row in a channels table that lists (and normalizes) the registered channels.
<11> pbie: But that may be too much progress in a short time.
<12> if(a && b) ...
<0> jeez
<12> does && short-cut, as in C?
<0> where do Inhire a perl consultant in los angeles?
<0> hire
<13> gr00ber: yes
<0> perl
<0> la ca 90025
<2> gr00ber: yes, plus the return value is more useful :)
<14> I'm using LWP and have played with the request headers. I can change the user agent too. I can't get rid of a couple of line. GET / HTTP/1.1|Connection:TE, close|Host:127.0.0.1|TE:deflate,gzip;q=0.3|User-Agent:libwww-perl/5.803 How can I get rid of the 'Connection:TE, close' and the 'TE:defalate,gzip;q=0.3' sections?
<12> hobbs, pardon?
<15> star-trekio - jobs.perl.org
<12> oh - and happy 4'th americans
<15> not the 4th yet. :)
<10> It's the 3rd.
<12> it's the 4'th in my time zone :-)
<15> but you're not in america
<15> do that tommorrow
<13> gr00ber: but not in any timezone in america :)
<12> bah - americans are unaware of time zones



<13> what good are they?
<15> americans *are* aware of the current day though
<12> exactly
<4> gr00ber: we have 5 of them, though, a lot of countries just have one
<15> we have six or seven if you count baghdad
<12> dkr, most countries have one
<15> aka America East
<13> dkr: 5? i thought we had 6
<4> or maybe 6, not sur eif alaska and hawaii the same
<12> PST is like GMT -8, right?
<13> i thought alaska and hawaii were in different ones
<16> i have a script named index.cgi in a directory /helpdesk. When I give 0755 to the /helpdesk directory, everything works fine. But when I give 0777 to /helpdesk, the index.cgi file throws "Premature end of script headers: index.cgi".
<13> gr00ber: yes
<10> Alaska has at least two, one might be Hawaii's
<15> juneau is one hour over
<15> hawaii is two hours over
<13> gr00ber: althought right now it is PDT (-7 GMT)
<15> some parts of alaska are same time as hawaii
<12> pravus, daylight savings?
<13> gr00ber: yes
<12> k, another weird-*** american invention
<12> :)
<16> I would appreciate your help. :)
<13> gr00ber: ? many others coutries have it as well
<13> of course, i don't like it, but ...
<12> pravus, uncluding mine
<12> it's a silly thing, yeah
<6> Juerd yes but, i do this because i dont know how much aop/sop the channel will contain, this is dynamic, we add some oper each day..
<12> but it is an american invention
<15> and the idiots that want "year round" dst just Don't Get It
<16> hello, can anyone help me with a permissions issue?
<15> "sure, what's your user ID?"
<4> gr00ber: "The idea of DST was first put into practice by the German government during the First World War,"
<16> merlyn, asking me?
<12> "During World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt instituted year-round Daylight Saving"
<15> umair - yes... but google for "BOFH" for the full joke
<12> my sources are wrong then :)
<17> Umair: does your question have anything to do with perl, or is it only peripherally related to perl because you just happen to be using perl?
<16> lol .. :)
<4> gr00ber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_savings_time
<11> pbie: That is fully irrelevant.
<15> dkr's source is wikipedia. it could be wrong. :)
<12> dkr, ok
<16> PerlJam, I am not sure. :)
<12> merlyn, yes, I usually need a second source too wiki
<16> I was wondering, what are the recommend permissions to execute a perl CGI script.
<12> and here it is: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/DaylightSavingTime.html
<4> merlyn: it has lots of references at least, :)
<18> gr00ber's url is at http://xrl.us/nzk5
<11> pbie: Please learn how to use relational databases before actually using them. That you have a dynamic "create table" statement is a RED FLAG, a very bad sign.
<16> Because, it seems to act weird.
<19> Umair chmod 755 ?
<11> pbie: There are many tutorials and courses that teach you how to do this. I can't.
<16> What about 0777?
<19> no
<15> it needs to be executable
<17> Umair:Now I can inform you that your question has nothing to do with perl.
<15> and it should rarely be 0777
<19> that makes it world writable which is evil
<15> that would mean that others can change it!
<16> yes, but it doesn't execute that way.
<15> you want 0755, probably
<16> Aahhh, may be some security measure in the web server or the operating system.
<15> ahh - web
<15> I love the hidden web questions
<15> why don't people say "this is a web question"?
<16> The script helpdesk/mailbox.cgi should be able to write in the helpdesk/ directory. But mailbox.cgi is called by qmail. Sorry this isn't strictly a Perl question.
<15> it *makes* a difference that it's web
<15> and far more Perl invocations are *not* web than web
<0> so perl can whip java ***
<20> merlyn: I would prefer everyone in every place on UTC and get rid of this idea that daylight is 0900 to 1900 approximately
<0> is amazon using perl?
<0> over java?


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