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<0> Xach: I don't know it off-hand, sorry.
<1> HALLO
<2> rindolf: That answer could have been the first one. :)
<0> But I believe in JATFMing - Just answering the Fabolous Man
<1> I think '****ing' could also sub in there, if you wanted to be profane that is.
<0> EvanCarroll: sure, but I'd rather not, if I can help it.
<0> EvanCarroll: or "fine".
<0> I blogged about it.
<0> http://advogato.org/person/shlomif/diary.html?start=215
<3> oh, reminds me, need to install mod_english on my Apache server, automaticly translates colour to color in CSS files....
<0> Ikarus: heh.
<4> o_O
<0> Ikarus: in gvim it doesn't get highlighted.
<3> It annoys me alot that all standards get written in American English
<3> I keep ending up with mysteriously malfunctioning code and sites, until I remember that
<1> Ikarus: Yea, well, we are better.
<0> Ikarus: actually Adam Kennedy said something about an automatic converter from Britsh to American english and back.
<0> Ikarus: on his blog in use.perl.org
<1> did he die yet?
<0> Some people have blogs on Slashdot.
<0> EvanCarroll: I think he's still kicking.
<5> how can you print not matching like if /blah/ print $var;
<0> EvanCarroll: he's aussie.
<5> like if !/blah/ print $var
<1> I'm sure god will smite him too
<6> hell`: did you try thqtM
<1> That family has -10283408 god points or something
<0> hell`: if (/blah/) { print $var }
<0> hell`: did you read a Perl tutorial?
<5> what?
<0> EvanCarroll: I don't think he's related to JFK and friends.
<0> perlbot: tutorial > hell`
<3> rindolf: originally mod_english was a complete automatic conversion filter based on a dictionary and some generic rules and selected the language on accepted language header
<5> i've read many tutorials.. just haven't used perl in a while
<3> but it didn't work well enough
<0> hell`: I see.
<5> im trying to do NOT matching like if (/blah/) print $var
<0> hell`: if (!/blah/) { print $var}
<5> oh that will work?
<0> Or unless (/blah/)
<0> hell`: sure.
<5> nice
<0> hell`: ! is the negation operator.
<5> i guess i guessed it right just didnt check
<0> Well one of them at lesat.
<0> There's also "not" which is ultra-low precedence
<1> And #vaporware
<7> EvanCarroll: I'm so winning
<1> Yea for a woefully inadequate definition of winning.
<7> SHUT UP LAMER.
<7> How hideous.
<1> DIE OF AIDS.
<0> buu: good luck.
<1> blondie: take your glue fetish elsewhere.
<1> goats > glue.
<0> buu: I sent a resignation email to my current job today.
<8> but my bf went away for the weekend :'(
<0> buu: I'm going to try becoming a freelancer of sorts.
<1> blondie: Fascinating, buy some elmers and lock yourself in a bathroom, you have 2 days.
<8> some what?
<1> http://www.elmers.com/index.asp
<1> god haven't you ever been to preschool.
<1> NEWB.
<8> I'm not american
<0> EvanCarroll: can you please stop this trolling?
<1> http://www.elmers.com/product/index.asp -- I'm the one to far right.
<1> rindolf: How is it trolling?
<8> how cute.
<0> EvanCarroll: you're being annoying.
<0> EvanCarroll: grow up a little.
<1> rindolf: So are all things annoying also trolls?
<0> EvanCarroll: no, but often this is the case.
<1> Did you ever weigh a witch a piece of a wood, or a feather?
<0> EvanCarroll: if you can't say something in a civil manner, please shut the hell up.
<1> rindolf: I love you.
<7> Damn jews.
<0> buu: is EvanCarroll Jewish?
<1> rindolf: Please ban him, as a Jew I am offended.
<5> how come something like while(<FILE>) { if !/blah/ or /!****/ print $var; } doesn't work.. only works on the first if /!blah/
<0> EvanCarroll: buu is tolerable.
<0> EvanCarroll: you on the other hand are not.
<0> hell`: that's incorrect syntax.
<5> ah.. sorry, i meant using a if (!/blah/) { print $var } elsif (!/****/) { print $var; }
<5> the first one works, not the second
<9> hell`: and what is $_?
<5> blah
<5> and ****
<10> [^(****)] ?
<9> well, if it contains blah at all, the second elsif clearly isn't going to trigger.
<0> dvst: that's wrong.
<0> Hi dondelelcaro
<9> rindolf: sup
<0> dondelelcaro: I started writing an essay today.
<0> dondelelcaro: about what is the best introducory language.
<9> heh
<0> dondelelcaro: wanna link?
<11> whats up all
<0> dondelelcaro: also wrote a memoir.
<9> sure, why not... it's a contentious enough topic
<0> Now I'm wasting time IRC.
<0> dondelelcaro: OK, it's not finished yet.
<0> dondelelcaro: http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/education/introducory-language/introducory-language/
<0> dondelelcaro: also see http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/education/introducory-language/Summary.txt
<0> dondelelcaro: your comments are welcome.
<11> i need some help, kinda off topic, but at least relevant ... is there anyway i can have a client run a script on my server that actaully runs ON THE SERVER not on the clients machine ? the script will do a p***worldless scp of some files, so i need to to run from the server for the public/private key mathcing to work
<0> generalhan: ssh
<9> cool, I probably won't have time to read it for a while
<11> rindolf: what do you mean ?
<0> dondelelcaro: it's not long.
<0> generalhan: ssh can execute commands remotely.
<11> hmm
<0> generalhan: ssh -c I think.
<5> generalhan: use ssh-agent
<9> rindolf: oh, actually... I think I finished... I thought there was a third page
<8> rindolf: no, you just put the commands after the hostname
<8> if that's what you mean
<0> dondelelcaro: OK.
<0> dondelelcaro: what do you think?
<9> ssh foohost 'scp barhost:blehfile bazhost:blearg'
<11> well the issue is that these are windows machines so if i incorperate ssh into than each computer needs cygwin or openssh of some sort. if i was gonna do that i could make each station have the same public key to make the scp work.
<0> dondelelcaro: lorem ipsum lorem candium
<0> I love these web page mockups which have these things. I can never understand what each of them is.
<8> it's semi-random latin :P
<11> this is the most simple of scripts, i just need to scp the resuts to my linux server automatically then send a command. i can do it if i run the script on the windows server, but not if its run from the client machine because the scp doesnt work without the id_dsa.pub
<9> rindolf: seems ok; most of the criticisms are not all that contriversial; I'm personally a fan of not worrying so much about the programing language and teaching the fundamentals of algorithmic design.
<0> dondelelcaro: OK.
<9> most introductory programming courses are like teaching a system of mathematics notation without actually learning any mathematics
<0> dondelelcaro: yeah.
<0> dondelelcaro: my outline is in http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/education/introducory-language/Summary.txt
<9> I mean, you've got to learn some notation, but you need to know how to do additional and subtraction pretty early on too.
<0> dondelelcaro: yes.
<9> anyway, off to start work... localtime all.
<0> dondelelcaro: and have some intuitive knowledge of algebra.
<12> 18% of Americans believe that Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.
<1> rindolf: you have a spelling mistake "programmig language."
<1> just fyi.
<13> Does anyone know where I can find a good "top downloads" script? I just need something that track's downloads and such.
<14> how do you make calls in ` ` not output to the console?
<15> I'm using REs saved in varsf via qr// for some parsing, the REs use capturing parens () to pick out parts of the data. I'd like to be able also to use them at a higher level, like /($re1)($re2*)/ but I don't think there's a way to get at what would be $2 there if $re1 didn't contain any capturing parens without knowing how many capturing parens $re1 has. Does anybody know a good solution for this?
<5> notj0hn: redirect to /dev/null ?
<7> Roderick: The match returns a list of captures.
<15> buu: But how can I know which one to use, without knowing how many captures $re1 did?
<7> You can't.
<16> I know this is off topic but I am trying to search ebay for items without a reserve price, anyone help?
<15> That is what I'm looking to solve. I can think of several hacks.
<7> No.
<15> (Hack #1 is write a sub which takes an RE and tries to count the number of captures.)
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