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<0> there's not much unique in the camel these days <1> eval: $_="cron-daily.php";/^cron-\*$/i ? "It found it." : "Did not find it" <2> UFOczek: Did not find it <3> Noriega: all you ever needs to know about perl: http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/perlr.html <1> (i'm trying to find any cron*.php files) ;) <4> thanks <5> UFOczek: perldoc perlretut. <2> UFOczek: Type 'perldoc perlretut' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html <6> ) <0> xahlee - stop trolling. :) <7> nachos: http://www252.pair.com/comdog/style.html <4> "Perl moron's creed" ^_^ <7> xahlee: I concur, please do not troll. <3> integral: yeah, i concur too. <0> xahlee hates perl, hates unix people. <0> you can take advice from him, but it'll be confusing.
<0> especially if you want to be a person who likes perl. <7> and verbose, and self inconsistent. <3> well... at least i'm glad i'm a master of perl and php <7> you're not. <0> "master" is an odd way to put that <0> your perl code mostly ****s <3> is it true, that the number of php users has surp***ed perl? <7> I expect that's been true for ages now. <0> if it was, it wouldn't be relevant. <6> lol <8> there's also perl best practices, that's a good book <0> that's like saying do more people own bicycles than cars <0> if that was true, it still woudlnt' affect car ownership <3> actually, folks, i would advice php over perl, if you have to choose one. <3> between the two, that is. <0> for simple tasks, sure <0> and if they're web related sure <7> I asked you to stop trolling. <9> xahlee: "advise" <0> yeah xahlee, be a pal, and move along <10> Yaakov: haha, you beat me to that one. <0> you're welcome to listen in, and contribute general facts <3> integral: did you ask Larry Wall to stop trolling? <10> I'm a little slow this morning. <11> #php wants you. <0> but if you come here to steer people to your point of view (which seems twisted to me), you can be quiet now. <7> xahlee: I don't see how my personal interactions with Mr Wall are relevant. <11> and by 'personal interactions' you mean '***' right? <9> xahlee is welome to disagree substantively with things that other people's positions--but injecting comments designed to cause rancor is strictly a no-no. <9> Heh <0> exactly <9> That needs editing. <0> well - approximately <9> Could someone rewrite that while I take a nap. <7> yeah, debates are nice, but turning a nice morning of Q&A and tutorials into debates is stupid. <11> approximately strictly? <12> Remember, remember the third of July, the fools, morons and trolls. I see no reason why the third of july...nevermind, I got nothin'. <13> Can I both chomp and lc a string in one combined statement? <0> chomp is a verb, so no <11> samu2: yes. <14> lc? <12> yes samu2. <12> Yes, lc. <0> uh - why is everyone saying yes? <7> samu2: sort of :) chomp($str = lc $str) <3> samu2: well, you can do it in one line. <0> yeah, well, like that. :) <11> that counts as 'one combined statement' <0> you can do EVERYTHING in one line. :) <7> merlyn: because you can, sort of :) <9> That is uglier than xahlee's comments! <13> Yeah merlyn got me right <14> ah <3> it's called functional programing. <14> lowercase :-) <11> eval: print lc(chomp("abcdef\n")) <7> I think it's ugly as hell those, and it's not a composition of just chomp and lc <2> Elly_Laptop: Error: Can't modify constant item in chomp at (eval 134) line 15, near ""abcdef\n")" <11> well I'll be <0> chomp doesn't *return* anything useful though <11> chomp IS silly
<3> Elly_Laptop: is there a thing in perl that's not silly? <11> I thought chomp returned the result too <0> in perl6, .chomp returns the chomped value <11> ah <0> xahlee - that's a troll statement <12> Huh. I thought chomp returned the chomped value. <13> would look nicer if you could write chomp lc $string; <12> didnt know that. <4> any computational linguists here? <9> godzirra_: Test it! <11> xahlee: if the choice is between silliness and seriousness (Java, COBOL) I'll take silliness. <7> samu2: yeah, but you can't :) <15> chomp returns the number of things chomp'd <3> merlyn: do you want me to argue and discuss about the troll issue now? <7> Elly_Laptop: Ada's actually quite nice <11> eval: chomp("abcdef\n") <2> Elly_Laptop: Error: Can't modify constant item in chomp at (eval 134) line 16, near ""abcdef\n") " <12> Yaakov: I did. I've never needed to try before so I havent though until someone asked the question. <11> no it doesn't o_O <0> xahlee - not particularly. just know that you're trolling <0> from someone who might be in a position to know. <9> One of the best things about perl is that people like Larry like it and people like xahlee don't. <16> Hi all. <14> hi rindolf <11> so, in other news: how ****ing awesome is Perl and everything connected to it? <8> Elly_Laptop: It returns the total number of characters removed from all its arguments. DO READ perldoc -f insert_function_here <15> rindolf: hello <16> nachos: ahoy. I'm trying to refactor some PHP code before extending it. <16> nachos: for $JOB. <11> zamolxes: too lazy <0> $client <0> $$client if it's a good one <16> pravus: hi. Sup? <14> ah <16> merlyn: back in PDX? <0> yes - slept in my own bed for the first tme in 14 days! <15> rindolf: just woke up... about to do some yard work on this most glorious of days <0> two more of those, then I'm gone for 11 days again <16> pravus: nice. <11> merlyn: doesn't that ****? =\ <0> I like everything about travel... except the travel. <16> pravus: do you work from home? Or do you lack a job? <15> rindolf: i work at a local uni. i just took this week off :) <16> pravus: I see. Nice. <11> I like traveling <16> pravus: what do you do there? <17> perlbot life with cpan > infi <11> but being away from home ****s :( <0> for example, last week I got to see a bunch of really cool people in person. <11> you don't appreciate 15mbit cable internet that never, ever goes down <11> until you have to do without it <0> the week before, I got to hang out with some seriously cool people in buffalo <16> merlyn: it's been a while since I've been abroad. <15> rindolf: mainly break/fix type of stuff using perl, php, pl/sql, shell, and some others <16> pravus: I see. <11> are these like actually seriously cool people, or cool-if-you're-a-perl-hax0r cool people? <0> lots of both. :) <16> pravus: sys admin, web programming, something else? <15> rindolf: all of that plus other stuff as well <11> I aspire to write a BIOS rootkit in Perl <11> it won't be easy...but I am confident <16> pravus: OK. <15> rindolf: i sit in the middle of 3 or 4 divisions in our IT department <16> pravus: I think a friend of mine who works for openu.ac.il does something like that, too. <0> the geekcruises also expose me to some very interesting folks <0> like Leo Laporte <16> He also works with PL/SQL, and has been introducing Perl and Perl techniques there. <15> rindolf: here lately i've been re-writing parts of our transcript process and modifying parts of our self-service system for students <11> who's that guy? <0> he's not so much a geek as just a nice smart person to talk to <0> and Ben Long and Derrick Story and Bill Durrance - amazing photographers <15> rindolf: well, i introduced my employer to perl :) <16> pravus: yes. Perl got a lot of momentum from bottom-up. <11> I'm just a lowly soon-to-be college student =\
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