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<0> there's not much unique in the camel these days
<1> eval: $_="cron-daily.php";/^cron-\*$/i ? "It found it." : "Did not find it"
<2> UFOczek: Did not find it
<3> Noriega: all you ever needs to know about perl: http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/perlr.html
<1> (i'm trying to find any cron*.php files) ;)
<4> thanks
<5> UFOczek: perldoc perlretut.
<2> UFOczek: Type 'perldoc perlretut' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html
<6> )
<0> xahlee - stop trolling. :)
<7> nachos: http://www252.pair.com/comdog/style.html
<4> "Perl moron's creed" ^_^
<7> xahlee: I concur, please do not troll.
<3> integral: yeah, i concur too.
<0> xahlee hates perl, hates unix people.
<0> you can take advice from him, but it'll be confusing.



<0> especially if you want to be a person who likes perl.
<7> and verbose, and self inconsistent.
<3> well... at least i'm glad i'm a master of perl and php
<7> you're not.
<0> "master" is an odd way to put that
<0> your perl code mostly ****s
<3> is it true, that the number of php users has surp***ed perl?
<7> I expect that's been true for ages now.
<0> if it was, it wouldn't be relevant.
<6> lol
<8> there's also perl best practices, that's a good book
<0> that's like saying do more people own bicycles than cars
<0> if that was true, it still woudlnt' affect car ownership
<3> actually, folks, i would advice php over perl, if you have to choose one.
<3> between the two, that is.
<0> for simple tasks, sure
<0> and if they're web related sure
<7> I asked you to stop trolling.
<9> xahlee: "advise"
<0> yeah xahlee, be a pal, and move along
<10> Yaakov: haha, you beat me to that one.
<0> you're welcome to listen in, and contribute general facts
<3> integral: did you ask Larry Wall to stop trolling?
<10> I'm a little slow this morning.
<11> #php wants you.
<0> but if you come here to steer people to your point of view (which seems twisted to me), you can be quiet now.
<7> xahlee: I don't see how my personal interactions with Mr Wall are relevant.
<11> and by 'personal interactions' you mean '***' right?
<9> xahlee is welome to disagree substantively with things that other people's positions--but injecting comments designed to cause rancor is strictly a no-no.
<9> Heh
<0> exactly
<9> That needs editing.
<0> well - approximately
<9> Could someone rewrite that while I take a nap.
<7> yeah, debates are nice, but turning a nice morning of Q&A and tutorials into debates is stupid.
<11> approximately strictly?
<12> Remember, remember the third of July, the fools, morons and trolls. I see no reason why the third of july...nevermind, I got nothin'.
<13> Can I both chomp and lc a string in one combined statement?
<0> chomp is a verb, so no
<11> samu2: yes.
<14> lc?
<12> yes samu2.
<12> Yes, lc.
<0> uh - why is everyone saying yes?
<7> samu2: sort of :) chomp($str = lc $str)
<3> samu2: well, you can do it in one line.
<0> yeah, well, like that. :)
<11> that counts as 'one combined statement'
<0> you can do EVERYTHING in one line. :)
<7> merlyn: because you can, sort of :)
<9> That is uglier than xahlee's comments!
<13> Yeah merlyn got me right
<14> ah
<3> it's called functional programing.
<14> lowercase :-)
<11> eval: print lc(chomp("abcdef\n"))
<7> I think it's ugly as hell those, and it's not a composition of just chomp and lc
<2> Elly_Laptop: Error: Can't modify constant item in chomp at (eval 134) line 15, near ""abcdef\n")"
<11> well I'll be
<0> chomp doesn't *return* anything useful though
<11> chomp IS silly



<3> Elly_Laptop: is there a thing in perl that's not silly?
<11> I thought chomp returned the result too
<0> in perl6, .chomp returns the chomped value
<11> ah
<0> xahlee - that's a troll statement
<12> Huh. I thought chomp returned the chomped value.
<13> would look nicer if you could write chomp lc $string;
<12> didnt know that.
<4> any computational linguists here?
<9> godzirra_: Test it!
<11> xahlee: if the choice is between silliness and seriousness (Java, COBOL) I'll take silliness.
<7> samu2: yeah, but you can't :)
<15> chomp returns the number of things chomp'd
<3> merlyn: do you want me to argue and discuss about the troll issue now?
<7> Elly_Laptop: Ada's actually quite nice
<11> eval: chomp("abcdef\n")
<2> Elly_Laptop: Error: Can't modify constant item in chomp at (eval 134) line 16, near ""abcdef\n") "
<12> Yaakov: I did. I've never needed to try before so I havent though until someone asked the question.
<11> no it doesn't o_O
<0> xahlee - not particularly. just know that you're trolling
<0> from someone who might be in a position to know.
<9> One of the best things about perl is that people like Larry like it and people like xahlee don't.
<16> Hi all.
<14> hi rindolf
<11> so, in other news: how ****ing awesome is Perl and everything connected to it?
<8> Elly_Laptop: It returns the total number of characters removed from all its arguments. DO READ perldoc -f insert_function_here
<15> rindolf: hello
<16> nachos: ahoy. I'm trying to refactor some PHP code before extending it.
<16> nachos: for $JOB.
<11> zamolxes: too lazy
<0> $client
<0> $$client if it's a good one
<16> pravus: hi. Sup?
<14> ah
<16> merlyn: back in PDX?
<0> yes - slept in my own bed for the first tme in 14 days!
<15> rindolf: just woke up... about to do some yard work on this most glorious of days
<0> two more of those, then I'm gone for 11 days again
<16> pravus: nice.
<11> merlyn: doesn't that ****? =\
<0> I like everything about travel... except the travel.
<16> pravus: do you work from home? Or do you lack a job?
<15> rindolf: i work at a local uni. i just took this week off :)
<16> pravus: I see. Nice.
<11> I like traveling
<16> pravus: what do you do there?
<17> perlbot life with cpan > infi
<11> but being away from home ****s :(
<0> for example, last week I got to see a bunch of really cool people in person.
<11> you don't appreciate 15mbit cable internet that never, ever goes down
<11> until you have to do without it
<0> the week before, I got to hang out with some seriously cool people in buffalo
<16> merlyn: it's been a while since I've been abroad.
<15> rindolf: mainly break/fix type of stuff using perl, php, pl/sql, shell, and some others
<16> pravus: I see.
<11> are these like actually seriously cool people, or cool-if-you're-a-perl-hax0r cool people?
<0> lots of both. :)
<16> pravus: sys admin, web programming, something else?
<15> rindolf: all of that plus other stuff as well
<11> I aspire to write a BIOS rootkit in Perl
<11> it won't be easy...but I am confident
<16> pravus: OK.
<15> rindolf: i sit in the middle of 3 or 4 divisions in our IT department
<16> pravus: I think a friend of mine who works for openu.ac.il does something like that, too.
<0> the geekcruises also expose me to some very interesting folks
<0> like Leo Laporte
<16> He also works with PL/SQL, and has been introducing Perl and Perl techniques there.
<15> rindolf: here lately i've been re-writing parts of our transcript process and modifying parts of our self-service system for students
<11> who's that guy?
<0> he's not so much a geek as just a nice smart person to talk to
<0> and Ben Long and Derrick Story and Bill Durrance - amazing photographers
<15> rindolf: well, i introduced my employer to perl :)
<16> pravus: yes. Perl got a lot of momentum from bottom-up.
<11> I'm just a lowly soon-to-be college student =\


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