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<0> buu: have you ever used a fractal viewer like xaos, fractint (etc) it's a bit like that
<0> except the fractal is constructed from a dictionary
<0> either my web is dodgy or activestate's is
<1> and fractint still doesn't have a smooth-zoom feature, so xaos is more appropriate :)
<2> how do i just run some perl on the command line, like to see the output of print, i've seen people quoting perl -? '<snippet>' before
<3> ed_: perl -e 'print ...';
<2> thanks, the --help didnt make sense for -e
<0> hmm, actually I think the big thing that caught me out with dasher is having something move when you're not holding down a mouse button
<1> ed_: perldoc perlrun for more info :)
<2> thanks
<4> is there a way to get perl scripts to execute when double-clicked under osx??
<5> ilpavox: Yes.
<0> umm, Komodo requires me to install a .pkg, that's not nice
<5> integral: You can always remove it.
<6> is there a version of perl for a flash drive?
<4> yaakov: and that would be?
<0> how? there's no uninstaller for .pkg's...
<6> i couldn't find one on google
<5> ilpavox: ctrl+click, get info...
<1> pianoboy3333: activestate doesn't particularly care where it's located
<1> pianoboy3333: use the "zip" download, unzip it to a flash drive, and you're done :)
<7> YAY! the beginings of gene creation are ready!
<8> hi hobbs
<7> now i need to work on the iterative generator and the people
<6> hobbs: where can i get it?
<1> pianoboy3333: activestate.com
<1> hola Daveman
<5> integral: Dragging the icon to the trash should do it.
<4> yaakov: and ?
<4> yaakov: i change it to a term app or something?
<0> Yaakov: huh? I mean the licence
<5> ilpavox: integral Ah. Yes.
<5> integerr
<5> err
<5> Much confusion in the room here.
<0> and I did say .pkg. If its only payload was a .app, use a .dmg dammit.
<0> oh it's not actually a .pkg, it just has the same icon, it's an app
<9> integral: What the heck are you talking about?
<5> ...
<5> COMPLAINER
<0> apple/activestate crap
<5> ilpavox: hang on, sorry
<9> integral: Why?
<0> yaakov made me do it!
<9> integral: You bastard.
<9> 99.7% !
<0> ugh, it doesn't use proper mac look and feel for its toolbars.
<0> 99.7%?
<9> integral: Completed!
<10> hobbs: ok, on activestate.com, activeperl? for windows there's an as package and an msi
<7> integral: i didn't know you were a OSX guy, cool
<11> does POSIX regex have a look-ahead syntax?
<12> probably not
<4> yaakov: hanging
<1> cucumber3333: "as package" is a zip file :)
<13> does it really matter if i put the single quotes in the key name here: $self->{'title'}
<0> ugh, I think its UI is actually worse than VS6, yaakov :-/
<9> Montreal: No.
<10> hobbs: lastime i looked at it, it was a batch file for an installer, would there be a diff btwn the installer and zip?
<9> cucumber3333: Yes.
<13> what is the prefered way of doing things with that? single quotes or no quotes?
<10> buu: just use the zip?
<1> japhy: man 7 regex doesn't mention any, anyway
<9> cucumber3333: Maybe!
<0> Yaakov, ugg, it uses ok/cancel on a dialogue instead of yes/no
<10> hobbs: if i used the MSI file, could i install to the flash drive too?
<1> Montreal: no quotes is pretty common, but there are plenty of people who will use them. It's up to you
<14> http://pastebin.com/535944 why doesn't this read my file1?
<15> The paste 535944 has been moved to: http://erxz.com/pb/534
<1> cucumber3333: dunno about that
<10> hobbs: kk
<9> donofrio_: Because it looks like perl4.
<0> Yaakov: hrm, it's a wee bit slow and laggy feeling
<14> any idea's?
<9> God that's ugly.
<9> donofrio_: ERROR. CHECKING.
<0> Yaakov: hrm, the thing just comes across as unpolished, like when doing file->open, the file menu tab is staying highlighted while the dialogue is visible
<5> integral: IT IS CROSSPLATFORM
<1> donofrio_: and what the hell is wrong with $word = shift @ARGV; foreach $file (@ARGV) {} ?
<5> integral: Also... what about the feature set you picky bastard?!
<1> donofrio_: or even while (<>) magic ARGV loop with some code that runs if(eof) ?
<0> Yaakov: VIM is cross platform yet it manages to not be unpolished, just inconsistent
<9> hobbs: It involves sanity.
<5> ilpavox: Sorry. I am not sure how to do that. It has to be a .app thing, so I suppose you have to write a launcher.
<5> ilpavox: Why do you want to do it?
<0> Yaakov: hmm, I don't know, nothing is jumping out as amazing
<5> Did you run the code intelligence deal?
<9> perl -le'$w=shift;while(<>){$z++ while /$w/g; if(eof(ARGV){print "$z in $ARGV"; $z=0}'
<9> More or less.
<5> Did you check the Rx Toolkit?
<0> Yaakov: the rx toolkit seems a bit boring, you just give it a regexp and some text and it shows what matches?
<5> You have to run the code intelligence thing to get the syntax checking and things.
<0> but I'm not the best person to ask on regexps, I haven't debugged a big one in ages
<5> integral: YOU ARE A CURMUDGEON BEYOND YOUR YEARS
<0> hmm, it's using the system perl, *sigh*
<0> why can't it figure out my PATH from my .bash_profile and notice that I use #!/usr/bin/env perl and get the right perl?
<5> integral: You can tell it that.
<0> it's set to "Find on Path"
<0> but all my scripts already have the correct perl in the shebang. Can't it just use that?
<16> Are you sure your .bash_profile is loaded?
<5> The other must be first in the path.
<0> my normal shell loads it
<16> As in, echo $PATH outputs your path?
<0> yes, in a terminal.
<5> It isn't using the shell, now is it?
<0> As a normal user I shouldn't be expected to know how to setup the path for the desktop environment thingie
<0> although I do. But it's icky.
<5> integral: But you are ABnormal.
<5> And it knows that.
<5> Besides, while that is constructive criticism, I don't think it is daming!
<5> n
<16> integral, perhaps you want to use .bash_rc aswell? (or symlink .bash_profile to .bash_rc?)
<0> Ani-_: bah, all I know is that whatever I have in my .bashrc or .bash_profile works normally.
<5> integral: You are a vim user, it is your JOB to run down GUI editors.
<0> I also know that the nextstep desktop stuff doesn't run inside a bash. And has it's own Environment.plist
<0> no haskell syntax colouring :-(
<0> but it does handle the unicode right
<0> hungarian characters to be precise
<16> integral, you probably know this but I'll mention it anway: .bash_profile is executed for login shells. .bash_rc is executed for interactive shells. That are two different things.
<0> huh? I can set breakpoints on lines in a text file?!
<0> Ani-_: yes I know
<0> Ani-_: except I suspect that some of my .profiles source my .bashrc
<1> Eclipse apparently handles Haskell :)
<13> how is it possible to have more than one object in a cl***?
<0> *blink*
<0> Montreal: bless more than one data structure
<13> You can only have one new sub
<0> yes but you can call it multiple times
<1> Montreal: um. that's the usual state of affairs. You have to work really hard _not_ to
<17> when search engine use perl DB and no sql database to put its data, is it posible for such a perl script to search large websites?
<0> my $o = Cl***->new; my $o2 = Cl***->new; # OMG, two objects!
<16> integral, it might. But what about your interacitve shells? They won't execute .bash_profile... (So if you put your stuff in there then it might not be used)
<0> Ani-_: sure, that's why I test my setup and juggle stuff until it looks like it's all working :)
<1> Ani-_: that's considered a good thing :)
<16> Ofcourse it's good. :)
<13> so just create anothor subroutine (not named 'new') and create a data structure and bless it as well?
<0> ^GX])...
<0> UkKn_kKnso...
<0> Montreal: huh? new should be creating a new object *every* time it is called.
<5> Ooo... desktop manager has a feature I didn't know about!
<0> To get two objects you just call it twice.
<1> Montreal: ... no?
<1> Montreal: unless your question actually doesn't mean anything like what it said
<0> eval: { package A; sub new { my $c = shift; bless { id => $_[0] }, $c }; sub foo { print $_[0]->{id}, ". " } } my $o1 = A->new(1); $o1->foo; my $o2 = A->new(2); $o2->foo; $o1->foo;
<18> integral: 1. 2. 1. Return: 1
<0> Montreal: that's an example of one cl*** ("A") but with two objects containing different data.
<19> is there a way to load a complete file into a var in one command (except $string = `cat file`)
<16> Montreal, you need to make sure that whatever datastructure you create in the new-sub is lexically scoped (as in, it has my).
<0> perlbot slurp
<20> http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/11/21/slurp.html
<13> is it possible to give foo unique values not held in new? (basically hash values)
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