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<0> sili_: yes.
<0> Chris62vw: I'm not going to delete all anonymous comments.
<1> rindolf, :-)
<2> "Annoying" is subjective by definition. Throwing it around like it's fact doesn't make it any less so.
<0> Chris62vw: just the ones that I find that reduce the SNR of my blog.
<1> rindolf, it isn't like there was a flood of comments there in the first place, but I understand
<0> Chris62vw: I already had my share of annoying anonymous comments on linmagazine.co.il and whatsup.org.il.
<0> Both of them are in Hebrew.
<1> you visit too many websites :-)
<1> rindolf, I was hoping for more comments actually, about patronage. I am curious how others feel about it
<0> Chris62vw: well, now I mostly just read the RSS feeds.
<0> Chris62vw: just to keep myself up-to-date.
<0> Chris62vw: yes.
<0> I need to get myself syndicated in more places.
<0> There's also this meta-blog initiative now.
<0> Which is kind of like planets.
<2> They're hard, cold, and uninhabitable?
<1> I don't read blogs. none interest me
<0> b0at: I'm talking about Planet Perl, Planet KDE, Planet GNOME, etc.
<0> Chris62vw: I do.
<1> I did read some sort of "hooker blog" one day, reading a few months of material in an afternoon
<2> I was talking about blogs.
<0> Chris62vw: mostly of people I had some kind of connection with.
<1> rindolf, oh, cool
<0> Chris62vw: don't you read news sites?
<0> But RSS/Atom are God send.
<0> Hmmm... chromatic is non-responsive again. Guess he's too busy.
<1> rindolf, I read cnn.com :-)
<0> Chris62vw: I see.
<1> and packing.org
<2> pft, arstechnica filters all the important stuff down to me.
<0> b0at: what's up?
<1> b0at, so what, it dislplays a blank page?
<0> Chris62vw: heh heh
<1> :-)
<2> Chris62vw: No, it just updates infrequently.
<1> hah, I like it already: The next generation of optical disc formats, Blu-ray and HD DVD, have an extremely strong, multi-layered encryption scheme designed to prevent copying. Here's how it was byp***ed.
<0> Chris62vw: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/ is a nice blog about open source/open content/etc. news.
<0> Chris62vw: the guy who writes there is a professional blogger.
<0> He's pretty nice. He was supportive of my homepage.
<1> rindolf, actually, I lied; I read http://www.marginalrevolution.com/ which is technically a "blog"
<0> Chris62vw: I see.
<0> Chris62vw: did I tell you about my idea for a Web 2.0 site?
<1> rindolf, no. I don't get the 2.0 part either
<0> Chris62vw: did you read PG's "Web 2.0" essay?
<1> no
<0> Chris62vw: http://www.paulgraham.com/web20.html
<0> Chris62vw: it's very interesting.
<1> rindolf, aha, micropayments
<0> Chris62vw: micropayments were a fad.
<3> Hey
<0> Hi dazjorz
<3> I need a make program for my laptop, or I can't install any modules...
<3> Hi rindolf
<3> I don't have the time to *cough* ask one to stream into my wireless network for some reason...
<0> dazjorz: are you using Windows?
<3> so is there a free one out there?
<3> rindolf: er... Yeah.
<0> dazjorz: OK.
<0> dazjorz: nmake is available on the MS FTP server.
<1> rindolf, yeah, I still hear about them sometimes
<3> rindolf: One comes with Linux, but I can't get WPA to work with my linux.
<0> dazjorz: but perhaps you need to use Strawberry Perl.
<3> rindolf: Oh? I'll take a look
<3> rindolf: What ?
<2> dazjorz: PXPerl is supposed to come with all the tools you need.
<2> And there's always cygwin
<0> dazjorz: http://win32.perl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Win32_Distributions
<4> rindolf's url is at http://xrl.us/p2ne
<2> And there's another one like PXPerl, but I don't know if either are currently maintained
<3> rindolf: Yeah, I found nmake in M$'s "Knowledge" database
<3> ok it seems to be working...
<0> dazjorz: you shouldn't say "M$" instead of "MS".
<3> rindolf: Why not?
<0> dazjorz: because it's not respectable for either MS or the dollar sign.
<5> Because it's immature.
<0> dazjorz: did you know that the dollar sign stands for US?
<3> rindolf: No, its not respectable for MS indeed, but the dollar sign stands for money, not for the US. ;)
<0> dazjorz: think of the shape of the dollar sign.
<2> rindolf: If you mean a U superimposed over an S, afaik the symbol predates the country.
<3> rindolf: $.. Yeah ?
<6> rindolf: ah well, the name dollar itself comes from thaaler, which comes from daalder, which last I checked wasn't from the USA :P
<5> Listen. If you don't like something about MS, insult them with regard to what you don't like. Don't try to get some childish chub from typing "M$".
<3> rindolf: I see IS at most
<6> so let's not bother
<2> Unless I'm thinking about something else. It's still likely most inspired by the columns on Gibralter put on Spanish coins
<3> ew73: Thats exactly what i'm doing.
<3> ew73: What I dont like is that they ask so much money for something like windows.
<0> dazjorz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$#From_.27US.27
<3> ew73: Which explains the $ in M$.
<5> Then say you don't like them paying so much money for windows.
<2> dazjorz: http://mmcc.cx/m$ Please take it to heart.
<0> dazjorz: a dollar sign commonly has two vertical lines.
<5> Don't type '$' and high-five your buddies and run off giggling.
<3> ew73: Asking. so much money.
<5> b0at: mmcc.cx # Grew up with that guy.
<3> Ok
<3> I don't like MS to make their products so expensive.
<0> dazjorz: it's a matter of supply and demand.
<3> I guess
<5> dazjorz: See, now you sound like a somewhat mature person instead of a pimply-faced teenager.
<3> but bill gates has more money then he will ever be able to spend in his whole life
<0> dazjorz: if they made them less expensive, they'll sell more, but probably not as much as they sold them in.
<3> ew73: Yay, it works great. *feels no difference*
<2> And he gives away more than many countries
<0> as much as they lowered the cost.
<0> dazjorz: I'm trying to avoid using Windows as much as I can.
<3> b0at: He gives away a lot, I heard, true, but then why does his company still ask so much?
<0> dazjorz: I'm using Linux.
<2> dazjorz: That logic doesn't follow.
<3> rindolf: Yeah, linux is on this laptop too
<3> rindolf: But it doesn't work fine with my WPA-encrypted network.
<3> b0at: Why not?
<3> b0at: Gates has enough money to give all his employees enough money for the rest of their lives... He won't, because he's not stupid, but still
<2> dazjorz: Because there are so many things that are more important in determining the price of a product that you have to either be actively ignoring them or you don't care.
<3> wait, i don't think i understood that completely.
<7> Slightly wierd question, I expect. Is there any way to do $this->name.en as a field access for "name.en" without doing my $scratch='name.en';$this->$scratch; ?
<0> rlpowell: . is illegal in an identifer.
<3> rlpowell: To get the variable 'foobar' in $this, you'll need $this->{foobar}
<3> well anyhow
<3> i'm trying to get a window with tabs
<8> Is there an emacs mode for xs ?
<6> rutski89: if you code it, ofcourse
<0> dazjorz: where?
<3> I've tried NoteBook and DynaTabFrame....
<3> Just can't get it
<8> Ikarus: point taken
<0> dazjorz: using which toolkit?
<3> rindolf: preferably Tk
<0> dazjorz: I see.
<3> rindolf: have any examples?
<3> hi dabreegster :)
<9> Hey dazjorz
<0> dazjorz: sorry no. Never did it.
<9> And rindolf
<0> dabreegster: hi.
<0> dabreegster: how was your shower?
<0> I really should go to sleep.
<9> rindolf: Er. Rejuvenating?
<0> Talk to all of you later?
<0> dabreegster: OK. :-)
<3> bye rindolf :)
<0> dazjorz: bye
<3> Every module should have an example in their POD
<3> an example of a Perl script that works
<0> dazjorz: that's what the synposes are for.
<3> rindolf: mostly, the synopsis isn't a runnable perl program
<3> they just show what functions can be executed etc
<3> its not a real program
<3> DBD::MySQL has an example section
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