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<0> I wonder if Perl/Gtk or Perl/Qt work well on Windows.
<0> wxPerl should work.
<0> perlbot: gui
<1> wxPerl, Perl/Tk, Perl/Gtk, Perl/Qt
<2> so err
<2> how do i set a NoteBooks' width and height ?
<3> and yes, I'm up insanely early
<3> still partially on rome time, I guess.
<0> merlyn: hi.
<3> more like mid-atlantic time now. :)
<4> lat time i looked at Tk there wasn't any NoteBook
<4> last
<0> merlyn: how was your flight?
<3> maybe a couple more days, and I'll be in sync
<0> merlyn: are you returning to Porland?
<3> Oh - I was in portland already, now I'm here.
<3> home about 30 hours
<0> merlyn: I see.
<0> merlyn: heh.
<4> Pourland?
<3> such is my life.
<0> anno_: Portland.
<0> merlyn: the Perpetual Traveller.
<3> that's now 20 days since the beginning of the year that I've spent in my own house.
<4> s/merlyn/FlyingDutchman/
<3> when I get back from this trip, 2 nights at home, then another 8 days out
<3> then 2 nights at home, and 15 days out
<3> why the hell do I have a house in portland? :)
<3> actually - once I get a slingbox and some sort of remote backup ability, I won't even need to go home. :)
<3> that's almost all I'm using my home for these days... "clear the tivo" and "backup the laptop"
<0> merlyn: I'm backing up my data now.
<2> gah
<2> i'll try to figure it out myself >_<
<2> which i already tried btw
<3> the notebook width and height is set from the things it contains, I think
<3> it's been a while since I've taught the Perl-Tk cl***
<3> is the mainwindow draggable?
<3> resizeable, I mean
<2> merlyn: Yeah, but when its packed, it only contains a Label whose textvariable is a ref to an empty string
<2> it gets filled later
<2> merlyn, no, its fullscreen
<3> Yeah, sorry then... not enough brain cells coherent enough to help you at the moment.
<2> ok
<0> merlyn: you could be like Erdos.
<0> We should start the Merlyn number.
<3> I remember struggling with "who decides the size" :)
<0> 0 Merlyn.
<0> 1 Merlyn.
<3> or "white camel number"
<3> 0 for everyone who has gotten a white camel
<3> or let white camel be 0. :)
<5> what do you use? SOAP ? or SOAP::Lite ?
<0> merlyn: did you read any advanced math books?
<3> that would make me "1 white camel"
<3> zamolxes - neither, when I can avoid it
<3> if the answer is SOAP, you probably asked the wrong question. :)
<5> merlyn: cool. How do you avoid it when you just want to use a webservice offered by someone?
<0> zamolxes: you can't really.
<0> zamolxes: albeit some of my opinions about SOAP are non-printable.
<5> :)
<3> right - if they're already drinking the koolaide, it's unavoidable
<0> Well, actually if SOAP::Lite was more complete, it may have been better.
<3> what I enjoy is seeing SOAP services that return XML as data
<3> so it's really XML being encoded in... XML
<3> something about that just makes my head spin
<6> would anybody know of some sort of online tutorial/intro to perl?
<3> recon0 - learn.perl.org
<0> It was easier to get WWW::Search::MSN to be written by parsing the MS returned HTML, than it was for using their SOAP service.
<0> perlbot: tutorial > recon0
<0> merlyn: when someone asks for an online tutorial, you really shouldn't recommend learn.perl.org.
<0> merlyn: it only has one online book.
<6> thanks.
<0> merlyn: and on links to tutorials.
<0> merlyn: and it has been unmaintained for ages.
<0> merlyn: if someone asks for a book recommendation, then it is a good option.
<3> maybe someone at TPF should be notified
<5> well the online book is quite short and concise
<5> merlyn: indeed, i was asking the wrong question, just read the SOAP POD :)
<5> SOAP::Lite is what I need
<3> for some meaning of "need" :)
<5> yes
<3> most likely the painful one. :)
<0> merlyn: the Perl NOC people have their own problems. Including many hardware failures.
<5> oh, btw, if you had to implement something and had the freedom to choose, what would you choose? XML-RPC? REST?
<3> well - they're in SoCal - which has had its own share of issues
<0> merlyn: and perl.org still links to learn.perl.org instead of perl-begin.berlios.de
<7> rindolf: IMO, perldoc is enough, if someone ever learnt the basics in perl. :-P
<3> perl.org *should* link to learn.perl.org
<3> learn.perl.org *should* be fixed
<0> merlyn: I submitted a patch for having a http://www.perl.org/learn/. However, it's not probably out of date, and they also pulled the svn source from the public.
<0> merlyn: I am willing to fix it in my spare time.
<0> merlyn: but first I need access to its source code.
<0> merlyn: which I don't have.
<0> merlyn: and the beginners-workers mailng list is closed for subscribers.
<0> merlyn: but I agree with you that l.p.o should be fixed.
<3> Yeah... ****s that things **** sometimes. :)
<0> merlyn: note that the perl-begin (and perlmeme) source is in a public version control repository so you can add stuff to it too if you want.
<0> merlyn: one patch and I'm giving you a commit access to apply it.
<8> /win/win 17
<0> merlyn: but naturally I trust you enough to give you a commit access unconditionally.
<0> merlyn: yes. :-(
<9> what is the best xml parser module? :)
<10> XML::LibXML!
<0> __Ace__: XML::LibXML.
<0> X:LX is the ****!
<0> But it has a lot of bugs, which are now in the process of being fixed.
<0> Its current maintainer disappeared.
<9> so.. I shoudnt use it then?
<2> ugh
<2> is it really impossible to make a Tk::NoteBook fill the whole screen?>_<
<2> mm
<2> the thing fills the whole screen if I fill the textvariable with 1000 spaces
<11> how can I make this match anything ? /$str/ when $str = ".*" ?
<12> pretty easy in Gtk2 :P
<13> wx 4eva
<9> em
<4> quotemeta
<9> that module is for using Gnome libxml2 lib?
<4> /\Q$string/
<11> \Q ?
<9> rindolf
<11> oh great
<11> thanks
<9> \Q = quote
<2> hmm i don't think textvariable is working
<2> I don't think NoteBook is what i need >:(
<12> \Q is looks exactly like the wrong thing to use and /.*/ is pointless
<2> uh
<2> th looks like nothign
<13> which is a good module for writing tests?
<2> Tk::DynaTabFrame
<13> the one which comes with perl
<2> Test::More ?
<13> ?
<2> pkrumins, Test::More
<13> ok
<14> How do I do a find/replace inside a whole directory?
<14> ****.. wrong channel
<3> are you not using Perl?
<3> pkrumins - see Test::Tutorial
<3> part of Test::More distro
<13> okay reading it
<13> is Test::Harness an older version?
<15> Anyone know of a good tutorial/howto/guide on using/installing perl modules? Im just starting out with perl and every example perl script i come across uses these extra modules..?
<16> perl -MCPAN -e 'install Module::Name'
<17> mindbob: if on linux, use your distros tools, otherwise use cpan
<15> cool
<3> mindbob - "intermediate Perl"
<3> but that's a book, not something online
<15> by whom?
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