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<0> interesting...
<1> ispy_: similarly Islam means a whole devotion to God.
<1> an entire.
<0> ahh
<1> ispy_: s and sh are the same letter in Hebrew.
<2> Goddamn muslims.
<0> rindolf, so hey i was meaning to ask you... is your nations media making a big deal about the recent attack against lebanon, and those 60+ civilians being killed?
<1> ispy_: well we also have a letter for "s", but it might have sounded a bit differently in Ancient Hebrew.
<1> ispy_: they report it.
<0> rindolf, yes i've always found your language to be interesting :)
<1> ispy_: and some Israeli detest it.
<0> rindolf, but not making a big deal about it?
<1> ispy_: yes.
<0> rindolf, i say **** those pussies...
<1> ispy_: I don't know.
<1> ispy_: I don't watch too much media.
<0> rindolf, you don't fight inside cities and use civilians as cover, and expect israel not to attack the target.
<1> ispy_: I just know that there's a war going on.
<0> rindolf, yeah...
<1> ispy_: indeed.
<1> I'm not a pacifist.
<0> rindolf, just letting you know all of us over here got your countries back.
<1> Of course, Syria and Iran are the real ones to blame.
<0> rindolf, we love israel :)
<1> ispy_: :-)
<0> rindolf, iran is in our grasps, believe me :)
<0> rindolf, the only reason we are even in iraq, is because of iran, many people don't seem to realize this.
<1> ispy_: but actually I blogged about it here: http://shlomif.livejournal.com/10530.html
<1> ispy_: some Israelis and pro-Israelis may find it a bit controversial.
<1> ispy_: yes, but Bush claimed that he needed to attack Iraq because it supported terrorism, which wasn't really true.
<1> ispy_: Iraq was not a threat to worldwide well-being.
<1> As opposed to say, Iran.
<1> We can move to #politics or #perlcafe if people find this talk disturbing.
<0> rindolf, actually that's not true... i'm not a huge fan of bush either, but i will say that i have personally been involved in well over 5 dozen raids that involved terrorist training camps in major iraqi cities.
<3> im looking for some tutorials on how to use perl with command buttons and capturing outputs of UNIX commands, and running unix commands... any suggestions?
<1> ispy_: I see.
<4> KaiHanari: "command buttons" ?
<1> ispy_: I believe you.
<3> HTML, sorry, HTML buttons
<0> rindolf, the thing about iraq is this, it was being used as staging ground for iran and syria terrorist units, also... a special unit was trained here called the Al Kud, that was specifically trained to attack israel.
<1> perlbot: cgi
<5> Common Gateway Interface - http://perldoc.perl.org/CGI.html, http://www.perl.org/CGI_MetaFAQ.html, http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/cgi_course/
<2> ispy_: Yeah, but did those terrist camps exist *before* the invasion?
<1> KaiHanari: read this ^^^
<6> what kind of a trick is sub FETCH { $_[1] } when writing a module for tying?
<0> buu, yes they did.
<4> KaiHanari: you'd want to look into CGI.pm and perldoc -f system, perldoc perlop (the section about qx() )
<7> KaiHanari: Type 'perldoc perlop' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html
<0> buu, there are few if any terrorist camps in iraq at this time.
<1> ispy_: I see.
<0> buu, most are trained outside of iraq.
<0> buu, infact the majority (and i say 90%) of all terrorist activity here in iraq is from outside nations, not local iraqi nationals.
<1> I was told Syria is controlled by the military or something.
<1> That ***ad Jr. character seems like a puppet.
<2> ispy_: Yeah, but I was wondering how much of that terrositic activity existed before we invaded.
<0> rindolf, i tend to agree with you on that.
<1> There's a draft in Syria.
<1> ispy_: I'd like to live and work abroad for a while.
<8> lamech, is your last name jacobs?
<0> buu, one thing people need to realize is this. there are essentially 3 major countries responsible for ALL of the worlds terrorist activities... at it's core. now... by the US forces being in iraq, we essentially concentrate well over 75% of there budget, and have them focus nearly all of there efforts on us here. which is much better than say, another 9/11 bombing or any other activities that they could be involved with.
<3> how do i run a unix command from perl?
<8> KaiHanari, system("commmand") or `command`, depending
<2> ispy_: Certainly a point.
<0> buu, basicly we have shifted all of there focus to a central battlfield.
<6> what is generally referred to by a phrase "syntactic sugar"?
<0> buu, keeping them away from the majority of the worlds population.
<9> is that official policy
<2> ispy_: Maybe..
<0> torbjon, no it's not official policy, if it was you would be hearing it on irc :)
<9> i mean is that just a nice result of the operations or is it a deliberate goal of the american policits
<2> ispy_: I'm not sure that's a very defensible position
<0> torbjorn, i can't speak for dirty politicians... i only speak for men who serve and fight daily... this is what we have seen develop over the past 3 years, and i believe in many respects, it is a positive push forward.
<9> i mean, tying up terrorist forces in combat with soldiers instead of american civilians on american ground sounds like something that would p*** as an ok strategy
<4> pkrumins: it's generally meant to mean shortcut for nicer looking syntax
<6> aha, ok
<4> pkrumins: which is nicer: ${${$ref}{foo}}{bar} or $ref->{foo}{bar} ? :)
<0> torbjorn, like i said... it's just how we see things. or many of us that is, i couldn't possibly speak for everyone.
<6> Botje, 2nd
<9> i understand
<4> that's syntactic sugar for you
<9> just didnt look at it like that before
<10> ispy_: that was not given as a reason for invading Iraq in the first place. At best, it's a happy accident.
<0> buu, bottom line, the terrorist community wants iraq.
<6> good :)
<0> jpeg, i agree... there are however many good reasons for invading iraq that go along with what i'm saying, but i'm not talking about nor do i want to get into many of the bush administrations political reasons.
<2> ispy_: I'm sure they do. But I'm wondering about how much it actually affected such things
<9> ispy_: does it exist statistics showing terrorist activities on american instllatsion world wide has dropped since the iraqi invasion?
<0> jpeg, i can't say i agree with nor understand many of the political views of our administration.
<2> ispy_: Certainly there is more terrorist activity concentrated there, but converesly it also creates more activity.
<9> yes that makes sense
<9> israel possibly redirects some of the heat these days
<0> torbjorn, no... but i'm sure anyone who watches the news will tell you, we've yet to have another 9/11 bombing, and certainly no one else has... plus much of the statistics would be considered cl***ified at this juncture.
<10> ispy_: to me, it makes that rationale suspect. 'fight them there so we don't have to fight them here' doesn't ring true when it's coming from the bush admin. I just don't believe it.
<11> Hi, [ab] in regex mean the char is a or b, if i want to do this with two word? if ($mots[4] =~ word1 or word2 <= how to write this please thanks a lot
<9> ispy_: yes that makes sense
<1> r3m: |
<1> perlbot: re
<5> For regular expressions see perldoc perlretut perlrequick perlreref perlre http://xrl.us/ozni
<7> Type 'perldoc perlretut' in your shell or go to http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html
<3> what module do i have to install to apache to have it execute perl files? and what extension should i then use?
<9> you have to wonder if its all about oil in the end. its not like constant fighting causes oil prices to drop..
<12> ispy_: We went 8 years without a WTC bombing before. We're not overdue yet.
<11> rindol if (bla) || (ble) you mean? i prefer using regex
<9> constant fighting in that area
<13> hmmmmmm balancing trees ...
<13> or they will fall on mimes
<1> r3m: no.
<12> ispy_: so if you want to use that metric, it's a lot like Elephant Repellant.
<1> r3m: if /(?:bla|ble)/
<0> hobbs, true... but i doubt that many of you are aware of many other things they were involved with.
<11> rindolf thanks
<10> if the best we can hope for is containing terrorism to a certain location instead of actually fighting terrorism, then we need a new plan.
<10> it doesn't do anything for the civilians or soldiers in iraq.
<0> hobbs, i know i don't have to tell you there is quite alot of **** that's just not made public.
<1> ispy_: are soldiers allowed to have blogs?
<0> rindolf, no.
<1> ispy_: I see.
<0> rindolf, although i'm sure some do :)
<1> ispy_: OK.
<0> rindolf, this is actually the most i've ever spoken about the war on the internet :)
<1> ispy_: OK.
<1> ispy_: do you read Slashdot?
<0> rindolf, yes
<1> ispy_: or any other tech news site?
<14> jpeg: s/terrorism/communism/ and you have the same arguments made 55 years ago. It's hard (if not impossible) to fight an idea or thought.
<1> ispy_: nice.
<0> i love slashdot
<1> ispy_: I'm subscribed to some of their sections' RSS feeds.
<1> ispy_: do you also post comments there?
<0> same here...
<1> ispy_: not to the main one though.
<0> rindolf, not regularly... most of my posting is reserverd for telnet bbs'
<1> ispy_: I also like use.perl.org.
<10> cannonball: true. makes you wonder why it's so expensive.
<8> ispy_, why aren't you out shooting people or something right now?
<8> ispy_, hey, can you drink alcohol there?
<0> Chris62vw, it's 1am here... i don't go back out for several hours.
<8> oh
<8> good answer :-)
<0> Chris62vw, american military is not allowed to engage in drinking while deployed.
<8> that ****s
<8> like, if you have a day off, can you drink?
<0> Chris62vw, no :)
<10> are other recreational substances present, ispy_?
<8> GAY
<1> ispy_: my OPML file is http://www.shlomifish.org/me/rss-feeds.opml
<0> jpeg, not that i'm aware of...
<1> I guess I'm a duke of OPML.
<8> I wonder how hard it would be to get to smoke a joint there
<0> hahah
<0> Chris62vw, not hard at all.. and i'm sure some do.
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