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<0> I mean, quite a few comments. Well placed.
<0> const MGVTBL* const vtbl = mg->mg_virtual; <-- what? it is const twice?
<1> yes.
<2> woot. not perl related, but of general interest techy. Not only are the Macbook Pro batteries *bad* (e.g. mine stopped holding its charge a month ago)
<1> const pointer to a const MGVTBL
<0> I don't know that in C, it isn't ***igning to two variables is it
<1> whatever that may be
<0> magic virtual table
<2> But - they're also potentially explosive. Mine bubbled up, and destroyed the case it's in, and appears to be leaking acid at this point. Go apple!
<1> high-rez: iBlowUp? :p
<3> must be a Chinese plot to sell more textiles
<2> Botje: Yeah, the followup to which is the iCl***Action product, which should be released in a couple of months.
<1> excellent.
<0> ok, i've been introduced to magic.
<0> that wasn't so tough



<4> "nooneelse" at 200.242.60.132 pasted "/usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install "XML::Parser"'" (664 lines, 39.7K) at http://sial.org/pbot/17504
<0> just 3,000 lines
<5> that returned when i was isntalling the xml-parser
<0> and there is one case: /* FIXME */ default: business in there
<5> but i didnt see any error
<6> high-rez: Colo a box for me =[
<0> expat? Maybe you don't want XML::Parser but XML::SAX and XML::GDOME (or simply XML::DOM)
<6> nooneelse: Expat.xs:12:19: expat.h: No such file or directory
<1> buu: pffsh. that's a warning. it's not important.
<0> you don't have the expat dev package defined
<0> s/defined/installed/
<0> but you want libxml2 anyway, expat is old
<0> and libxml2-dev
<0> (i think)
<6> Botje: Oh good point.
<0> Hmm, now that I have met magic, I am feeling adventurous. Any other paragaphs at the top of perl c files I should read?
<6> jsn: op.c
<5> jsn i've installed the libxml2-dev but still with the samer error
<5> maybe need to install the libxml-sax-expat-perl
<6> nooneelse: Try installing the module that has expat.h
<5> buu how can I check with APT which package have the expat.h ?
<6> apt-file
<0> nooneelse, because libxml2 doesn't help you build XML::Parser, it helps you build XML::SAX
<0> Go to #debian-bots and /msg apt find expat.h
<5> hmm
<0> It is usually a bit slow, but, oh well
<0> Must be 100s of thousands of files, if not millions
<0> expat is not standards compliant. it used to be very good for the job, but is now p***e'
<0> buu: Were you being mean? That's complicated. Any other suggestions?
<0> op.c, I mean.
<0> wow, look at that. although expat 1.x was pretty stable back in 2000, expat2.x came out in january this eyar
<0> if you can get expat2.x, go for it, but I am dubious
<0> expat.sourceforge.net
<5> jsn hmm thanks
<0> the previous release was the 1.x series in july 04
<0> use libxml2
<6> jsn: op.c is for real menz.
<0> oh, and XML::LibXML perl package
<0> buu: I'll make bug fixes to op.c later, for now I want a more gradual introduction
<5> XML::Parser is up to date. :D
<6> jsn: yyperl.y
<0> and yet, it is not compliant
<5> after installed libxml-sax-expat-perl
<0> Does that only exist after a build, buu?
<0> I'm looking at an unbuilt source
<6> jsn: Um. It should exist.. ls *.y
<0> one two many ys to start
<0> perly.y i have
<0> %{ }% is yacc syntax?
<7> HOW IS EVERY1 DOIN'???
<0> i'm doing murderously
<7> awesome!
<7> Intellgunt Desighn.
<7> ah, landoverbaptists++
<0> if (PDL_MAGIC_UNDESTROYABLE) {return 0;} #sorry, Botje
<0> Scientists are to blame for ID.
<1> :(
<0> And, to some degree, for people who believe in aliens.
<0> although ID is much more completely their fault



<7> Aliens exist though...
<7> I saw fox's Aliens undercover.
<8> you gotta give credit to scientists for us not believing that the earth is in the center of everything and that stuff though
<0> um, scientists today?
<0> dead scientists? sure
<0> all hail the dead scientists
<0> newton died for your f=ma
<7> They weren't called scientists then, they were called clergy.
<0> no, the clergy were the guys suppressing them. centuries of threatening and killing those who would take people's minds out from the primitive claptrap they call religion
<7> Ptolemy was right along, andi have proof!
<0> right about hte aliens, or ID?
<0> I'm looking at perly.y, what's the $$ = at the end of most blocks mean?
<0> I am part of a renegade evangelical group that is trying to prove in Federal Court that math and perl are religions, and can not be taught. Math, because no one has ever proved that the axioms we are using are right, or the best set of workable axioms, and therefore it is a matter of faith. Perl because of all the magic.
<7> jsn: pid
<0> EvanCarroll, that's perl, this is yacc
<9> jsn: the $$ is a bison thing
<7> Oh well this is #perl, where we always stay on topic!
<0> EvanCarroll, I'm reading some of the perl source code, perly.y
<0> Reading is too strong a word, looking at.
<9> yacc's beautiful. it's amazing the crap that can be popularised.
<9> apparantly written by a summer student.
<6> jsn: perly.y is yacc syntax. $$ is a variable
<6> Or replaced by a variable or something.
<6> I think it's the return value of the block.
<0> that seems to be the obvious answer
<10> so - looking for some fu: i have an array of indeterminant size, and i want to look through it in groups of 4 appending each of the vaues to a string if defined - i know how to do it the long way, again, looking for fu :)
<7> I think we should rename all unix projects with stupid acronyms.
<1> List::MoreUtils natatime
<10> ah...
<7> We can start with YACC, LAME, WINE, HURD, GNU, PERL, and uh...
<10> but not fu :)
<1> RUBY
<7> yes RUBY.
<10> oh, damn.
<7> think of more stupid open source projects with bad acronyms
<10> jack
<6> shift8: if defined?
<6> shift8: If what is defined?
<1> EvanCarroll: GAIM?
<10> the array value @ current index
<1> KDE? :p
<8> EvanCarroll, how could you forget the GIMP
<4> "nooneelse" at 200.242.60.132 pasted "/usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Image::Info"'" (190 lines, 7.3K) at http://sial.org/pbot/17505
<5> what the hell
<8> i dont think perl and ruby are that bad though
<7> samu: Practical Extraction and Report Language
<10> what is also fun is comming up with new words that fit the acronym. gaim = got another intrusive mess.
<7> come on, perl is never practical.
<7> EVER.
<10> pathologicly eclectic rubish lister
<1> Probably not Even a Real Language
<1> :p
<7> Pathetically Encrypted Retarded Language
<10> heh - good one :)
<0> People for the Ethical Retarded Langauges
<1> People for the Expeditious Retirement of Lisp
<8> maybe pearl would be better
<0> pearl was taken
<11> isn't pearl jam?
<7> hrm. That would be interesting.
<12> how can i continue a regex to the next line?
<7> workspace can validate with some degree of efficiency what is sententece or something right?
<10> jade - i think it's /m
<7> doesn't it have some sort of relational algo that checks for verbs and nouns in relation
<0> jade, /x lets you put in arbitrary whitespace
<4> "nooneelse" at 200.242.60.132 pasted "/usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Template"'" (99 lines, 3.1K) at http://sial.org/pbot/17506
<7> need to run /usr/share/dict against it
<7> new fun perl acros


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