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<0> damn :)
<1> "to make us feel part of the college [and encourage us to come back and give lots of money when you're rich]"
<1> s/us/[us]/
<0> ah, alumni party?
<1> not yet
<0> what's your major?
<1> but it's the master's job to point out that you'll still be a senior member later on even if you fail your degree, and thus still eligable to give them lots of money...
<1> x86: Maths!
<2> we don't have maths here
<2> only the one math
<2> sad, really
<0> integral: (2*2) == (2+2) == (2^2)
<0> integral: 99% of stats are made up :P
<2> x86: sqrt(1/2) == 1/sqrt(2) == sqrt(2)/2
<1> ah, but how confident of that are you? :-P
<0> hobbs: stop that now... my head hurts!
<0> :P
<0> integral: 99% :P
<2> statistics is actually reasonably cool. But I'd rather learn enough to know how to get the answers out of a computer than actually "learn statistics" :)
<3> still have to learn stats to use SAS, S-Plus, etc
<3> just as you still have to learn to program to use Perl =)
<3> computers just make it easier to apply what you know...
<2> scrottie: I understand that, but what I mean is it's not the same depth of knowledge. I have to know what things mean, but not necessarily how to work out all the numbers for myself :)
<3> "working out numbers" is the easy part, unless you mean doing it on a large scale.
<2> which lets me get on to the interesting bit, which is whatever I'm doing with those numbers :)
<2> aka World Domination
<3> I can't even get hired by an evil company bent on world domination
<3> I'm not even wanted as a minion =(
<2> me either. I work on world domination in my spare time
<2> Of which I have plenty due to lack of employment ;)
<2> haha. ascii O RLY owl.
<4> spare time?
<5> hi to all
<6> i need a tutorial on using fork() in perl
<7> are there enumerations in perl?
<6> or perhaps a lot of examples
<8> perldoc -q fork
<9> kvla: just search for a fork() tutorial. perl treats it the same way as the syscall
<8> hmmm... not as comprehensive as i thought
<9> no, it only goes over the basics
<6> i looked at the perldoc and faq. i have no experience with fork() on the system level eaither
<9> kvla: you might also give perldoc perlipc a look
<5> I am having a taint problem on a string that is used by dbi prepare
<5> just I don't understand why is tanted
<6> all: thanks
<5> is that: UPDATE counters SET numcount = 283436 WHERE ID = 81
<5> any hunts?
<5> hints, sorry?
<8> I've never hunted, no.
<9> boerst: not really
<8> I figure enough deer get hit by cars.
<7> pravus: kk
<9> boerst: are you just looking for symbolic constants? or some sort of value validation?
<7> pravus: symbolic constants... guess ill use plain scalars
<9> boerst: in that case, 'use const' may help
<7> pravus: kk thx
<9> boerst: use constant SYMBOL => value;
<9> boerst: or, as some perl people like: sub SYMBOL () { value; }
<9> which, fmu, is what 'use constant' does behind the scenes
<7> just read that in prgoramming perl :) thx
<10> My ISP has a web page giving usage statistics. I would like to write a simple perl script to login to this page and give me the statistics. I know perl is very good for the purpose but I've never done such a thing. Can you give me some directions for manuals, examples, etc? I'll appreciate anything to start with.
<9> tralala: look at LWP (lib www perl)
<10> pravus: on my way, thanks a lot!
<11> pravus: WWW::Mechanize
<11> err
<11> tralala: WWW::Mechianize
<11> grr
<11> WWW::Mechanize
<9> i've never used that one... does it do some of the same stuff as lwp?
<10> Yaakov: thank you too
<11> pravus: It is designed to do exactly what he wants, take a look.
<12> ughmorning.
<9> japhy: murgoo
<12> I don't remember a thing about the state of the union address.
<11> OK, I am sick at home today BUT, I have two work tasks to complete anyway. One is making svn go, the other (and more important) is writing a program to harvest all the email addresses from an mbox file.
<9> i don't either. of course, i didn't watch it, so...
<12> well then, that doesn't count.
<9> Yaakov: i would think both should be fairly easy
<11> The second is the easier, I think. The svn book is 299 pages, and while I won't have to read all of it, I am going to have to learn more than just the quickstart piece.
<11> In any case, it is lower priority, so I really need to work on the other.
<9> Yaakov: have you ever used version management before?
<11> By the way, Komodo 3.5 is looking rather nicish, and with a solid OS X version.
<11> pravus: Using it isn't the issue, configuring the server is.
<11> I have to decide on a lot of things that really should be done from experience, which I don't have.
<9> Yaakov: well, i haven't used svn, but i would think it should be fairly easy
<11> I just want to avoid building something I want to tear down and do over (as much as possible.)
<9> ahh yes, i know what you mean
<5> why a string is considered tainted? there is something I could read about ?
<12> perldoc perlsec
<12> there are many ways data can be "tainted". outside data is pretty much ALWAYS tainted.
<11> Scalar::Util::tainted() is nice.
<13> Hi, I have a script here which claims to need DBI, how do I get hold of this and how can I install it?
<1> it would be interesting to have tainting enabled by default for perl6
<12> bubblenut: it'll need DBI and DBD::somethingorother
<1> of course, totally useless since no one's going to actually *use* perl6 *sigh*
<12> bubblenut: both of which can be downloaded from search.cpan.org
<12> integral: it'll make a great doorstop
<1> Yes, in the same way as a teflon coated wedge.
<12> "Here we have a serious problem: America is addicted to oil, which is often imported from unstable parts of the world. My solution is to stabilize all these parts of the world, making them US territories."
<1> hence why they'll be invading canada any day now...
<14> In Soviet Russia, operating systems operate you!
<15> GumbyBRAIN, Soviet Russia
<16> ParityBit: Better than russia.
<14> GumbyBRAIN: nuns!
<16> BinGOs: Http://fedde.littleton.co.us/screenshot.png is what instantiates is as dry a nuns cunt, cant be arsed with) in last week of july.
<1> o_O
<1> broken link!
<14> made up link i think.
<1> ah.
<14> i've noticed that (s)he has started to construct random URIs
<14> GumbyBRAIN: Imperial States of America?
<16> BinGOs: And hey, how 'bout that nsa whistleblower....jesus, only in america can go wrong when they name their hmp library hemp, because it wasn't sending events to those pages in the states.
<14> erm righty.
<9> i don't see how anyone develops in a servlet environment
<1> hrm, I still don't like catalyst
<14> people do.
<14> heh that's a catalyst for a heated debate!
<1> like why stick a scripts directory in everything?! if there's a bug in a standard script there's no single place to patch it!
<9> i'm editing a jsp that spits out javascript, so i have to delete the cached .java and .cl*** files and then bounce the server to see the changes :P
<14> GumbyBRAIN: in soviet russia ?
<16> BinGOs: Gumbybrain, soviet russia.
<1> hmm, some parts of catalyst smell faintly of POE I suppose
<14> but taste like chicken ?
<1> No, seagull. Really, really horrible
<14> albatross!
<14> heh if you are coming to YAPC::EU you can punch me in person >:)
<1> yay!
<14> i'm sure there will be a queue, so book early :p
<1> although sherriff is top of my hate list atm
<17> Is there a strict rule about off-topic questions here?
<14> o.O
<1> hazard: there's a topic?
<1> sheriff then.
<14> dare i ask why, integral ?
<1> calling me a "****wit" in the secret #perl.
<17> Ok then. I know that some of you are admins, and I'm having a hard time finding what the criteria is that defines the necessity for SOX compliance.
<14> oh.
<1> I think it's a very good reason to hate him :)
<14> haha
<1> hazard: sox(1)?
<18> heh
<17> Sarbanes Oxley.
<1> no, sox is an audio munging tool. Rather handy it is too
<14> never heard of it.
<17> sox is, but SOX is not.
<14> that some sort of Yank bollocks ?
<1> you can get your perl to just spit out raw audio data, then pipe it through sox which can write headers and stuff
<9> hazard: bleah. ask a lawyer.
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